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Hopefully Enhance doesnt get a dmg nerf.
@holinka Can you please put my mind to rest, you know about Ele and Enhance one shotting? and please add that you are fixing it soon.
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@kalka9 Yes we know about it and yes we will address it. We are in the process of tuning damage. It is possible it will get a PvP only nerf.
Well I havent heard much from Ele and their damage so i can only assume its going to be an Enhance nerf.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fat Tire
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxS2jvBlsNA
I hope they nerf ret/feral/warrior burst too, I dont mind a 20% stormblast nerf I can oneshot with 3 shamans too, the fourth is just in case the target got any defensive stuff up, like shaman lightning shield glyph+ natures guardian sometimes prevents an overkill from all 4, thats why I hate ele atm and hope that spec gets nerfed because I feel like I have to oneshot the ele every game even if mage/healers would be easier to oneshot, although that changes with 5.4 chainheal spam + rushing streams > chainlight spam
also spriest/boomkin and locks (I doubt anyone will glyph unending resolve) lose their 15/10% damage reduction and get armor instead
after all it would have to be something like a 25-30% nerf on stormblast to really deny a oneshot, other than that with every bursty class getting nerfed there is still the possibilty to turtel the first cc wave out and set up an instant eb+stormblast kill
I see this more like a win/win situation with all the stuff we get in 5.4 it looks damn great and if they nerf ascendance/stormblast heavily then there has to be a dps buff because like holinka said, the nerf shouldn't affect pve so they cant really do anything big without buffing something else, as it is now 4x stormstrike 4x lava lash (5 stacks) eats about 50% hp of non plate, I've already forced painsup with my first ss/ll combo in the game because they thought I'd oneshot now, which is ofc possible when I ss/ll and they dont use cooldowns I could immediately blow ascendance and finish it
ele is more retarded because lava surge random instant lava burst proccs have the potential to end the game anytime not just every 3 minutes with ascendanceQuote:
Originally Posted by djensen2010
and just regarding that video if the shaman is lining up every cooldown like double dancing steel trinket procc+on use trinekt buff food with unleash flame then hardcast eb with stormblast afterwards ... not like any class could do this with that much stuff up on an empty target, no buff food in arena and no one plays with double dps trinkets (jk humans - no shamans) so unlikely that happens in arena
worst case 10% stormblast nerf I'd say
I'd prefer 1 stormblast per ascendance and cooldown reduced to 2 minutes ;)
meh that enhance damage you totally see it incoming, not that it doesnt deserve a nerf.
I dont think we will see a nerf for enhancement. I believe only elemental will see the nerfs since they have already made plans to nerf ele 4p set bonus and fulm.
- Discipline
- Grace can no longer be dispelled.
- Class Armor
- Discipline/Holy PvP 2-piece set bonus' (4-piece set bonus pre-Season 12) Holy Spark effect can no longer be dispelled.
cant believe they're still buffing disc, anyway gives me more reason now to oneshot them instead of another healer
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Originally Posted by Fat Tire
thats really funny holinka still believing the ele damage everyone complains about is fulmination and not the 350k lava burst potential, they should change echo in the way it works for ele like 6%% chance on duplicating lb/cl and hardcast lava burst not the instant ones and add an icd so it cant trigger twice with overload
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=W1h7STQhuqc
so guys its getting closer and closer
"It appears we are getting close to the part of the PTR cycle when major changes are done and it is time for balancing the numbers!"
if enhancement doesnt lose too much damage compared to others and our stormblast doesnt lose more than ~30% then it looks good, if we can still oneshot after the number tuning and we keep all the utility then we can aim for glad next season with that comp, with the merge of all pools and rbg title system we're gonna have many spots
#edit :Holinka @holinka 18m .@HydraMWIst Testing on the PTR has demonstrated that PvP damage/healing is too high. We will be tuning Base Resilience and Battle Fatigue.
everything looks good so far, a nerf for everyone and they might overlook stormblast :), an increase to 75% base resil would still allow us to oneshot people, I'm hoping for 70%+trinket bonus somewhere around 73% resilience would be fine
- Matheus F Santos @MatheusFSantoz 41m
@holinka @HydraMWIst instead of nerfing the classes you guys just add a easier fix that may broke the game even more for some classes cool
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- https://si0.twimg.com/profile_images...b14_normal.png Holinka @holinka 10m
@MatheusFSantoz @HydraMWIst The situation exists for so many classes, it is a global problem, not a specific class/spec.
sounds good so far :))
Holinka @holinka3h
.@KymScally We'll be increasing base resilience to 72% and battle fatigue to 55%. We'll test and decide whether to re-tune.
with 72% you'd have to do at least 300k oneshot per toon on a dummy and the minimum you do is about 340k where a lucky oneshot with lets say stormblast mh crit and windfury/lightning shield procc does ~ 600k, the numbers have a very big range stormblast does sometimes 140k sometimes 180k stormlash 5-20k lot of rng included but I've never done less than 300k in more than 20 attempts
I do also have 25% crit in the new gear because they changed the trinket with mastery to stamina so I'm using the crit trinket and reforged it to mastery, so with 25% crit we shouldnt count stormblast crits out like I'm doing now with barely 19,5%
what a great day for 5s today, first only 2k melee teams where I went 4-5 and now 20 min in queue no pop :<
ended up 9-7 2105 now mage unholy dk shadow is so much freewin :)