Does anyone else see Cataclysm as The End?

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Originally Posted by mrmcgee21

BC heroics got progressively nerfed throughout the xpac, and the people who ran 5 shamans through them were in full epic pvp gear ( that was way over budgeted for the content ). If you did the original BC heroics you would definitely not say they were easier than LK ones, yes after they nerfed the shit out of them and started handing out epics like candy people facerolled them just like in LK. I'm sure you can 5 shaman LK heroics now as well due to epics being much more available.

The difference is, LK heroics were never a challenge right from the start. Bc heroics got turned into what Lk heroics are, which I guess is just their general 5 man content design now which really makes me sad, the only challenging content in the game now are 10-25 man hard mode raids and high end pvp. I love running 5 man dungeons but when they are this easy ( even on "hard mode" ) its really disappointing and gets boring much faster.

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Agreed. I actually remember comparing the orignal BC Heroics to "5 man raiding" as you had to have a plan to the pulls, not just run through them blindly w/o thinking about it. But by the middle of BC's exsistence that changed pretty drastically.

LK Heroics were tough after it released. I recall many frustrating attempts before my guys got good enough gear to do them easy. They have been nerfed over the time LK has been out. And yes BC heroics were easy even at the start because you could get the PVP gear like you said and breeze through them. The pvp gear was so good you really didnt need any drops from the BC heroics. The only reason I had to plan pulls in BC was becauses I used 5 shaman and didnt have a tank.

God I loved doing MT with 5 shamans. I was inspired by Vndyree(I think) making that amazing video.