It's kinda hard to hide that I'm a boxer....
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It's kinda hard to hide that I'm a boxer....
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I only have 4 of my...uh....16? accounts active atm, but mine looks pretty similar.
all of my chars have differente names and they are totally unrelatead apart from the fact they are all in the same corp, however i think its pretty obvious to reacognise im a boxer XD
when i lived in a wormhole (solo) for a couple of months, i would always announce to the people i would have a fight with that i was a boxer and i asked them, because of that, to not overkill on numbers/ship types, and surprisingly most of the times people would do just that and give me the same respect they would give to any other group of people.
when it comes to hs i cant also complain, i dont openly announce im a boxer for obvious reasons, but if someone finds it out (wich is not that hard) they would be, in general, decently respectfull.
There was some news about character changes in Eve so we'll see how that goes, but it's been hit with some negative feedback from the reddit warriors
A few things...
@Mike
Your setup is amazing. I love the VG fleet for being able to use the watchlist on your logistics pilots. It certainly is less clicking than watching HUDs and broadcasting, then locking people up. For the 20 man Incursions I'm not sure what the optimal setup would be; you're limited by the drone assignment hard cap, so there's definitely pressure to use Geckos. Unfortunately, a lot of the rats will orbit at 70k.
@All
I'm almost certain I was banned because I was moving too fast for their liking. All of my characters were one-up named, so I was reported all the time. I read or listened to a podcast that the GMs weren't/don't even look at the logs. They just inspect what you're doing. I may be wrong, but... Shrug. In any case, I wouldn't do the round-robin missile activation again if I were to start over.
Yeah the naming system you used certainly played a role in the amount of reports sent in about you. I imagine that alone was enough to annoy the GMs. The posting of your video in the official thread is probably what sealed the deal. THe mouse thing combined with the effective usage of click through.
I'm still running this setup basically. The key difference is that my nestors are down to 5 reps now so I have the same number of reps per nestor in Sansha incursions as I do when I'm doing Drifter incursions.
http://i.imgur.com/UVweoDg.jpg
My goal is to avoid annoying the GMs basically.
I've started the process of figuring out how I want my drifter incursion setup to look. The prior setup I've been using on the test server is highly inefficient compared to my sansha incursion setup.
@thedevilyouknow
Yeah your right with the round robin thing. Also it really sucks with the character names, all that skill time, its a shame. On the other hand, if you have free slots, training up new chars can be done in 20 days.
I used my old setup with all the same-name chars to make some isk, to then use that for the new chars. If you just do it for one or two sessions, it shouldnt draw any attention.
I m sorry to hear about your petition. Stay tenacious would be my 2 centst. But then again, I dont have mutch expirience with CCP and petitions.
@mosg
Thanks man, I had a great teacher! You taught me everything I know. I'm still copying parts of your setup ;) I really miss the old times, but its good to see you're still around!
@ToS
I still think your setup is the safest way to go, in terms of risk with grey areas. So for ppl feeling unsure, start with a smilar setup and let time tell whats allowed and/or tolerated.
My current Rattlesnake setup does 10-8min ticks at the moment, not surprising considering the low skill level. Here is a screenshot of my new setup:
http://i.imgur.com/ySi2uan.jpg
What I love the most about multiboxing, is making the setups and optimizing it. Without dxnothing, videoFX and clickbars to complicate things ;), I would loose interest very fast. So without ISBoxer, I woulndt have started up again.
The thing is, I don't want to play as though i should hide, the issue is when the mass spam of reports and general hate drives CCP to ban anyways.
Why should i create new characters just for the presumption of innocence, fuck em
That screenshot makes me moist though, well done
exactly that...Quote:
Originally Posted by thedevilyouknow
one of the reasons i dont use isboxer is for fear of being banned because i would activate stuff too fast and ccp would think im using broadcasting, wich is a shame because i loved playing with and optimizing dxnothing :s
like...99 % of the game is played using 1 tiny part of the game window, shortcuts and right click, is it really that surprising when min - max'ers min/max the shit out of the UI
It's hilarious the amount of other parts of the game CCP has no problem with people min/maxing, but the instant we come along, suddenly it's a big deal.Quote:
Originally Posted by thedevilyouknow
Yeah that is at least half the enjoyment I get out of playing eve these days. The challenge of getting stuff setup, optimized and adapted is fun.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike Lonestarr
Dig your screenshot :P
I had my credit card company rescind the last charges for my 20 accounts when I got suspended, as they waited to suspend me until 1 day after I payed for them. So, obviously, they banned all the accounts.
I would consider coming back, but I was running 20-man incursions and I'm not sure how effectively you could do that using the watch list instead of broadcast locking for reps. Does anyone have ideas for this? Is the watch list 10 or 15 or more now?
I'm positive that just using a DxNothing window for VFX with absolutely no broadcasting would be the easiest setup and would be completely safe.
Wahahahowwwwwwwwwww that is just bullshitQuote:
Originally Posted by Mosg2
Watch list would not have enough slots to add in everyone for your 20 man team, i believe its under 15
Why don't you use broadcast for reps and VFX for logistics?
http://i.imgur.com/it4aMsm.png
here's what my mining VFX looks like for anyone who's curious.
Made a mock-up of my setup for HQs and fleets for broadcasting for armor / shields. Note: Names are not important, I found the image through 5 seconds of google.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mosg2
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Only problem: Gotta click the 3 bars and do "Clear Broadcast Icons" every so often. Other than that, it was a sexy setup.
Dude stop, my droolQuote:
Originally Posted by EaTCarbS
Are those ventures???
My partially complete dxnothing window has the videofx windows for the broadcast buttons (click through) below the related videofx of the capacitor/shield/armor/structure thing. So I can just broadcast for reps as normal. My dxnothing window is like half my main screen though as a result of all the stuff (including full view of all the targets on the logi.
lol yea, but the layout works for any mining ship. I was doing ventures for bait/funziesQuote:
Originally Posted by thedevilyouknow
Wish there was a "like" button.Quote:
Originally Posted by EaTCarbS
Cool Setup! Thanks for posting. Getting to that type of setup would be something to aspire to for me and my mini fleet. Considering I just started, me and my 5 ventures are rocking Hi Sec; or should I say breaking rocks in Hi Sec! :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by EaTCarbS
I'll update you guys on wormholes/c5 stuff. You can contact me in game: Krops Vont
Working on trying to figure out how to record though while my cpu is clocked at 83*c on my main computer...
Ouch. :p What kinda heatsink setup you have installed? You can get fully self-contained water-cooling setups at the PC stores for <$50 these days.Quote:
Originally Posted by Krops
I'll have to consider that but atm I'm more concerned at upgrading. Tech is all from 2009-10. My laptop has a gts 360m and desktop a 9800 gt. Life kicked me around a bit so once I'm back at work I hope to get it in two or three months.
Heatsink is like 2 front fans lol
AAR of 1/18-1/19 Raven fleet
Ran a grand total of 3 sites.
Fit:(replace civi miner with civi railgun)Quote:
[Raven, AutoRaven]
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Damage Control II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
EM Ward Field II
Missile Guidance Computer II, Missile Precision Script
Missile Guidance Computer II, Missile Precision Script
Missile Guidance Computer II, Missile Precision Script
Missile Guidance Computer II, Missile Range Script
'Arbalest' Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher I
'Arbalest' Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher I
'Arbalest' Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher I
'Arbalest' Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher I
'Arbalest' Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher I
'Arbalest' Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher I
Civilian Miner
Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I
Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I
Large Core Defense Field Extender I
Hammerhead II x5
"Painter" Raven had 4 paints instead of MGC. Need to swap one for a sebo, and another for a TS web.
All in all I am pleased with my results, even with my slow site times and initial warpout and Basi loss.
SOME THINGS TO NOTE:
You need to "prime" your autos, i.e. deal damage or receive damage (or ewar) with something on your ship (hence the civi blaster) before the missiles will work.
BOOSTS. You need em. Most important: The cycle time.
Work on your kill order.
Im drunk. Ask questions, and I'll answer when I'm more sober. This was just a quick AAR.
I have more content on this thread than in game atm ;)
Anyone have any idea how much the DPS fluctuates between the incursion vanguard sites across the waves assuming you don't shoot them at all? (Full spawn)
First wave of NCO, NMC and OTA can be tanked with around 2000DPS tank according to EFT, probably less as i tested this on SISI on 0 influence.
Anyone know whether the DPS from the waves increases across the waves?
I know the spawns have random numbers but within a rough guess? Anyone, Plz halp
I do know the highest DPS from an NCO comes when that Sansha Nation Commander spawns. He's basically an Elite Tama.
The Deltoles are the biggest threat in the OTAs thanks to their neuts.
Haven't done an NMC in ages. Someone else can talk about that.
Can your tank last with just 6 nestor'd reps?
E: Or specifically, could 7 Large remote reps unbonused* be enough repping power to last all the sites? According to EFT (wew) with the current fits I'm tossing up, adds up to 2118 armor EHP/s (depending on the fit)
E2: Okay Basically, i want to run this thing as a single logi pilot, thoughts?
[Paladin, Cheaper]
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Centus X-Type Large Armor Repairer
Capacitor Power Relay II
Capacitor Power Relay II
Capacitor Power Relay II
Capacitor Power Relay II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Large Remote Armor Repairer II
Large Remote Armor Repairer II
Large Remote Armor Repairer II
Large Remote Armor Repairer II
Large Remote Armor Repairer II
Large Remote Armor Repairer II
Large Remote Armor Repairer II
Bastion Module I
Large Remote Repair Augmentor II
Large Capacitor Control Circuit II
Hobgoblin II x5
Cap stable, 7 unbonused large reps, thoughts?
I once tried to run with 2 cruiser armor logis, and in resume, it went badly. I dont know if i just did something wrong or if the tank is simply not enough, i just know that if i hadnt warped out at the time i did i would have lost a lot more domisQuote:
Originally Posted by thedevilyouknow
When looking at ToS's videos he can run some sites with 3 to max 5 reps, on the fits his domis use that is 2.5k HP/s, on the fits i plan to use the reps on, its close to 2.3k HP/s and i know the minimum tank needed to tank the first room is 1.9k HP/s
What were the fits you used on your domis when you had trouble?
I run almost every site with 1-3 reps. The only time I need to use more reps is when I am late at repping or the influence is +40%. It seems that the NPCs "overheat" if their target gets below a certain point as incoming dps will dramatically rise (you can see it on the eve combat log parser).Quote:
Originally Posted by thedevilyouknow
[Dominix, Vanguards]
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
1600mm Steel Plates II
Damage Control II
Omnidirectional Tracking Link II, Tracking Speed Script
Omnidirectional Tracking Link II, Tracking Speed Script
Omnidirectional Tracking Link II, Tracking Speed Script
Omnidirectional Tracking Link II, Tracking Speed Script
Omnidirectional Tracking Link II, Optimal Range Script
Mega Pulse Laser II, Gamma L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Gamma L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Gamma L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Gamma L
Drone Link Augmentor II
[empty high slot]
Large Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II
Large Trimark Armor Pump I
Large Trimark Armor Pump I
Garde II x5
Much thanks ToS, i'm convinced the paladin will work now
I just took a browse through the last 6 months of running to see what kind of incoming dps I saw. I saw up to around 1k post resist incoming dps. Now the issue with figuring out the raw incoming dps is that I run a tank that is biased to em/therm/kin with no regard for exp. I also target and kill the sansha commander as a primary and the tamas as secondary after Niarjas. I also run the evasive maneuvers link to shrink sig size to further reduce the damage from kin/exp torps. So the vast majority of the incoming damage is from the laser em/therm NPCs.Quote:
Originally Posted by thedevilyouknow
So I'd gather that raw dps wise I'm taking about 1700 or so while actively popping stuff. I start popping NPCs from the get go with the NM helped by the primary ddd till I get drones assigned (the primary DDD is ready to start killing tamas with just two domis assigned).
So I'm guessing worse case scenario would be about 3k raw DPS assuming you don't kill anything and have similar resist/sig as my setup.
At the moment my issue is that the only tank testing i have done is all within the first room (just chucked a vargur in there and gradually lowered the tank to see the low end number without killing anything)
Now obviously as i pop npcs off field the dps lowers, but i just wanted to know how much of a "retarded moment" safety net i would have before it all goes horribly wrong :3
Well if you want we can go onto sisi and run dps tests there.Quote:
Originally Posted by thedevilyouknow
25 days till paladin tho
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Originally Posted by Tool of Society
my fits were pretty much this, just some changes in rigs.
the only reason i can think for it going so badly is that i didnt have sig radius link, since i run with on grid boosting, wich would prob make a big difference lol
Ah i see, i run sig radius links as a given,
I ran without that link for a while back when I was testing to see how few links I could run with.Quote:
Originally Posted by thedevilyouknow
It can get a bit hectic when you first start running a fleet. Before things become muscle memory your reactions will be much slower. Two cruisers could be problematic in such a scenario.