Follow In Battlegrounds Broken After 5.2

Someone have the link to this post please ?
http://tof.canardpc.com/view/fd15195...13c4e261a2.jpg

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Originally Posted by Baltyre

Someone have the link to this post please ?
http://tof.canardpc.com/view/fd15195...13c4e261a2.jpg

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That's a support ticket from blahbalah's account, not a forum post.

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Originally Posted by Koralon

Eh im still going to queue for BGs, infact i think as a protest we should all queue for BGs and just dance and run around doing nothing, then they'll see just how bad of an experience it can be.

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I'm still gonna q up for WSG with 10 - why> because i can stand in flag room and kill few people- if i get killed i res next to GY and guess whats gonna happen? they gonna try to farm me, but really- im gonna kill few until the cap the flag, it happened many times before, thinking they can farm me.down that easy:) also I'm going to q up for RBG's maybe other team wont q up.

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Originally Posted by sethlan

I'm still gonna q up for WSG with 10 - why> because i can stand in flag room and kill few people- if i get killed i res next to GY and guess whats gonna happen? they gonna try to farm me, but really- im gonna kill few until the cap the flag, it happened many times before, thinking they can farm me.down that easy:) also I'm going to q up for RBG's maybe other team wont q up.

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lol, maybe you can sit there and go afk give the team a easy win a good 2min game for you and them and you still get free honor! If blizzard ask's why you tell them what else can I do if I dont have /follow.

Also there were tons of complain against the person who is running a 40 man team and pretty much destroying world pvp and AV. 2 hours long av will piss alot of people especially if they loose. I am pretty sure it was brought to blizzards attention.

Just give back follow in arena ffs.

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Originally Posted by livetolift

Also there were tons of complain against the person who is running a 40 man team and pretty much destroying world pvp and AV. 2 hours long av will piss alot of people especially if they loose. I am pretty sure it was brought to blizzards attention.

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Both Horde and Alliance were doing premade AVs that long with the intention of farming the opposing team. Rath strat and QQ premades... argument is void sry

I just tested this today and you can still get honor if your team is good. Granted you will be doing nothing but sitting on a flag, it still gets you way more honor than smaller bg's. The other 40 man may be as good too. You can just sit like a noob. If Blizzard wants to make us handicapped noobs in bg's I say do it.

Read This: http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/6877447873

How to move as one again.

Tackling these out of order...

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Originally Posted by Mickthathick

As someone above posted, the first time they ran into a multi-boxer they didn't cry but instead were intriqued about what they were doing and researched what was going on.

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Okay? But for every single person that's intrigued by a multiboxer or becomes curious about multiboxing, there are 50 others that think we cheat, bot, hack, or play the way that we do for some sort of unfair advantage.

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Originally Posted by Mickthathick

and isn't the reason why this occurred.

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Never once did I ever say it was the reason that this decision was made. I would appreciate it if you didn't put words into my mouth (post).

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Originally Posted by Mickthathick

I would argue that ever point you raised in your post can easily be applied to every other non-multi box player in WoW

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Of course it can, but which one of the following statements makes more sense:

1) "I hate single players, they're all cheaters and botters who are afraid to fight 1v1!"
2) "I hate multiboxers, they're all cheaters and botters who are afraid to fight 1v1!"

I'm not going to argue this again and again and again, so let's go back in time and look at a piece of d-b history. Here's some excerpts from a thread from July 2012:

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Originally Posted by MiRai

When someone rages on five players, they're raging on five players. When someone rages on someone else who is multiboxing, they're raging about a multiboxer. Also, if those five individual players come from the same guild, then that guild is now labeled, no?

How are these the same?

Let's break this down visually (as best I can with text).

Example 1

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Five players from different guilds camp one player:

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Warrior (Tom)
Mage (Mike)
Mage (Jerry)
Priest (Mila - My sexy lady)
Druid (George)

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Result:
"What a bunch of douche bags! Why don't they go find something else to do with their time?"

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Example 2

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Five players from the same guild camp one player:

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Warrior (Tom)
Mage (Mike)
Mage (Jerry)
Priest (Mila - My sexy lady)
Druid (George)

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Result:
"F'ing <insert guild name>! They're all just a bunch of douchebags! Why don't they go find something else to do with their time?"

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A guild of 100 people is now labeled by this one person as douchebags because of five individual players' actions.

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A single multiboxer who is multiboxing five characters camps one player:

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Warrior (Tom)
Mage (Tom)
Mage (Tom)
Priest (Tom)
Druid (Tom)

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Result:
"F'ing multiboxers! They're all just a bunch of cheating douchebags! Why doesn't this guy go find something else to do with his time?"

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All multiboxers are now labeled by this one person as douchebags because of one multiboxer's actions.

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Here's another funny post from that same thread:

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Originally Posted by kate

How many people have quit playing WoW because they ran into a multi-boxer?

How many multi-boxers with their multiple accounts would quit playing WoW if they couldn't box in battlegrounds?

People threaten to ragequit all the time because they got beaten in a bg or a duel or whatever, but they never do.

People *do* quit, however, when they are literally unable to play the game the way they want. Boxers who like to run battlegrounds being unable to run battlegrounds anymore would most assuredly quit.

Ergo, making boxing impossible in battlegrounds would cost Blizzard more money than not making it impossible, and Blizzard likes money, so they won't do it unless they're feeling stupid.

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ORLY?

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Originally Posted by BulletLatus

Read This: http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/6877447873

How to move as one again.

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Hasn't this been mentioned multiple times already?

Post 95 in this thread - http://www.dual-boxing.com/threads/4...l=1#post377633
Another thread where it's mentioned - http://www.dual-boxing.com/threads/4...tive-to-follow
Another thread where other alternatives are mentioned - http://www.dual-boxing.com/threads/4...low-in-BGs-etc

Well this whole situation is getting better and better for me;

It appears that preparded has left:

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/to...929775?page=43

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Originally Posted by Khatovar

I couldn't agree with this more. While I can see Mickthathick's PoV, I've also had that rising tension in between my shoulderblades for the past few years as I see more and more people come in with bigger and bigger teams and attitudes of "I'm so gonna rape faces all over the place /spit /cry /chicken /lol"

Is it any different than your regular BG kiddies? Fundamentally, no. But we already have a terrible reputation as far as a lot of people are concerned simply because they don't like multiboxing. Period. In some cases Bots are viewed in a higher regard than we are because at least they make for cheap crap on the AH. And bots aren't going to fall for troll-bait like we do, which combined with some of those bad attitudes makes for a very loud and public squabble. Especially when some people resort to obviously spiteful, vindictive and disruptive actions to "protest" changes they don't like in "The Name Of Multiboxing!!"

We've always treaded a thin line, our increased and/or enduring presence hasn't made that line any bigger. It's just given a bigger target for people to aim at.

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This.

All I feel protesting in a disruptive manner will achieve is Blizz changing the overall multiboxing policy and banning it completely and so the PvE boxing community also loses out. I realize they may take out follow for everyone at a later point but why give blizzard a reason to do it.

Maybe lax is right just joined a few av games and the "bots" that are now stuck at the gates at kinda funny to watch and then the automated software removes them from the game making it be like a 10-14 av game. some don't get suck at a gate but when they run of there route to kill someone they get stuck somewhere.


seems more bots used follow they we was all thinking.

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Originally Posted by crowdx

This.

All I feel protesting in a disruptive manner will achieve is Blizz changing the overall multiboxing policy and banning it completely and so the PvE boxing community also loses out. I realize they may take out follow for everyone at a later point but why give blizzard a reason to do it.

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if they wonted us banned we would of been gone. not at any point they said we will be banned in pvp.

If they said "we do not wan't boxers in Random bg's anymore we have removed /follow and if you get reported for being in the bg we will ban you from the game....."

they just said

"we removed /follow sorry sure u find a way u always do have fun ;)"


as for refunds they have to refund if you do it with 14 days if the goods was not used. same as any shop (for UK laws anyway) even online goods i might go back to 3 boxing with the hunters (as the pets do a lot of the work anyway hehe)

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Originally Posted by Sam DeathWalker

Well this whole situation is getting better and better for me;

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You are part of the problem and not part of the solution.

Edit: Thinking about it again, as long as they bring back follow in arenas I will pretty happy with this change. Hate random bgs anyways.

I didnt attack anyone who didnt attack me first (up to yesterday), and I played my best in BG's, ususally being high on HK's.

Horde lost 9 out of 10 games, no matter if I played or not. And I never took more then 10 slots.

And I never win traded, I never disrupted game play, I never Corpse Camp, and still don't. I have never had an allience toon.

I earned all my in game things. So how so?

And for the past few years I have been very polite posting but how many times should I allow people to call me a cheater before I respond?


AV was my favorite part of the game but I will find world pvp with no problem at the world bosses.



One thing to keep in mind is that although from the forums it would appear that everyone hates multiboxers those threads are only getting views in teh low 1000's. Considering a 6 million actual player base we cannot conclude from 200 or so posters that we are as hated as it appears. Obviously the VAST majority are indefferent.

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Originally Posted by Sam DeathWalker

I played my best in BG's, ususally being high on HK's.

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I forget, which battleground's objective is most HKs?

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Originally Posted by Sam DeathWalker

Well this whole situation is getting better and better for me;

It appears that preparded has left:

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/to...929775?page=43

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And there's the Community spirit that keeps me coming back here :(

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Originally Posted by livetolift

Also there were tons of complain against the person who is running a 40 man team and pretty much destroying world pvp and AV. 2 hours long av will piss alot of people especially if they loose. I am pretty sure it was brought to blizzards attention.

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This could be solved if they allowed follow to work only within the same bnet-account. Then people wouldn't be able to multibox that many accounts. And bots wouldn't be able to follow random people neither.

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Originally Posted by valle2000

This could be solved if they allowed follow to work only within the same bnet-account. Then people wouldn't be able to multibox that many accounts. And bots wouldn't be able to follow random people neither.

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I like that idea. Also if there was a comfirmation box to allow/disallow person to follow you that would also work.

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Originally Posted by valkry

Both Horde and Alliance were doing premade AVs that long with the intention of farming the opposing team. Rath strat and QQ premades... argument is void sry

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I am not talking about wrath era. I am talking about now. Look at prepared....he is basically camping world pvp and his AV bgs were atleast 90 minutes long. The single player base has changed since wrath. Everytime i watch his stream i see 50+ ppl talking about complaining about MB to blizz.

Stop being dicks! When you have 40 accounts and act like a douche to the reg. joe single player you resemble a fat cat conservative oil tycoon standing on a pile of Bambi skulls, smoking a cigar, listening to rush and with small minority slaves chained around you. People don't like that. I would know! I'm a fat conservative in the oil field.

I think whoever said several pages ago that our only hope is the "picking on disabled gamers" line of reasoning has it right. I'm sending out a few feelers now.

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Originally Posted by chivalrous

stop being dicks! When you have 40 accounts and act like a douche to the reg. Joe single player you resemble a fat cat conservative oil tycoon standing on a pile of bambi skulls, smoking a cigar, listening to rush and with small minority slaves chained around you. People don't like that. I would know! I'm a fat conservative in the oil field.

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lmao!

Earlier in the thread I mentioned I had a friend who botted. (Yes, I always disapproved) anyway--he got perma-banned with no warning yesterday. So, perhaps it's helping? Or could have just been his time. He has botted for quite a few years so the /follow may have had something to do with it.

EDIT: nevermind, he was gathering at the time so /follow didn't effect his ban.

How about a "trusted" boxer account :) Like the trusted travelers program at some airports.

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Originally Posted by Chivalrous

Stop being dicks! When you have 40 accounts and act like a douche to the reg. joe single player you resemble a fat cat conservative oil tycoon standing on a pile of Bambi skulls, smoking a cigar, listening to rush and with small minority slaves chained around you. People don't like that. I would know! I'm a fat conservative in the oil field.

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well played sir,
oh and pardon me sir, you wouldnt happen to have any grey poupon would you?
http://youtu.be/mqIZa3PTX6c:cool:

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Originally Posted by Invisahealz

well played sir,
oh and pardon me sir, you wouldnt happen to have any grey poupon would you?
http://youtu.be/mqIZa3PTX6c:cool:

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LOL! I've never seem that. Very good!

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Originally Posted by Sam DeathWalker

I didnt attack anyone who didnt attack me first (up to yesterday), and I played my best in BG's, ususally being high on HK's.

Horde lost 9 out of 10 games, no matter if I played or not. And I never took more then 10 slots.

And I never win traded, I never disrupted game play, I never Corpse Camp, and still don't. I have never had an allience toon.

I earned all my in game things. So how so?

And for the past few years I have been very polite posting but how many times should I allow people to call me a cheater before I respond?


AV was my favorite part of the game but I will find world pvp with no problem at the world bosses.



One thing to keep in mind is that although from the forums it would appear that everyone hates multiboxers those threads are only getting views in teh low 1000's. Considering a 6 million actual player base we cannot conclude from 200 or so posters that we are as hated as it appears. Obviously the VAST majority are indefferent.

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A good 80% of their users are on kr/tw/cn servers and would never be able to view those threads anyway.

I imagine the EU/CN/KR/RS/TW servers all have their own /follow threads going. I saw one post where a guy said there were probably less than 1k multiboxers.... Lol

Well I do my best, ya HK is not the goal but I am doing my best to help my team. The one time in like 30 games our premade showed with guys who had a plan they told me to hold the IWT choke and I did, keeping ally out of both towers (they were not in force just a few guys) and when ally had zero resources we had over 450.

The rest of the games there is absolutly no plan at all. I just follow the crowd, if they go to Galv I go to Galv if they rush, I rush, if they go to base, I go to base. Its a joke.





Anyway I think you all have WAY over reacted by closing accounts. There is not a single evidence that the explanation Blizzard gave for the change and for not annoucing the change is not true. There is nothing unreasonable about their not annoucing it to catch more bots. All this community hystaria that Blizzard is out to eliminate multiboxing from the game seems a bit of a reach, at this point.

Im going to look up how the lawsuit against the bot company is doing back in a sec. Well they are still supporting the bot for wow:

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We're fixing the bot for the 'sneaky patch' that happened earlier

You guys should know by now that it takes us anywhere from 5 mins to 3 days to fix the bot for an update, and then up to a week to recode chunks of it as needed (ie: questing)

QQ less pl0x, it won't help us code faster.

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That was posted today.

There are 474 people viewing the bot forum (unless they lie). There are 40ish here ..........


And one thing with you guys; some complain about the cost of transfering over to a pvp server. If you didnt sign up for a pvp server in the first place then how in the world are you going to quit over something that only effects PvP? And if you are on a pvp server, hang around the world boss's you will find pvp. Or just go towards the oppents capital ...

Its going well for Blizzard on the Lawsuit front, random quote from today on the bot forum:

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A few years i am concerned with lawsuit strategy and i really dont see a successful end here for xxxx
Blizzard will involve you step by step in new arguments till you out of money.
My advice to run is create a new xxx called XZ manufactored in Singapore or anywhere outside of fckn Germany

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I'm having quite a bit of fun at the moment playing my rogue in 5.2. There is something quite wicked about a 4.5 second garrote followed by two back to back eviscerates. Loving Marked for Death!

Haven't touched PvE at all though. Some dailies but got tired of that real quick. I guess this will be the extent of my WoW gaming. Just giving QQers a WTF moment.


Edit: I am thinking a rogue with cloak and dagger makes an excellent MB choice for PvP. The talent puts you right behind the opponent.

Couple that with MfD and you could have each geared toon hitting 300k damage in 3-4 GCD. Times that by 5!

I was itching to get back into the game. now.. not so much. I like PVE more than PVP. But the community will wither if not die now. I move to my current server to be with more boxers like myself.

I just made a ticket about a refund, cause I paid my accounts 6 months in advance and time is still left on them. This is not what I signed up for, if I can’t multibox in battlegrounds they sold me a product which doesn’t exist anymore.

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Originally Posted by JackBurton

I was itching to get back into the game. now.. not so much. I like PVE more than PVP. But the community will wither if not die now.

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I highly doubt that.

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Originally Posted by MiRai

I highly doubt that.

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As do I. I do see it shrinking, however.

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Originally Posted by EaTCarbS

As do I. I do see it shrinking, however.

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Thats what she said.

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Originally Posted by Chivalrous

Thats what she said.

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heya all,
Sad day for mboxing!
i logged in my unique currently active account (10 owned, all been long time inactive with little activity in pandaria starting days) and opened a ticket asking to be refunded or get suggestions about how the hell i could use my 10 accounts now /follow is broken.
waiting a reply.

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Originally Posted by MiRai

I highly doubt that.

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PVE community will stay

I'm still doing bgs... but only cause it's AV and i have the gold for a tundra mammoth to be able to sit on noob hill. I likely will stop though as soon as my dks are geared and x-fer them all to one account.