How will we multibox after /click ,,,,,, is removed in 4.0

What are null spaces?

I just set up steps in ISBoxer to do a full rotation for me.

I use ALT + Q for tank, then I use ALT + E for tank rotation and dps rotation.

It seems like I have replicated automation far in excess of what was permitted previously in the native WOW macro system. Before you had to gauge ,,,,,,,,, timings but using ISBoxer "Do not move to next step for 1.3seconds" I was able to spam Alt + Q then on my final step have ISBoxer send a text message to my WOW screen telling me to switch to Alt + E for my tank and dps rotation.

I have a feeling that I shouldn't be doing this , but my DPS is insanely high and I can make sure that my threat always stays high.
This mitigates any chances Blizzard have done, so I think its safe to assume that no one should use this method for this purpose.

Using steps should be fine as it really just emulates castsequence but as soon as you start adding delays ie don't cast this spell for 8s it crosses the line.

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Originally Posted by ghonosyph

You have to realize WHY they got rid of it, because basically it made dps a non-issue. It was abusable, you basically didn't have to manage anything. Keeping your dots up? effortless, it was automatic, when they were up it went off. Managing a rotation? Effortless, you didn't have to think about your play, you just hit a button and it worked... for us *5 lol That's the kind of thing that defines automation in blizzards eyes.

i never used click macros, because i prefer to play my whole team, like i play them solo :) In cata you're going to have to manage a lot of procs and random cooldown stuff, blizzard thinks that makes players better/its more fun apparently. Just play a pally solo for 20 minutes on the ptr and you'll pull your hair out. There's more abilities that proc, there're more things going on, and there's a TON of random "hit this if this procs" type of spells and talents now that DRASTICALLY make a difference when/if they proc.

Its perfectly easy to play multiple toons, and you can set up your keybinds in creative ways such that you can play all 5 of your toons as if you were playing one toon solo... it may be a little less effective, but i highly doubt its going to be the end of the world for us. I think it will affect the pvp portion of our crowd much more than others. :D

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ive spent alot of time in apst without click macros, ok i consumed my keyboard with spells but it was doable and was'nt too bad. im sure we will manage just fine, changes are prone to always happen.

we will work it out in the end.

There's nothing wrong with a message in a mapped key, telling you what to press. Addons can give you messages too. Prior to switching to IS Boxer (using Keyclone), I'd have Jamba send the message "Press G3" when the toon who was healed by that key got down to 50% health. The generic is, something like "I'm hurting" or whatever. I changed each toon's message to "Press this Hotkey", where each asked for the hotkey which would heal them.

The option do not advance to the next step, even if I push the key, is a little too hazy/gray for me. I realize you are still spamming the key, and every action your team takes is a result of a key press/release. In the current game, with commas in a castsequence (and consistent spam speed) this is the exact same as the option in IS Boxer. However, in the near future we lose the ability to time our recast delays via the default interface... at which point, using software to achieve what Blizzard has intentionally removed is a circumvention I'm personally not comfortable using.

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Originally Posted by Ualaa

There's nothing wrong with a message in a mapped key, telling you what to press. Addons can give you messages too. Prior to switching to IS Boxer (using Keyclone), I'd have Jamba send the message "Press G3" when the toon who was healed by that key got down to 50% health. The generic is, something like "I'm hurting" or whatever. I changed each toon's message to "Press this Hotkey", where each asked for the hotkey which would heal them.

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Ooh, now there's something I hadn't thought of. Thanks Ualaa!

Well, I can confirm that the ,,,,,, part of /click is broken on the live servers. It was the first thing I checked when I logged in. Oh well.

I run DK, Priest, Mage, Sham, Lock. I never used click. All my chars do manageable dps with 1 button spam. It's not great but it gets me through heroics.

Still, 4.0.1 killed my Tank macro. I'm not looking forward to trying to hold aoe threat while 5 boxing now. =\

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Originally Posted by Smokar

I run DK, Priest, Mage, Sham, Lock. I never used click. All my chars do manageable dps with 1 button spam. It's not great but it gets me through heroics.

Still, 4.0.1 killed my Tank macro. I'm not looking forward to trying to hold aoe threat while 5 boxing now. =\

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Blood DK FTW.

After getting macros finalized, I would almost say that macros are easier now then they were :P

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Originally Posted by EaTCarbS

After getting macros finalized, I would almost say that macros are easier now then they were :P

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Blasphemy! How dare you suggest that the heavenly canopy has not, in fact, slammed into the Earth?

If what I'm seeing in the elemental Shammy dps macro thread is actually true, yes, in fact, the macros just got a LOT easier.