Focusless, targetless, 'leaderless' (FTL) setup.

first, thanks for the help regarding the no space in macro line. so basic but that fixed the follow main problem.

however, I tried to setup my combat macros as follows

#showtooltip wrath
/assist [mod:ctrl,mod:shift,nomod:alt]wynterz;[mod:ctrl,mod:alt,nomod:shift]summerz;[mod:alt,mod:shift,nomod:ctrl]autumnz;[mod:ctrl,mod:alt,mod:shift]springz;
/cast [harm]wrath

and if wynterz is lead, it works flawlessly
if any of the other 3 are lead, all 3 of them will assist and cast, but not wynterz?

i copied and pasted the handwritten macro to each of them, so typo shouldnt be a factor. what might be causing this?

to any that can help, the squirrels of darnassus thank you so that I can move out of there and test the combat macros on something else. :P

maybe your hotkey setup is wrong in keyclone?

I found the walkthrough here: What exactly are hotstrings for? helpful, but confusing as well. I'm trying the focusless/targetless etc. setup. I have my accounts to launch named wow1, wow2, wow3, wow4 and wow5, with a one button launch of all 5 wow1;wow2;etc.

I'm working on the 'follow' hotstrings. I created the first 5, for toon A, who corresponds to wow1, like this from the OP's post:

ToonA:



` --> FOA

Ctrl-alt-O --> FOB

Alt-Shift-O --> FOC

Ctrl-Alt-Shift-O --> FOD

Ctrl-O --> FOE

I saved each hotstring as (FOA, FOB, FOC, FOD, FOE).

Now that this is done I can load the keymap to the wow1 instance... but how do I load or associate all 5 keypams above with this one... do I repeatedly hit 'load keymap' and assign the next in line to wow1? I used the names foa etc for ease of use, and will probably use foa2, foa3, foa4 and foa5 for the rest of the toons.

Thanks in advance for your replies.

this system works great!, but my biggest problem is my 'slaves' wont stay assisting? the assisting kinda toggles on/off when i press the 1 key.
this is the macro i have on the 1 key. it would be cool if you could get assisting and following working on just one key.

/target [mod:ctrl,mod:shift,nomod:alt,target=toonA]
/target [mod:ctrl,mod:alt,nomod:shift,target=toonB]
/target [mod:alt,mod:shift,nomod:ctrl,target=toonC]
/target [mod:ctrl,mod:alt,mod:shift,target=toonD]
/follow
/assist

[quote='echo',index.php?page=Thread&postID=135745#p ost135745][...]

and if wynterz is lead, it works flawlessly
if any of the other 3 are lead, all 3 of them will assist and cast, but not wynterz?

[/quote]I think I'm having the same problem and maybe it's related with the order of the toons mods/nomods in the macros.

I'm using [url='http://www.dual-boxing.com/forums/index.php?page=User&userID=2510']olipcs[/url] variation and all was working perfect until I added the 4th member. Both taget and follow macros fail for one of the toons.

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This macro fails when Sundrah is leading (the others don't follow her):

/stopmacro [nomod]
/tar
[mod:ctrl,mod:shift:nomod:alt,target=Sendrah]
[mod:ctrl,mod:alt,nomod:shift,target=Sindrah]
[mod:alt,mod:shift,nomod:ctrl,target=Sondrah]
[mod:ctrl,mod:alt:mod:shift,target=Sundrah]
/f
/targetlasttarget

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Then I changed the order:

/stopmacro [nomod]
/tar
[mod:ctrl,mod:alt:mod:shift,target=Sundrah]
[mod:ctrl,mod:shift:nomod:alt,target=Sendrah]
[mod:ctrl,mod:alt,nomod:shift,target=Sindrah]
[mod:alt,mod:shift,nomod:ctrl,target=Sondrah]
/f
/targetlasttarget

They began to follow Sundrah when active but stopped following Sindrah when active.

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[s]I'm a bit confused and If some more experienced mate could give me a tip I'll be very appreciated.[/s]

Edit: Just found the problem after post the code here. Ingame everything looks small and blurred. I had those : instead of ,
/slap me
Everything is working fine now :)

After the new patch ate a lot of my macros I decided to finally just totally start over with this FTL setup.

I understand the concept now and got my toons to follow properly as well as cast lightning (chain and bolt) in a macros with no problem. it works perfectly. So, I take that same template and try to get my shock spells to work. I just don't understand what is wrong but no matter what I have done it doesn't work AT ALL! I have spent literally the entire day trying to get this setup and am a bit pissed I haven't been playing (my own fault i'm sure).

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

i use main, 2, 3, 4, 5 as my toon names

Code:

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main

4                          >    main.shock
LCTRL+5              >    2.shock
LSHIFT+LCTRL+5 >    3.shock
LALT+5                >    4.shock
LSHIFT+LALT+5    >    5.shock

toon 2

4                            >      2.shock
LSHIFT+5              >      main.shock
LSHIFT+LCTRL+5 >      3.shock
LALT+5                >    4.shock
LSHIFT+LALT+5    >    5.shock

Toon 3

4                            >      3.shock
LSHIFT+5              >      main.shock
LCTRL+5              >    2.shock
LALT+5                >    4.shock
LSHIFT+LALT+5    >    5.shock

Toon 4

4                            >      4.shock
LSHIFT+5              >      main.shock
LCTRL+5              >    2.shock
LSHIFT+LCTRL+5 >      3.shock
LSHIFT+LALT+5    >    5.shock

Toon 5

4                            >      5.shock
LSHIFT+5              >      main.shock
LCTRL+5              >    2.shock
LSHIFT+LCTRL+5 >      3.shock
LALT+5                >    4.shock


Macros.  Below I am posting just one but they are all the same with the exception of changing the type of shock spell.

Macros bound to button 5

/stopmacro [nomod]
/target [mod:SHIFT,nomod:alt,nomod:ctrl,target=Shâm][mod:CTRL,nomod:alt,nomod:shift,target=Shãm][mod:SHIFT,mod:CTRL,nomod:alt,target=Shäm][mod:ALT,nomod:ctrl,nomod:shift,target=Shám][mod:SHIFT,mod:ALT,nomod:ctrl,target=Shàm]
/assist
/cast reset=6 Wind shock
/targetlasttarget

Macros bound to button 4

/cast Wind Shock

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As far as I can tell, your hotstrings look fine, but in the macro, there may be a problem in the cast part of your macro, shown below.

Code:

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/assist
/cast reset=6 Wind shock

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I don't think the reset condition can be used with /cast, only /castsequence. If so, you could either switch to /castsequence, or just use /cast and drop the reset bit.

So either one of the following sets:

Code:

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Different macro for each character, this should make your characters (starting with "main") fire off an Earth Shock onto the relevant target with each key press.

Main:
/castsequence [target=targettarget] reset=6 Earth Shock,,,,

2:
/castsequence [target=targettarget] reset=6 ,Earth Shock,,,

3:
/castsequence [target=targettarget] reset=6 ,,Earth Shock,,

4:
/castsequence [target=targettarget] reset=6 ,,,Earth Shock,

5:
/castsequence [target=targettarget] reset=6 ,,,,Earth Shock

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Or:

Code:

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This should just make them all fire off Wind Shock at the same time

/cast [target=targettarget] Wind Shock

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I'm not too familiar with castsquence so it may not be entirely accurate.

Edit: Also, I used [target=targettarget] in place of /assist, either will work though.

Spent the last 3 1/2 hours working on this, and would like help.

So I have 5 tauren Shaman. Named Shockershama, shockershamb... shockershame. I'm currently working on the follow system.

I pretty much copied the OP's follow secuence, subing my names for toon a-e. I bound O to action bar button 10. I created my follow macro for each toon and put in on button 10. When I hit tilde on all toons, nothing happens. When I hit O, only toon A targets toon E, all others bring up a chanel Roster window.

I created my strings like the OPs subing my names in, and assigned each string set to each wow window as necessary.

I have ~ unbound in all windows. My macro set is bound to action button 9, which I assigned to key O.

I"m unsure of how to copy my stings and macros here, other than manually typing them out again. I use macaroon, and dominos addons.

Any help is appreciated.

Quote:

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Originally Posted by 'Araketh',index.php?page=Thread&postID=136262#post 136262

As far as I can tell, your hotstrings look fine, but in the macro, there may be a problem in the cast part of your macro, shown below.

Code:

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/assist
/cast reset=6 Wind shock

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I don't think the reset condition can be used with /cast, only /castsequence. If so, you could either switch to /castsequence, or just use /cast and drop the reset bit.

So either one of the following sets:

Code:

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Different macro for each character, this should make your characters (starting with "main") fire off an Earth Shock onto the relevant target with each key press.

Main:
/castsequence [target=targettarget] reset=6 Earth Shock,,,,

2:
/castsequence [target=targettarget] reset=6 ,Earth Shock,,,

3:
/castsequence [target=targettarget] reset=6 ,,Earth Shock,,

4:
/castsequence [target=targettarget] reset=6 ,,,Earth Shock,

5:
/castsequence [target=targettarget] reset=6 ,,,,Earth Shock

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Or:

Code:

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This should just make them all fire off Wind Shock at the same time

/cast [target=targettarget] Wind Shock

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I'm not too familiar with castsquence so it may not be entirely accurate.

Edit: Also, I used [target=targettarget] in place of /assist, either will work though.

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I feel like an idiot! This was the problem. reset= on a /cast doh! Thanks!

Quote:

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Originally Posted by 'delafoo',index.php?page=Thread&postID=136376#post 136376

Spent the last 3 1/2 hours working on this, and would like help.

So I have 5 tauren Shaman. Named Shockershama, shockershamb... shockershame. I'm currently working on the follow system.

I pretty much copied the OP's follow secuence, subing my names for toon a-e. I bound O to action bar button 10. I created my follow macro for each toon and put in on button 10. When I hit tilde on all toons, nothing happens. When I hit O, only toon A targets toon E, all others bring up a chanel Roster window.

I created my strings like the OPs subing my names in, and assigned each string set to each wow window as necessary.

I have ~ unbound in all windows. My macro set is bound to action button 9, which I assigned to key O.

I"m unsure of how to copy my stings and macros here, other than manually typing them out again. I use macaroon, and dominos addons.

Any help is appreciated.

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Too bad there wasn't a like profesional area here, I'd pay for help ;p

can you pls get a new post made with a full verson of edits done to this i spent 4hrs reading all this and still dont fully understand becuase of all the changes

Quote:

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Originally Posted by 'Minirogue',index.php?page=Thread&postID=136784#po st136784

can you pls get a new post made with a full verson of edits done to this i spent 4hrs reading all this and still dont fully understand becuase of all the changes

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I'm not sure this is going to be taken well by the people who have already put in the time to provide this/these solution(s). It almost sounds like you want someone to do the work for you.
That being said, not all of the information here is a revision of a specific version, but more of, different solutions people have come up with.

I only use one of the methods from this thread. What others have provided are options. It is up to you to decide how you want to play and use (or not use) them.

Try a few things and post your specific problems and you'll find people will gladly help you here. ;)

i ment set up 1 large page with all the info in 1 post not all ova the place you know have section by section setup

[quote='Minirogue',index.php?page=Thread&postID=136 885#post136885]i ment set up 1 large page with all the info in 1 post not all ova the place you know have section by section setup[/quote]You mean like in the [url='http://www.dual-boxing.com/wiki/index.php/Focusless_Targetless_Leaderless_Setup']Wiki[/url] ? ;)

Quote:

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You mean like in the Wiki ? ;)

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hehe, although, I would not say it covers it all, but I (and all the others how contributed) tried to do an "all in one" post in the wiki, if anything particular is missing, feel free to edit, or post what is mssing ;)

Quote:

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When I hit O, only toon A targets toon E, all others bring up a chanel Roster window.

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..hm, only thing which comes in mind, is the question if you also unbound all combinations of 'O' of at your toons?
-im asking, cause you said, that the chanel Roster poped up on your 'slaves', which shouldn't happen.
To try if your bindings work in general you could bind a simple '/say I'm responding' to O, to see, if all your toons get the keypress...

Great stuff! I'm slowly starting to get the idea... at first I was like MOO what, how, why, where? Now I'm starting to understand the concept.. but the technicalities are a bit too much for me right now. I've got a problem, hoping for some assistance. I'm 3-boxing hunters and I figured I'd try and adapt the 5-toon setup I saw in the OP.

See when setting up KEY in KEYMAP EDITOR, my keyboard just won't let me hit ALT+SHIFT - it becomes SHIFT+ALT instead. As such (I think) I had to set stuff up differently and this is what I'm doing with my first setup, Steady Shot:

Code:

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Winterscorn
1 Steady1
LCTRL+SEMICOLON Steady2
LSHIFT+LALT+SEMICOLON Steady3

Arozshara
LALT+SEMICOLON Steady1
1 Steady2
LSHIFT+LALT+SEMICOLON Steady3

Tereis
LALT+SEMICOLON Steady1
LSHIFT+LALT+SEMICOLON Steady2
1 Steady3

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My problem is thus that this macro:

Code:

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/target [mod:ctrl,mod:shift,nomod:alt,target=Winterscorn]
[mod:ctrl,mod:alt,nomod:shift,target=Arozshara]
[mod:alt,mod:shift,nomod:ctrl,target=Tereis]
/cast [target=targettarget, steady shot
/targetlasttarget

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.. which of course is my attempt to alter this macro, as seen in the OP to be configured for 3-boxing;

Code:

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/target [mod:ctrl,mod:shift,nomod:alt,target=ToonA]
[mod:ctrl,mod:alt,nomod:shift,target=ToonB]
[mod:alt,mod:shift,nomod:ctrl,target=ToonC]
[mod:ctrl,mod:alt,mod:shift,target=ToonD]
[mod:ctrl,nomod:alt,nomod:shift,target=ToonE]
/cast [target=targettarget,harm] Lightning Bolt
/targetlasttarget

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.. just don't 'fit in' with the changes I did. And I've been sitting here for a good while now trying to figure that one out. I just don't know what to do here.
Also, even if I knew how to change that macro, can I even do this? 'Just adapt' the 5-toon setup to a 3-toon setup? Please also point out to me any obvious mistakes I'm doing. Still haven't been able to fire off a single Steady Shot so I dunno if stuff is working at all. I figure I've made it this far (or not) and hopefully I'll be able to get there in the end. Willing to spend a lot of time getting this to work right, but I'm not ashamed to say I'll need some help here ;P

Heck, I don't even know if I made my post understandable or not :]

ok, i try to talk you through it...

..of course you can adapt the setup for only three toons.

1. Define a modifier order
if you want to setup the ftl, the first thing you should do is set a modifier order to identifiy your toons.
You can use for example:

Winterscorn = ALT
Arozshara = CTRL
Tereis = ALT + CTRL

2. Create Keybindings
You wanted to use 1 as the 'master-key' and ';' as the 'slave-key' so you set up the following keymaps in keyclone:

Keymap for Winterscorn:
1 --> W.Steady
CRTL + ; --> A.Steady
ALT +CTRL + ; --> T.Steady

Keymap for Arozshara:
ALT + ; --> W.Steady
1 --> A.Steady
ALT +CTRL + ; --> T.Steady

Keymap for Tereis:
ALT + ; --> W.Steady
CTRL + ; --> A.Steady
1 --> T.Steady

save them all in seperate keymaps and load the corresponding one for each toon with a keyclone command.

btw.: if it is 'alt + ctrl' or 'ctrl + alt' is irrelevant.

3. Create Macros and bindings in WoW

Bind the following macro for firing steadyshot on ';' on all of the three toons and make sure no other combination of ; is bound to another function/button:

Code:

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/target [mod:ctrl,nomod:shift,nomod:alt,target=Winterscorn]
[mod:ctrl,nomod:alt,nomod:shift,target=Arozshara]
[mod:alt,nomod:shift,mod:ctrl,target=Tereis]
/cast [target=targettarget] steady shot
/targetlasttarget

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(with the /target as one line)

4. enjoy (and create other bindings for follow and so on...)

hope this could help, for a overview you might also look at the wiki..

Thanks for taking the time. I did exactly what you said and it's not working. Been double, triple, quadruple checking that everything is set up right.
Guess I'll just stick to my old commenting out /assist and /follow lines method in my macros.

Edit: I'm on a mission to do more of what I have atm and I guess I might as well not overcomplicate things for now. So it's all good.

Hi all,

to those who are knowledgeable, does the game care if i bind using right control or left control in the keymap? reason for my asking is i'm trying to refrain from using "shift" as part of my modifiers for the hotstrings, so that i dont cut myself off from the possibility of using shift as a modifier in macros. to that effect, i'm also only using the right control/alt vs the left one. I know that keyclone makes a distinction between the two because i'm using

nomod for all for toon 1
rctrl for toon 2
ralt for toon 3
rctrl + ralt for toon 4
and rctrl + lalt for toon 5

and keyclone sees toon 4 and 5 as a different combination. but will the game itself be confused by my setup for my toon 4 and toon 5? i'm having some issues with my setup because i'm using zorbathegeek's setup for using /click actionbutton so as to be able to easily sub in different characters for my teams, and my setup is as follows:

slave assist (action button 36)
/target [nomod:rctrl,nomod:ralt,target=wynterz][mod:rctrl,nomod:ralt,target=summerz][mod:ralt,nomod:rctrl,target=autumnz][mod:rctrl,mod:ralt,target=springz]



and the below is one of the nuking macros, which work generally well

#showtooltip starfire
/click macaroonbutton36
/cast [target=targettarget, harm] starfire
/targetlasttarget


however, my slave follow macro is completely broken. if i'm on toon1 (wynterz) all will follow her, but if i'm on any other alts, each of the rest of the team will follow a different team member, or else not follow anyone at all.

/click macaroonbutton36
/follow
/targetlasttarget


I thought it might be an issue with my keymaps, so i simply dragged the slave follow macro to where the nuking macro (the one that works) was at. theoretically, it's the same macro, only replacing the /cast line with /follow. and now in the same slot that is linked correctly because i was just nuking perfectly. but for whatever reason, when i click the same button, which works fine when it had the slave nuke macro on it, will now not work if it has the slave follow macro on it.

i've spent the last 2 days playing around with different settings, and redoing the keymaps 3 times because i thought it was human error on my part, but i pretty much eliminated that possibility. so i'm at a loss now. can anyone please help me? thanks much. :)

**************UPDATE*********************
Instead of the slave follow macro calling on the assist macro via /click macaroonbutton36, i replaced the slave macro with the following

/target [nomod:rctrl,nomod:ralt,target=wynterz][mod:rctrl,nomod:ralt,target=summerz][mod:ralt,nomod:rctrl,target=autumnz][mod:rctrl,mod:ralt,target=springz]
/follow
/targetlasttarget

and now it works just fine.

same keybinds, same keymap. so apparently all else being identical, the /click actionbutton method works fine for /cast, but not for /follow. any idea why this would be? :?:

I would just like to state for the record:

COMMAND FALLTHROUGH SUCKS!

Anyway...I think I got it working. Just had to unbind everything from Ctrl+key, Alt+key, and Shift+key. Because somehow CTRL+Shift+key maps to CTRL+key or whichever exists and make the macros die. O_o

I've tried this a few times now to no avail.

I've set it up exactly as the OPs example shows for a 5 shammy team, Lightning Bolt bound to 2, with the hidden macro bound to I on all toons, with the macro provided on all toons (bound to I), and I get nothing when I hit 2 other than the lightning bolt only on the toon I'm casting with. My hostrings are exact as well. Suggestions? 4th time is a charm I suppose (tomorrow Night).

Thanks.

I think I'm seeing a slight pattern here.

Make sure all the keys you are using as keymaps/hoststrings are unbound from the game.
If something in the game is using one of your keymaps, it's going to fail.

For example, if you use the method from the first page:

2 --> LBAT
Ctrl-alt-] --> LBBT
Alt-Shift-] --> LBCT
Ctrl-Alt-Shift-] --> LBDT
Ctrl-] --> LBET

make sure Ctrl-alt-], Alt-Shift-], Ctrl-Alt-Shift and Ctrl-] are all unbound. Do this for ALL keymaps. (note - do not unbind "2" as that is your activation key here)
The easiest way to unbind them is put them all on your action bar, then delete them from the action bar. (keybinds)

Then, also, make sure you haven't added these in some way to the Do-Not-Pass list. ;)

Quote:

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Originally Posted by 'echo',index.php?page=Thread&postID=137220#post137 220

the /click actionbutton method works fine for /cast, but not for /follow. any idea why this would be? :?:

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Yes, its because i think you bound an /assist to your macaroonbutton36 like:

Code:

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/assist
[mod:ctrl,mod:shift,nomod:alt]ToonA;
[mod:ctrl,mod:alt,nomod:shift]ToonB;
[mod:alt,mod:shift,nomod:ctrl]ToonC;
[mod:ctrl,mod:alt,mod:shift]ToonD;

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and called follow with:

Code:

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/click macaroonbutton36
 /follow
 /targetlasttarget

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what this does is the command:

Code:

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/assist
 [mod:ctrl,mod:shift,nomod:alt]ToonA;
 [mod:ctrl,mod:alt,nomod:shift]ToonB;
 [mod:alt,mod:shift,nomod:ctrl]ToonC;
 [mod:ctrl,mod:alt,mod:shift]ToonD
/follow
 /targetlasttarget

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which trys to assist your Leader instead of simply target him. And thats why it doesn't work...

Quote:

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Originally Posted by 'delafoo',index.php?page=Thread&postID=137262#post 137262

I've tried this a few times now to no avail.

I've set it up exactly as the OPs example shows for a 5 shammy team, Lightning Bolt bound to 2, with the hidden macro bound to I on all toons, with the macro provided on all toons (bound to I), and I get nothing when I hit 2 other than the lightning bolt only on the toon I'm casting with. My hostrings are exact as well. Suggestions? 4th time is a charm I suppose (tomorrow Night).

Thanks.

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As Frosty mentioned, I would also suggest to check if all combinations of your 'slave-key' are unbound and only the slave key itself is bound to the button with the macro.

To simply check if all get the response you might want to bind a simple '/say OK' to the slave-key on all toons, to see if the keybinding without any modifiers work... ..if this is the case, expand the '/say'-macro to the corresponding modifier-combination you used and try that for all diffrent leaders.
(For example use a macro which is build like this:

Code:

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/target [mod:ctrl,mod:shift,nomod:alt,target=ToonA][mod:ctrl,mod:alt,nomod:shift,target=ToonB][mod:alt,mod:shift,nomod:ctrl,target=ToonC][mod:ctrl,mod:alt,mod:shift,target=ToonD][mod:ctrl,nomod:alt,nomod:shift,target=ToonE]
/say %t is leading

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..with the modifier combination you used and your toons name)
If this works out and the toons change their Target corresponding to your 'active' window than you have done the hotstrings and keybinding correct and the problem must be in the macro you are using...

..I updated the Wiki with a little Troubleshooting section, which I (or anybody who want to contribute) planning to expand a little more in the comming days...

ok how would some1 who so far know how to macro /follow /assist and /cast go about setting up this system on 2 characters
just minuse lines or will there b conflict

No, simply you could only minus the lines of ToonC - ToonE lines.
If i we're you i would also change the modifier combination which identifies my toons, so to give a quick walkthroug:

1. Modifier Combination:
ALT + CTRL = ToonA
SHIFT + CTRL = ToonB

2. General keymaps:
ToonA:
'master-key' --> command.ToonA
SHIFT + CTRL + 'slave-key' --> command.ToonB

ToonB:
ALT + CTRL + 'slave-key' --> ToonA
'master-key' --> ToonB

3.Macros
- unbind all combinations of 'slave-key', an bind the simple 'slave-key' to a button
- bind macros like this to your button:

Code:

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/assist [mod:alt,mod:ctrl,nomod:shift]ToonA;[nomod:alt,mod:ctrl,mod:shift]ToonB
/cast ...

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or for follow

Code:

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/target [mod:alt,mod:ctrl,nomod:shift,target=ToonA][nomod:alt,mod:ctrl,mod:shift,target=ToonB]
/follow
/targetlasttarget

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4. enjoy ;)

ok next stupid question from me
with this....

Quote:

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1. Modifier Combination:

ALT + CTRL = ToonA

SHIFT + CTRL = ToonB



2. General keymaps:

ToonA:

'master-key' --> command.ToonA

SHIFT + CTRL + 'slave-key' --> command.ToonB



ToonB:

ALT + CTRL + 'slave-key' --> ToonA

'master-key' --> ToonB

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wat part of keyclone do i do all this
tryed to set them, in the keymap editor but wouldnt respond

the second part, you do in keyclone in the keymap editor.

Say you want to setup '1' as your master key and 'u' as your slave key to cast a Lightning Bolt.
You would create the following keybinds:

For ToonA:
1 --> LB.A
SHIFT + CTRL + u --> LB.B

and save them in a seperate keymap (f.e. toona.kcl)

ToonB:
ALT + CTRL + u --> LB.A
1 --> LB.B

and save them in toonb.kcl

After creating the two keymaps, go in the command editor of keyclone and add in the commands you use to start up the different wows, the corresponding keymap of each toon to the corresponding command.

A quite good tutorial on keymapping (but not related to the ftl) from Araketh can be found here: What exactly are hotstrings for?

I finally got this working. Took me 3 days of trying to figure out how to implement it, but it was DEFINITELY worth the time invested, makes boxing so much better.
Thanks to everyone who contributed to this!

I'm looking at setting this up but what keys do most people use as the invisible macro keys? Using letters like 'i' seem to be the safest but does this impact on you soloing at all if you don't use those keys for any other function? I assume typing would still work fine.

I've had a look at the available keys and there doesn't appear to be that many without all the modifier possibilities.

honestly, i can't realy tell, because in my approach i use the same key for master and slave, so its normaly something accessible like 1-9 and so on...
..but if i would use hidden keys, they would be mostly keys on the right side of my keyboard, as i don't use them for normal gameplay (like i,o,p,j,k,l,n,m...).
As Typing is concerned: When i have to chat i normaly (if i don't forget) stop keyclone from broadcasting, if i want to type a command to all my toons I also use the corresponding function in keyclone, so there would not be an issiue, i think.

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Originally Posted by 'olipcs',index.php?page=Thread&postID=135416#post1 35416

one quick question for those who seem to use the '/click actionbutton' method.

Does it work for you, and had you any problems?

-I'm asking, cause some users seemed to have problems with it.

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I did finally get my /click to work. I had set up the key map for various modifiers on the [ key but then put my macro on the 7 key...gee, wonder why it didn't work? lol

Anyway, I thought I'd reply to this because as of the 3.0.2 patch, it stopped working. Well, to be more specific, it stopped working for 4 out of 5 toons, and only their assist stopped working...follow was just fine! Testing with "/say test" in my macro, it seemed that the key press just wasn't going through at all to the non-working toons. I re-examined macros and keybinds and keymaps for hours and couldn't find an issue anywhere! But it looks like server downtime can sometimes do a person good! In the back of my mind I kept thinking it was acting as if I had something bound to something else. But I'd checked keybinds over and over and even tried rebinding some keys just in case with no luck. Anyway, long story short, it looks like I actually have some phantom keybinds leftover from old mods I'd dropped with this patch. BT4 and Bindpad in particular. The mods are gone, the wtf files for them are gone, but the keybinds look like they have persisted in the bindings-cache.wtf file. Checking it a few minutes ago, I still have lines like "bind CTRL-SHIFT-7 CLICK BindPadMacro9:" in there. So I think I've found what's intercepting my key presses. Can't wait for the server to come back up to test.

Anyway, for anyone who is sure they've got it all right but it's still not working, might be worth looking for invisible keybinds. I'm sure lots of people changed bar mods and such with the 3.0.2 patch and it would seem that that can lead to some keybinding scrambles that might not show up in the Blizzard keybind ui. It's a theory anyway.

To OLIPCS:

Hi Oli, thank you for your help, but my setup is like this

my cast macro is

#showtooltip starfire
/click macaroonbutton36
/cast [target=targettarget, harm] starfire
/targetlasttarget

and my follow macro was

/click macaroonbutton36
/follow
/targetlasttarget

so basically identical except for the /follow versus /cast line.
both are referencing my assist macro (which is on button 36), and it's this

/target [nomod:rctrl,nomod:ralt,target=wynterz][mod:rctrl,nomod:ralt,target=summerz][mod:ralt,nomod:rctrl,target=autumnz][mod:rctrl,mod:ralt,target=springz]

so there's no /assist line in there anywhere. yet the cast macro works fine, but the follow macro does not? i checked all keybinds multiple times because i thought it was a matter of me overlooking a previously bound key, but i'm sure that's not the case after checking the entire keybinding screen over multiple times.

I have since replaced my follow macro with

/target [nomod:rctrl,nomod:ralt,target=wynterz][mod:rctrl,nomod:ralt,target=summerz][mod:ralt,nomod:rctrl,target=autumnz][mod:rctrl,mod:ralt,target=springz]
/follow
/targetlasttarget

and now it works fine, but i'm no longer referencing the button36/target macro. it's not a big issue now since i got it working but just curious why 2 macros that are virtually identical, one would work and one would fail?

also, you mentioned that "As Typing is concerned: When i have to chat i normaly (if i don't forget) stop keyclone from broadcasting, if i want to type a command to all my toons I also use the corresponding function in keyclone, so there would not be an issiue, i think."
how do you do that? my understanding with the ftl system is that you basically have to have your wasd key on the do-not-pass list right? as such typing many commands like /camp doesnt work and i had to make a macro for it. what function do you use so you can type out commands to all accounts simultaneously? or do you just clear the do not pass list for that?


To Poetry:
Your problem sounds JUST like what i'm going through, only reversed. my /follow macro is the one that doesnt work while my cast and assist macro works ok. I was thinking it was a keybind issue also because of the inconsistent behaivior, but I had checked through all my keybinds using the ingame menu. I did not think to check the file directly. Please let me know how your theory tests out. :)

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Originally Posted by 'echo',index.php?page=Thread&postID=137554#post137 554

also, you mentioned that "As Typing is concerned: When i have to chat i normaly (if i don't forget) stop keyclone from broadcasting, if i want to type a command to all my toons I also use the corresponding function in keyclone, so there would not be an issiue, i think."
how do you do that? my understanding with the ftl system is that you basically have to have your wasd key on the do-not-pass list right? as such typing many commands like /camp doesnt work and i had to make a macro for it. what function do you use so you can type out commands to all accounts simultaneously? or do you just clear the do not pass list for that?

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î have, like you, aswd (and some other keys) on the do not pass list of keyclone.
But in keyclone you can set some overrides in the 'override settings', there i aadded keys for override (normaly Pause) to stop broadcasting at all, when i'm chatting and a key to override the do not pass list, for typing things like /camp on all chars...

hm, to your follow problem: honesly no idea, what you described should work :(

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Originally Posted by 'echo',index.php?page=Thread&postID=137554#post137 554

Your problem sounds JUST like what i'm going through, only reversed. my /follow macro is the one that doesnt work while my cast and assist macro works ok. I was thinking it was a keybind issue also because of the inconsistent behaivior, but I had checked through all my keybinds using the ingame menu. I did not think to check the file directly. Please let me know how your theory tests out. :)

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Just tried it out and I have success! I hit the reset button on the Blizzard keybindings dialog and redid all my keybinds from scratch. And what do you know, all five toons are now listening to orders again! To my eyes in the game the keybindings look just like they did yesterday, but on logging out just now the bindings-cache.wtf file is down to 1K from 6K. So I guess, in my case anyway, beware phantom keybindings!

Quick-Cross-Promotion:

Anemo implementet the ftl with HotKeyNet: [HotKeyNet] Leaderless setup with HotKeyNet

its very promising!

Day 5 into my failed attempts of setting up the followless system.

I've gone over my macros and stirings several times. I have noticed that there are maybe 3 or more versions of the macros here, with spaces, returns, semicolons, so maybe thats my problem. I wish I knew how to copy and paste my macros. I'm using 2 as my activator for my lightning bolt, and I as the hidden key as shown in the initial post.

Here is my macro on all my toons:

/assist [mod:ctrl,mod:shift,nomod:alt,target=Shockershama][mod:ctrl,mod:alt,nomod:shift,target=Shockershamb][mod:alt,mod:shift,nomod:ctrl,target=Shockershamc][mod:ctrl,mod:alt,mod:shift,target=Shockershamd][mod:ctrl,nomod:alt,nomod:shift,target=Shockershame] /cast [harm] Lightning Bolt /targetlasttarget

Keymaps are loaded as described in the op.

When I hit '2' nothing happens other than a start cast on Lightning Bolt, only on the current toon. When I hit I, I can see it activate an all other windows as I have the macro bound to a button an a macaroon bar... yet when I hit 'I" I get an Unknown Unit response when targeting a killable npc and hitting I.

Your help is welcome.



Thanks!



~BB

Tried the /p %t is my Master and not getting any response.

I verified that keymap A is associated with shama and B with toonB... so I must have a hotstring error?

ShockershamA, Keymap saved as: C:\Users\Ben\Desktop\keyclone\lbta.kcl
Description: blank
key hotstring
2 lightningbolt.on.toona
LCTRL+I lightningboltontoone
LSHIFT+LALT+I lightningboltontoonc
LCTRL+LALT+I lightningbolt.on.tonbg
LSHIFT+LCTRL+LALT+I lightningboltontoond

This is how my keymap looks for toonA, Shockershama. In the 'Command Editor' of Keyclone, I have the Keymap field set to load this keymap to shockershama upon loading (command is named wow1).

Keymap 2 for shockershamb. Saved as same as above but ends in\lbtb.kcl

Key Hotstring
2 lbtb
LCTRL+I lbte
LSHIFT+LCTRL+I lbtna
LSHIFT+LALT+I lbtc
LSHIFT+LCTRL+LALT+I lbtd

In all toons, I have the Lightning bolt spell loaded onto button 2, and the /p macro you suggested bound to a button on a seperate macroon bar, bound to 'I'.

Further suggestions are appreciated.

Thanks!

~Ben