How will we multibox after /click ,,,,,, is removed in 4.0

A few things:

1. The level of elitism coming from the people who don't use click is disgusting. So you did things in a more difficult manner than you could have--Good on you. Don't come here and crap on the people who're trying to brainstorm the easiest legal way to run a team. Shame on you.

2. With ISBoxer you don't need /click. You can get the exact same functionality by using nul spaces. To me, the difficulty with post-4.0 boxing isn't the removal of /click and commas...

3. ...It's the addition of random elements to most/all classes that make simplifying their rotations (from a boxing standpoint) incredibly difficult. I've been dinking around with my Ret Paladin on the PTR and I'm at a loss on how to streamline their DPS sequence to be anywhere near optimal.

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Originally Posted by Mosg2

A few things:

1. The level of elitism coming from the people who don't use click is disgusting. So you did things in a more difficult manner than you could have--Good on you. Don't come here and crap on the people who're trying to brainstorm the easiest legal way to run a team. Shame on you.

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We'd be less elitist if they didn't all act like it is the end of the world and almost ready to quit wow/boxing if it goes. And the examles we gave of how we do it without click is not terribly difficult. Maybe that's why we sound elitist, because we shrug at something that you percieve as quite hard.

Sorry if this makes me a stupid boxer ;) but what is the click command? And how is it used?

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Originally Posted by Mosg2

A few things:

1. The level of elitism coming from the people who don't use click is disgusting. So you did things in a more difficult manner than you could have--Good on you. Don't come here and crap on the people who're trying to brainstorm the easiest legal way to run a team. Shame on you.

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Call me crazy, but I haven't seen it. The only thing I've seen is people saying don't panic, it will get worked out, and several posts by people who aren't using click now, so it won't be that big of a deal.

Tell me, did your post do anything to contribute to the discussion or brainstorming? I think not.

As to your point 3. several folks have already posted about possibly using a spam button, and a proc button for their different toons. It's not the end of the world, and I think we'll be able to work out a sensible way to do it. Procs are fairly easy to manage, just see the druid eclipse solutions that have been developed.

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Originally Posted by valkry

We'd be less elitist if they didn't all act like it is the end of the world and almost ready to quit wow/boxing if it goes. And the examles we gave of how we do it without click is not terribly difficult. Maybe that's why we sound elitist, because we shrug at something that you percieve as quite hard.

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The original post was a well thought out and presented idea and it was met with cynicism and derision. Nobody posted saying they were going to quit the game because of it. The tone with which this thread was responded to was terrible. Also, most people didn't *actually* post a non-click method that they use that gets same/better results--Especially on the PTR.

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Originally Posted by naPS

Call me crazy, but I haven't seen it. The only thing I've seen is people saying don't panic, it will get worked out, and several posts by people who aren't using click now, so it won't be that big of a deal.

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Go re-read the first three pages and get back to me on that.

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Originally Posted by naPS

Tell me, did your post do anything to contribute to the discussion or brainstorming? I think not.

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Really? Point two was lost on you?

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Originally Posted by naPS

As to your point 3. several folks have already posted about possibly using a spam button, and a proc button for their different toons. It's not the end of the world, and I think we'll be able to work out a sensible way to do it. Procs are fairly easy to manage, just see the druid eclipse solutions that have been developed.

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I agree that boxers will find a solution. As a group we're incredibly resourceful when it comes to solving problems... That's what this thread was about.

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Originally Posted by Mosg2

A few things:

1. The level of elitism coming from the people who don't use click is disgusting. So you did things in a more difficult manner than you could have--Good on you. Don't come here and crap on the people who're trying to brainstorm the easiest legal way to run a team. Shame on you.

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ROFL! Ladies and gentlemen, we have come full circle. Too damn funny.

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Originally Posted by Mosg2

Go re-read the first three pages and get back to me on that.

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Guess I'm just not as sensitive as you are, because I still don't see it.

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Originally Posted by Mosg2

A few things:

1. The level of elitism coming from the people who don't use click is disgusting. So you did things in a more difficult manner than you could have--Good on you. Don't come here and crap on the people who're trying to brainstorm the easiest legal way to run a team. Shame on you.

2. With ISBoxer you don't need /click. You can get the exact same functionality by using nul spaces. To me, the difficulty with post-4.0 boxing isn't the removal of /click and commas...

3. ...It's the addition of random elements to most/all classes that make simplifying their rotations (from a boxing standpoint) incredibly difficult. I've been dinking around with my Ret Paladin on the PTR and I'm at a loss on how to streamline their DPS sequence to be anywhere near optimal.

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I would seriously suggest not using 2. It gives the functionality that blizzard has specifically broken. If you want to chance it fine but please don't advocate using it on the forums until you are sure that users of ISBoxer will not be banned for it.

Pretty much, if Blizzard breaks something intentionally (and we still don't know if the changes to Click + Multiple Castsequences will remain), using software to perform the same functionality which Blizzard broke... is probably not a good idea.

The best I've got so far is... a few DPS keys to be spammed per class. The first is a castsequence, which is the best we can do for a given class. The second being the assorted procs that we want to hit for our classes. Then we alternate between the two, mostly spamming the castsequence, but occasionally hitting the proc key to hopefully hit most of our procs.

Then anything else is on its own specific key, if it warrants the micromanagement. I wouldn't put Heroism into a rotation, but didn't with Click either.

Sorry, but there is no solution to be found, as there isn't really a problem that hasn't been there since day 1. I'm not totally sure but I think /click is only a recent thing, before that, everyone did it the old school way. And now they are forced to go back to it, oh well.

Every class has a rotation. Meaning they go through the same order of spells repetitively. It may be 5 spells (prot pally) or i may be 20 spells, but each class always comes back to a starting point (cast sequence that rotation). You can still do very decent dps without click, don't worry about the removal, it's not the end of the world, back to old school it is.