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12-04-2012, 12:49 AM
Ughmahedhurtz

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ualaa

The game is, and for quite a while has been moving towards, the lowest common multiplier.

The entire addon system has immensely simplified the game.
An addon can tell you when a boss is going to be doing something, and that you should move away.
If can highlight when a debuff is on a target that you should cleanse.
You can repeatedly click a button, and have it reapply your buffs.

In Everquest, prior to addons (if there are addons now, not sure)...
You would buff yourself and then the Melee.
A different Enchanter would buff themselves and then the Casters.
When your buff was getting low, it would be your responsibility to recast the buffs before they expired.

You would have to watch how the boss emoted.
Or time that 37 seconds after the adds show up the boss does his AoE move that kills anyone within range.

By playing to the masses, and making content doable by everyone... Blizzard has become immensely successful.

That said, PvP (a war between the Alliance and the Horde) is not necessarily balanced.
Nothing is ever going to be equal in every regard.
One player is going to be better than another, one might enchant better or glyph worse or reforge while another does not.
Tradeskills will be different, with varying bonuses.
One side will cooperate and the other won't.
There might be 75% bots on one side.
One side might have two healers out of forty characters, while the other side has eleven...

Are you implying that Blizzard is uninterested in the "hardcore" PVP crowd and/or they're trying to drive the "hardcore" PVP people into Arenas/RBGs exclusively while leaving the normal BGs to the Great Unwashed?
12-04-2012, 01:56 AM
daanji

It appears that Prepared is now using oQueue. He managed to get several perfect 40-boxed queues in a row with it. Good times.
12-04-2012, 02:26 AM
EaTCarbS

My only concern is whether or not Blizzard is putting in time to fix the real problems with the game, instead of silly stunts like trying to break premade addons.
12-04-2012, 10:19 AM
valkry

Quote:

Originally Posted by EaTCarbS

My only concern is whether or not Blizzard is putting in time to fix the real problems with the game, instead of silly stunts like trying to break premade addons.

I agree. I wish they would stop wasting time on stupid shit like this and worry about important things, like month long bugged quests, class balance, or actually getting some GMs to JOIN a BG and SEE the sheer number of bots in there... my god!!
12-04-2012, 06:56 PM
Fat Tire

I’ll try to break it down as clearly as I can:

Any addon that enables a full, organized Battleground group to queue against a randomly assembled group is creating a scenario where that coordinated group has a huge advantage. That is not in the spirit of the experience we want to provide in the normal Battleground queue. Playing with friends is fun and important, but it shouldn't come at the expense of the spirit of the game nor the fun of others.

The normal Battleground queue is for players to jump in and play against other players in a similar situation. We realize that it's not a perfect system, and we're still looking at ways to improve normal Battleground queues further. Regardless, it's not meant for organized groups to "pug stomp" and get quick Honor. We have built in outlets for players that want to organize--if a competitive, social experience was really the goal, then there are clear ways to achieve that.

The ultimate effect that this kind of queuing has had is to drive players away from PvP. Perhaps it's been a long time since you've been in a random group, but a lot of players will see that they're up against a premade and simply quit. At best, they suffer through it. To an extent premade groups count on this. Heck, one of the popular addons announces opposing players that appear to have rage quit.

Addons aren’t really a viable solution for botting issues, but we do take those issues seriously and we'll continue our work on improvements to the Battleground system, including better ways to deal with botting and other exploitative gameplay.

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/to...052820?page=11
12-04-2012, 08:08 PM
candlebox

Because "Pug Stomping" is a huge issue. Good call bliz.

Economy-In toilet
World-Large radiation leaks and explosive sinkholes, Mass murders (Egypt), Fake wars
Wow-A pay to play app for you Ipad, and will probably be a Facebook ap soon.

I think we are close to the end my friends. Wow is becoming a complete dictatorshiped game w/ no creativity. Everything is the same, people want to cry for fairness because this is not COD. The WoW ship looks like its taking water and sinking fast. I never here of anyone talking about xpacs or raiding anymore like they used to. I might be moving to planetside myself.
12-04-2012, 08:46 PM
Multibocks

Quote:

Originally Posted by candlebox

Because "Pug Stomping" is a huge issue. Good call bliz.

Economy-In toilet
World-Large radiation leaks and explosive sinkholes, Mass murders (Egypt), Fake wars
Wow-A pay to play app for you Ipad, and will probably be a Facebook ap soon.

I think we are close to the end my friends. Wow is becoming a complete dictatorshiped game w/ no creativity. Everything is the same, people want to cry for fairness because this is not COD. The WoW ship looks like its taking water and sinking fast. I never here of anyone talking about xpacs or raiding anymore like they used to. I might be moving to planetside myself.

You are some kind of whack job.
12-04-2012, 08:47 PM
JohnGabriel

Quote:

Originally Posted by candlebox

Because "Pug Stomping" is a huge issue. Good call bliz.

Economy-In toilet
World-Large radiation leaks and explosive sinkholes, Mass murders (Egypt), Fake wars
Wow-A pay to play app for you Ipad, and will probably be a Facebook ap soon.

I think we are close to the end my friends. Wow is becoming a complete dictatorshiped game w/ no creativity. Everything is the same, people want to cry for fairness because this is not COD. The WoW ship looks like its taking water and sinking fast. I never here of anyone talking about xpacs or raiding anymore like they used to. I might be moving to planetside myself.

I do remember a time when you had to bring mages for clearing the trash, rogues for the boss fights, and palis for the buffs. Nowadays it does seem like you can replace any one class with another and you will be fine.

I dont necessarily see that as a bad thing, pros and cons for everything.
12-04-2012, 10:02 PM
daanji

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vrakthris

There is nothing against queueing up for a Battleground at the same time as others.

Taken from this thread: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/to...age=1#new-post

Of course, this is from over a year ago. Clearly, they have changed their stance since then.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Takralus

If players want to share their RealIDs and group up to run Battlegrounds together, that's their prerogative. This doesn't guarantee them a win, although any level of organisation helps when taking part in a battleground of course.

http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/3389171453?page=22#425

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vrakthris

One last point, since you mentioned it... premade groups are not against our policies.

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/4422092414#15
12-04-2012, 10:13 PM
Ughmahedhurtz

Next up: Blizzard requires access to your phone records and Skype logs before allowing you to queue for BGs to make sure you're playing

in the spirit of the experience we want to provide in the normal Battleground queue.

Do these people even think before they react?

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