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Odd that RaF, with it's 300% faster leveling speed was universally welcomed with open arms around here, and yet this change - which benefits everyone and is unlikely to take off more than... *waves finger in air*... about 10%(?) from the overall levelling time - gets such a mixed response.
I find that very strange.
I read the QQing on the forums, it was to be expected, honestly.
I've played this game since the first week of release. Yes, I have nostalgia for those days, but mostly for the community that existed then, that's gone now. I have no desire to go back to the vanilla game, and seeing how deserted vanilla and BC zones are, most people feel the same way. Northrend right now *is* the game, and people, even new players, rush through content to get there. Vanilla is gone, and not coming back, and I think a decision was made at a high level at Blizzard that revamping the old content is a waste of time, and would just prolong the life-span of a game that probably should'nt hang around that long - the focus is probably shifting towards the new MMO they're working on.
It is what it is - you take from it what you can, and if it's not delivering, you find something that does. Playing WoW is not mandatory, after all. I enjoy it, so I still play, but when I lose interest, I will walk away, just like I did from other games I got into in an obsessive/serious manner, like DiabloII and SimCity. WoW is evolving, and it might evolve away from what you want in a game - it's sad if that happens, but that's when you should move on, not sit around and bitch and complain on message boards about it. Move on. The energy you waste complaining would be far better spent on a new pursuit.
As for the mount changes, they are AWESOME. I have 2 characters who I was just about to drop the cash on to get flying and epic ground mounts, now I'll wait, to save the gold. (All my other 80's have Journeyman and the slow flyers and cold weather flying). 150% flying for a LOT cheaper is a GREAT change for us, and I can't believe any of us would be against it in any way. Wrath has been very good for us with things like this, and the new "interact with target" function, the game for us is so much better, I have NO complaints. 5k epic flying? Who cares? Mammoths? Who cares? Choppers? I've thought they were stupid from day one, they don't fit the flavor of the game and honestly, look dumb.
These changes "cheapen" your experience? Really? C'mon. Be serious. The only thing that "cheapens" your experiences is your own mind. A newbie getting cheaper mounts has NO EFFECT ON YOU OR YOUR MEMORY of your experiences. That's the sniveling of a spoiled brat, I'd like to think the members of this forum are better than that - leave that kind of selfishness to the WoW general forum, where it belongs. You'd really deny new players a faster route to 80, where 95% of the community is, just for your nostalgia for a game that doesn't exist anymore? Really?
As for the gold, who cares? It's fake gold. I did'nt pay real money for it, they'll make more, I'll loot more. So what that my first mount ever took months farming Shadowfang Keep for? That's what the game was then - and if offered cheaper mounts at lower levels back then, you bet your multi-boxing ass I would have jumped on it in a heartbeat and been THRILLED just as much back then as I am now.
Besides, I think they have something up their sleeves along with these changes. The rep discounts for Artisan says to me some new stuff is coming, and will be involved with 3.2 and the Tourney, and later Icecrown. A change like this, in the past, was usually done at the end of a cycle, like pre-BC, and pre-Wrath. We're halfway through Wrath, and this is a MAJOR change.
Dunno. My Blizzard Spidey-sense says they have more to come...I've had a sneaking suspicion that Icecrown and Arthas are going to be something we've never seen before. I can't spell it out, there have just been clues along the way that point to something BIG, and the mount changes might be part of it.
You have ever-flowing knowledge my friend...I think I have a new outlook on life after reading this post. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by 'Gadzooks',index.php?page=Thread&postID=208242#pos t208242
I just find it all pretty amusing. I remember having nothing but travel form on my druid {my 1st, 2nd and 3rd ones, actually} even at 60 because the epic mount was an unfathomable money sink back in the day. Now it's all better mounts, faster mounts, more mounts, earlier mounts. I have to wonder how long until you start the game with a mount in your pack {have they even brought up actually being able to upgrade your base backpack yet? Now that's an overdue change.}
Something really just irks me about games that just pile more crap over top of the lower level game. They really should do something to revitalize the early game instead of creating more ways to plow through it. I am always a hell of a lot more interested in a game that has replayabiliy than a game that is in the constant habit of creating a feeling of "doesn't start until cap". I always enjoyed rerolling new toons to play a new way, but after gods know how many 80s through the same exact content {hmmm, Silverpine or The Barrens...Winterspring or Plaguelands...Oh boy, 'Into The Scarlet Monestary" for the 40th time!"...yawn} my desire to try a new class or new spec just died. It's more boring than fishing, and earlier mounts and faster leveling doesn't fix that. It's still boring as sin, just for less time. Leveling didn't even feel like an achievement anymore, I think character creation beats it out on the fun and exciting scale. Won't be long before character creation takes longer than hitting cap, lol.
This patch actually motivated me to try out leveling a druid team (as much as I *HATE* the tauren models and mounts). Getting to travel form and getting mounts always seems to be the biggest hurdle in the game for me. I think this change is pretty excellent, and the 150% normal flight speed speed change is just the icing on the cake.Quote:
Originally Posted by 'Svpernova09',index.php?page=Thread&postID=208038# post208038
Have any of you tried leveling lately without RAF? It made me re-quit when I tried out a new team. 4 hours later and only level 5? /puke
well that did involve setup time, but still... there's only a few level ranges I enjoy on my way to 80 and 1-20 aint one of them.
I just realized something. We've all be talking about the level at which mounts will be available now, but has anybody thought about the prices?
I've only got the Ambassador title on one toon (ally hunter, currently 44), and he'll probably be the only one I go for the 50-mount achievement on. Without faction discounts, it would cost him 170g for all the regular land mounts, 1500 for all the fast ones, 300g for the stock flying mounts and 800g for the epic flyers. That's 2,770g for the first 32 mounts. With the price cut the costs drop to 17g for regular land, 150 for epic land, 150 for stock flyers and 400g for epic flyers.
717g for the same 32 mounts! :D
That's a savings of 2,063g!
Something tells me my hunter is going to be doing a lot of shopping once this patch hits. (And dammit, they'd better not take away that Albino Drake for getting 50 mounts...)
I wonder when 3.2 will hit... hope it's before fall... july would be nice... not sure I can keep my gold in my pocket that long :-)
Blizzard always is making WoW easier for new players, and it has always been an easy game.
When I switched over from EQ1 I thought it was a joke. Things like a minimap? In EQ1 we had to draw our own map if you wanted one lol, or download one someone else made. They didn't give you maps, they gave you a tool to draw a map. Mounts? LOL, we had no mounts (at first). At best you could find a druid who would SoW you for an hour.
This game has always been easier than the average MMO, which are normally a little bit masochistic.
I like these changes, I need 150% flying mount xD I never bought epic flyers so this should help a bit.
I've never leveled with RAF, though that's because I had my accounts purchased before then. Also, for me the journey is the game, once I get to 80 I no longer have much of anything to do (my friends are playing on another server). My only real race is to 60 because I'm anxious to try out my teams in Outland and then Northrend.Quote:
Originally Posted by 'Multibocks',index.php?page=Thread&postID=208471#p ost208471