I wonder if /follow will be available in Titan MMO?
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I wonder if /follow will be available in Titan MMO?
As to other games, what would I gain going back to EQ1?
I am on a pvp server, as I was in eq1.
EQ1 didnt even have "battle grounds", all pvp was world pvp.
Is there another game with world pvp and battle ground pvp?
Rift..old DAoC...SWtOR...Warhammer..not sure about othersQuote:
Originally Posted by Sam DeathWalker
I wish they would have kept improving DAOC... the pvp in it was insane and i loved it.
Me too.. i have not enjoyed any other PvP more. I was so exited for Warhammer Online..but it failed to capture DAoCs RvR/PvP Magic.Quote:
Originally Posted by Oatboat
I found something that might work for us! Posted a thread about it in this forum, IWT will be our salvation.
Come join the thread and brainstorm with me! We can do this guys.
Well I don't pvp but I am afraid that the /follow ban will soon spill over into the PVE area of the game. I am seriously thinking about canceling my 6 accounts. I am also thinking about moving on to EVE online but not MB. I know eve is supposed to be tough to learn but is it worth it?
Unless they roll back the /follow ban its over for MB in PVP BG's. /follow is just to much of a silver bullet to make any other way worth it. /follow ban = the end to all MB in wow. It is sad because I love wow and have been playing since vanilla and hate to leave but Blizzard has changed since Activision took over and its just getting worse, look at DIII and how they took a great franchise and destroyed it overnight and then they tell us "Aren't You Thankful?"Quote:
Originally Posted by jebnarf
Any suggested free to play MMO's that allow multi boxing? Cause I've just canceled my wow and everything, might go back if they roll back this change.
I am very upset with this change been boxing 3 frost dk's for months now and all I do is pvp, just got my 4th account for a holy pali and now I am going to be cancelling all 3 of my boxing accounts and just leaving my main at this stage - enjoyed it so much.
I just did the chat thing with tech support. He confirmed that was intentional, it's not a bug. He said the support people were told about it last minute, given no reason. He said it might not be aimed at multiboxers, he thought it might be people who just do follow in BG's to avoid being reported afk. He suggested I use the in game suggestions to let the developers know my concerns. I said I'm sure the developers thought of it beforehand. I said that I didn't mind so much that they did it, they make the rules, but the way they did it was cheap. I've played for 7 years and I get treated like this. He said "Well have a great day." So I'll cancel my accounts, I've downloaded Eve and I'll see what that's about. If that doesn't work out, something else will.
I just loaded Linux into VMWare 9 and gave it 60GB RAM and 12 CPUs so I can feel better about this ridiculous rig I just built :(
After this I'm going to run cudahashcat against a million MD5 hashes of 20 character long passwords. This GTX 680 is going to be working very hard for the next trillion years or so.
My wow accounts have all been expired for about a month now, I was just considering reupping when I saw the thing about collection quests getting better. With CRZ now they are making the only way to level a non-traditional team by sitting in a LFD queue for ages waiting for a tank. How fun.
I got five lotro accounts a while ago to try out boxing in that game but then was annoyed that the class I wanted to play was one of the restricted ones (ruke-keeper? or lore master. one of those two), maybe I should consider trying again with base classes and just see how it goes.
Only problem is that after rift and tera, warhammer and lotro just look bad.
Heyaz bitcoins are up to 45 dollars today, maybe you want to just fire up a mining program?
Soo... If follow doesn't work in BGs AND arenas then it seems like it is intentionally to stop multiboxers in PVP....
I think that Blizzard has the right, and maybe even the responsability, to do what they think is in the best interest of their game. But the way they are handleing this is terrible. Not putting the change in the patch notes and not putting it on the PTR when they clearly intended to do this is a cowardly move. IMO they knew that they would draw fire for this, and they didn't want all the hype of their new patch clouded with people arguing about multiboxing.
When WOW came out Blizzard seemed to me like a fairly successful company full of people who just wanted to make a great game. They cared about their fans and their product. Now they allow paid server transfers, paid name/race/character changes, they let you buy vanity items, ect. Somehow they have turned into this huge company that seems to be just farming us for money. And they do shadey things like intentionally break an entire style of gameplay that they have allowed for years without any warning.
That is the real problem I have with this. Yes, I am upset that I can't do BGs like I have enjoyed for years. But I am more upset that they just did this with no heads-up, and still no official response... Even if we are a small community, we are big enough that they made this change, and big enough that they prepared their phone jockies to take our calls... Springing this on us, and they ignoring us is just classless...
GRRR
I have to decide what I am going to do now. I have been farming Ulduar and ICC to make the legendary weapons. I am still probably 3 months away. But I want to show Blizz my dissapointment with them by cancelling. I also don't want to reward them by buying the new Starcraft next week. But doing these things would be like me taking poison in order to hurt someone else...
Nothing super valuable to anyone else in this post I guess, just me venting a little.
I have been coming here for 6 years, you guys have been great. I will still be around even if I can't 1 shot flag carriers anymore.
Fusion
A for-profit corporation turning a profit and expanding? What is this? Capitalism or something?!Quote:
Originally Posted by Fusionsouth
Omg... im so sad ...
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Originally Posted by Lyonheart
I could have sworn I read that Warhammer was closing down all together.
We all feel the same way Fusion. I'm sure most of us will agree that Blizzard has the right to change their game as they see fit, but to spring this on us is just cowardice
If your subs renewed in the last couple of days you should be able to get a refund. I just got a refund for 8 or my 10 accounts. I subbed to try the new patch and this happened...
let's do this: …..”Regarding the /follow command in PVP/BGs being removed, If you feel that the /follow command should be put back into the whole game then while in game press ESC Menu > Help > Submit Suggestion > Enter Your Suggestion.
let's do this! - I'm going to do this on about 17 accounts.
^_ actually that's not bad idea, BUT yeah we cant talk about it here, I SAY LETS file the damn suggestion on all our accounts! - LAX should actually do something and email everyone to file suggestion , and I'm pretty sure we can do something about it.
They are giving me a full refund for the account I purchased and upgraded day before 5.2 and the transferred toon and also class and name change. so that is one good thing. So new boxers you can call them and ask for a refund for not mentioning this in patch notes ect as I have done.
I was surprised though that I only had to wait in the queue when I called for about 3 minutes. This means that not that many people are cancelling or asking for refunds. So I think we're screwed. Follow is probably not coming back.
Hey I am starting to think this is not so bad for me.
If prepared leaves cause of this then seems I might have a shot at claiming I am top dog again (like I was in EQ1 in 2008).
I have no idea if prepared has or has not canceled his accounts.
EatCarbs said he is cancelling so the one person who might have overtook me before I overtook Prepared is gone.
Post in technical support are moved back to general:
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/8155895569
Hey you can use the dark jade focus lens and then send "moveforward" to all account and you will merge towards the target, not sure if you can target a friendly but you can target an oppenet for sure.
Yeah... I am downloading rift trial now. /WOW
Is it possible to box Eve? I've played 2 accounts on that game before but it involved a lot of alt-tabbing :(
The ignorance on the WoW forums makes my head hurt. Even in EQ I knew what dual-boxing was. How can these kids (and adults) not grasp that it isn't the same as botting?
prepared gone? now - ruin guild will get bored at wow.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sam DeathWalker
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Originally Posted by Owltoid
I think the mods should discuss lifting this prohibition on the forum, in light of current events.
No. That would not accomplish anything good.Quote:
Originally Posted by luxlunae
Wat.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sam DeathWalker
I think an acceptable policy is to discuss things that are against EULA/TOS for games that do not allow multiboxing. GW2 for example. At the moment, Blizzard does allow multiboxing so it would not be eligible for private server discussion, but it would be getting close.Quote:
Originally Posted by EaTCarbS
Knows its against the forums rules.Quote:
Originally Posted by aleastrasza
Posts anyways.
We disabled /follow from use in battlegrounds to curb some of the most basic types of bots that use the command. We chose not to communicate it beforehand in attempts to catch as many bots unaware as possible. Removing /follow in battlegrounds is one small change we can make immediately to stop a number of bots, and those that choose to transition to more overt botting methods will have a much higher chance of being caught and banned.
We did consider those who use /follow for other reasons, including multiboxing, before making the change. Multiboxing in battlegrounds has been a long-fought battle within the community, as the effect of multiboxers in those situations is considered unfavorable by many. When we were looking to make a change to disable a command used by bots, which would benefit the game as a whole, we were ok with it also resulting in multiboxing in battlegrounds also going away due to the poor experience it can create for others.
Right now /follow is also disabled in Arenas, but we’re looking to revert that change as bots don’t typically exist in Arenas, and multiboxing in that kind of pre-determined group environment doesn’t tend to be as disruptive.
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/to...775?page=6#104
Added thread to main post.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fat Tire
So what has long been thought is now proven true. complaining on the forums does get results.
Edit: so I guess this means the days of ganking, crz, and auction house control will be coming to an end.
Judging from that post they probably won't disable /follow all together. So the PvE boxers might be left alone... Maybe not forever, but.
Well at least that limits it to battle grounds and give some hope that they would be open to alternate suggestions as to boxing in BG's.
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So what has long been thought is now proven true. complaining on the forums does get results.
Well there have been SO MANY complaints that what else can they do.
And you have to agree that the complaints are not without any substance, boxers are in fact overpowered and underpowered.
On the other hand getting rid of "basic bots" lol, they cant do anything to get rid of bots cept sue the bot software company which they are doing.
Blue post claims it is because of botting but follows it up with how they are improving the game for others by getting rid of multiboxing. I think they took all day to read the forums and see all the boxing hate posts only to swoop in and be the hero to the pitch-fork carrying mob. They probably consider the loss worth it or that the canceling threats are just threats. I'm not sure. One has to wonder if they planned to break it all along with his explanation of how it is good for the community.
my game cards just ran out the other day too, and I have been lazy getting to Best Buy.
as someone else suggested, let /follow work within the battle.net account. I realize that would not work with the community of boxers 9+, at least it would be a reasonable compromise.
I guess 5.2 is the real end to wow for me. I have canceled a few times and taken breaks, but always nice to come back when I was ready. To be forced out? I was 2boxing in vanilla. This change is 8 years too late blizzard. Poor, poor, poor decision.
acid
To me that blue post says "We have no idea how to stop the bot problem, so we are throwing whatever we can think of at the wall to see if it sicks. If you all get caught in the crossfire, we don't care because people complain about boxing all the time. If we put /follow back in for arenas will you shut up and leave us alone?" Yet as I've seen from posts on other forums, the bot problem is just as bad as ever after this change. As I said before, I never did much PVP, but I still won't give this company any more money after this. Sneaking it in without notice then dismissing complaints from the boxer's side as its easier than to listen to people keep complaining is rather pathetic. "We tolerate it. For now" indeed.