Unable to destroy Sam Deathwalker (yet)

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see how that extra toon makes your leveling 20% slower

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Thats not exactly correct. I group the Pal with the 2 lowest groups 2 last in chain guys. Mostly for tagging purposes. Not really sure but because of the raf granting there is no way one guy is costing me 20percent. Also thats for kill X quests only. I dont need to do any quests with the pally at all with the way my raf is set up (5 accounts feeding the pal account), and Pal is still the highest level.



Hummm

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If you have 7 accounts with the above raf set up you only have to level up 4. Because two accounts feed b and c and they in turn feed a, you never need exp on ab or c. humm m

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31 seems very optimal, and you only have to level up 16 and get 15 leveled free. Not to mention 31 is optimal for me also humm .

I have no intention of doing anything in STV lol ...

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Originally Posted by 'puppychow',index.php?page=Thread&postID=176992#po st176992

taking bets on what level Sam will be when his RAF runs out in (40?) days -- I'm betting level 47. Oh, the agony of 50-60 without RAF...

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It depends when I get bored of waiting for him/finding him/killing him; if others find this fun too it would be 40 .. but even without pvp, at the rate I think his lowest will be 45 tops

Sam how do you reconcile "I signup for 6months pay in advance" with "I renew my RAF every 3 months" - loosing a lot of money there ?

I guess I give up on trying to explain why 24 or 25 or 30 toons is much better than 26

Well I did the first raf, then transfered to new accounts for the 2nd raf but they also transfered the time left on the old accounts to the new. This time when the accounts run out of raf Ill wait untill they also run out of time (april) and I can get a 3month plan and new raf accounts if needed.

Go sam go! Get them buggers, hit 50ish, then have the last laugh on those dk startups ;), make them level before they can attack you :P

26 is a good numer for him to run with his current computer set up.

That's it in a nutshell.

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Originally Posted by 'valkry',index.php?page=Thread&postID=177392#post1 77392

26 is a good numer for him to run with his current computer set up.

That's it in a nutshell.

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That's like saying that I'll play soccer with a team of 20 people because I have 20 seats in my bus...

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Originally Posted by 'Moorea',index.php?page=Thread&postID=177395#post1 77395

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Originally Posted by 'valkry',index.php?page=Thread&postID=177392#post1 77392

26 is a good numer for him to run with his current computer set up.

That's it in a nutshell.

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That's like saying that I'll play soccer with a team of 20 people because I have 20 seats in my bus...

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Well, considering that soccer teams do take 20 people or more to games, I'd say that's accurate.

Anything else?

Do you also want to say, "that's like saying I'll play wow with 4 characters because I have 4 accounts"?

Whatever, maybe my analogy is not the best but my point is that it's not the whatever his # of accounts or # of computers which should drive the grouping or playing - good numbers are multiple of 5 (max group size) and/or raid sizes - but 26 just doesn't make sense

ps: sam is hopeless he took him 2 hours to go to orgrimmar and find the weapon trainer - then finally he headed to thousand needles where I promptly killed him and he logged out right away without even fighting... so sad... and not very fun. Still level 37 - btw - what is your /played on your level 37s ?

i thought these forums existed to offer help and encouragement to fellow boxers?

all i see is a bunch of juveniles trying to talk themselves up by putting someone else down? disappointing that the admins here dont weed these people out before this turns into another wow forum.

it does take quite a bit of willpower and endurance to level up that many char.
goes without saying, it will take ages to reach 80 and have proper gear

reaching about lvl 40 within the timeframe he have done aint a shabby task in it self

Silver

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Originally Posted by 'Jezebel',index.php?page=Thread&postID=177422#post 177422

i thought these forums existed to offer help and encouragement to fellow boxers?

all i see is a bunch of juveniles trying to talk themselves up by putting someone else down? disappointing that the admins here dont weed these people out before this turns into another wow forum.

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A) this is "off topic" thread - not the help thread

B) Sam is special; if you don't know; you're not a regular - go read his posts about being the best wow player in the world "soon" back in August 2008

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Originally Posted by 'SilverSlice',index.php?page=Thread&postID=177423# post177423

it does take quite a bit of willpower and endurance to level up that many char.
goes without saying, it will take ages to reach 80 and have proper gear

reaching about lvl 40 within the timeframe he have done aint a shabby task in it self

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right, 1 level 40 and 25 level 37-38 in 6 months... it's amazing indeed... how can it be slower ?

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Originally Posted by 'Moorea',index.php?page=Thread&postID=177425#post1 77425

A) this is "off topic" thread - not the help thread

B) Sam is special; if you don't know; you're not a regular - go read his posts about being the best wow player in the world "soon" back in August 2008

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i wasnt aware that a thread being in a particular section of the forum makes it alright to harrass and degrade other members.

i dont know what he may or may not have said in the past. i do know that your comments and the way you conduct yourself on this forum and in-game reflect poorly on you, not him.

Ya then I was able to complete a quest right under yur nose lol ... while you looking at my guys I ran one to the quest ender then raf 5 others there lol ... And you try and kill my pal as she accepts the raf transport lolzors.

Its clear enough you can kill me at will with a level 60 DK ... I dont have an answer to DandD at that levels, and for some reasons my computers are stuttering when you cast it and I dont move out of it fast enough.

Clearly though you are not getting any higher or getting your characters better, just wasting time following me around or killing me. Ya Org was a joke dropping follow all the time.

All I need do is set up to divide into two groups and exp in zones far apart. You can lock one down but the others will be free to exp. Might have to raf up another Pal or something. might even be smarter to exp with two groups anyways....

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the way you conduct yourself on this forum and in-game reflect poorly on you

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disappointing that the admins here dont weed these people out

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Clearly Jezebel has the wisdom of one greater then her age, and you would do well to heed her words.

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Originally Posted by 'Jezebel',index.php?page=Thread&postID=177422#post 177422

i thought these forums existed to offer help and encouragement to fellow boxers?

all i see is a bunch of juveniles trying to talk themselves up by putting someone else down? disappointing that the admins here dont weed these people out before this turns into another wow forum.

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A) this is "off topic" thread - not the help thread

B) Sam is special; if you don't know; you're not a regular - go read his posts about being the best wow player in the world "soon" back in August 2008

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Originally Posted by 'SilverSlice',index.php?page=Thread&postID=177423# post177423

it does take quite a bit of willpower and endurance to level up that many char.
goes without saying, it will take ages to reach 80 and have proper gear

reaching about lvl 40 within the timeframe he have done aint a shabby task in it self

Silver

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right, 1 level 40 and 25 level 37-38 in 6 months... it's amazing indeed... how can it be slower ?

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Yes he is a dick because he is slow, wauw you must be such a cool person to hang out with. Unless you walk to slow ofc.

this whole thread is a shame for this forum.
most of you ppl behave like 10yo flamers on the general wow forums.

sad to see such a thread here - I've thought we're open minded
but what I read here is not more than a common anti multiboxing flame
which we'd usually screenshot and post here to laugh about.

sad... very very sad..

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Originally Posted by 'beyond-tec',index.php?page=Thread&postID=177501#post17750 1

this whole thread is a shame for this forum.
most of you ppl behave like 10yo flamers on the general wow forums.

sad to see such a thread here - I've thought we're open minded
but what I read here is not more than a common anti multiboxing flame
which we'd usually screenshot and post here to laugh about.

sad... very very sad..

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although i know there is some hate flying around, i do believe this thread is quite entertaining and builds solidity within the community. those of us who are camping sam are either doing it for fun/sport, or doing it just to spite the guy. the former is good and gives us all a reason to be here, to laugh and talk about our multiboxing experience. the latter, however does seem evil at first, but it does bring about a more solid multiboxer, hopefully. we'll just see how far this goes.

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Originally Posted by 'Sam DeathWalker',index.php?page=Thread&postID=177461#p ost177461

All I need do is set up to divide into two groups and exp in zones far apart. You can lock one down but the others will be free to exp. Might have to raf up another Pal or something. might even be smarter to exp with two groups anyways....

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I'm glad I force you to think creatively - but that wouldn't be 26 boxing anymore would it :-) It does bring up another question though; why do you need 1 pally when you have 25 shamans ? 1 pally with 4 shamans is useful for PVE but for 25 ...

Oh if you have 2 groups; I can have 2 death knights :-)

You're free to beg for me to stop, I will if you admit you're a fool (and yes I'm a bigger fool for trying to make my point... but I didn't claim to be the best wow player in the world)


About the whinners who don't like the thread, nobody forces you to read it, it's a discussion about PVP tactics for 26 vs 1 higher level player. Also you can get on your high horse and come help Sam out if you're so nice ?

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Originally Posted by 'Moorea',index.php?page=Thread&postID=177561#post1 77561

About the whinners who don't like the thread, nobody forces you to read it, it's a discussion about PVP tactics for 26 vs 1 higher level player. Also you can get on your high horse and come help Sam out if you're so nice ?

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i have yet to see this. too bad a bunch of us already made toons on Blood Furnace just to play each other. but this would be great if someone did decide to help sam out. but then again, he's not asking for help. and i think he's pretty content without it.

Well we will see I can't spend to many lost raf days wasting time. Still I didn't sign up for a pvp server to not pvp.

Sam is on at the moment if someone wants to pick up the ganking good fight (I need to get work done so I can't)

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Originally Posted by 'Jezebel',index.php?page=Thread&postID=177422#post 177422

i thought these forums existed to offer help and encouragement to fellow boxers?

all i see is a bunch of juveniles trying to talk themselves up by putting someone else down? disappointing that the admins here dont weed these people out before this turns into another wow forum.

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People are having fun and I don't like it, ban them, ban them!!

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Originally Posted by 'Moorea',index.php?page=Thread&postID=177590#post1 77590

Sam is on at the moment if someone wants to pick up the ganking good fight (I need to get work done so I can't)

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Get your work done, I'll be here for a bit ;)

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Originally Posted by 'Jezebel',index.php?page=Thread&postID=177422#post 177422

i thought these forums existed to offer help and encouragement to fellow boxers?

all i see is a bunch of juveniles trying to talk themselves up by putting someone else down? disappointing that the admins here dont weed these people out before this turns into another wow forum.

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People are having fun and I don't like it, ban them, ban them!!

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Glo:
There is no point me wasting my time debating with you. Insulting is far quicker/easier. Fuck you.


I'm not flaming you, as you said "I'm just having fun"

The same fun Wilbur had in this thread.

So, as you said, this is fun for you, so I quoted what wilbur said to Sam and say the same to you.

hey, ... it's just fun

fuck you!





you see the difference between fun and the flaming in this thread now?

So the cracks are starting to appear, whats the cause? Sam.

I told you so.

If we could just hurry up and ban him now, we could all get back to how things were :)

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Originally Posted by 'Jezebel',index.php?page=Thread&postID=177422#post 177422

i thought these forums existed to offer help and encouragement to fellow boxers?

all i see is a bunch of juveniles trying to talk themselves up by putting someone else down? disappointing that the admins here dont weed these people out before this turns into another wow forum.

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People are having fun and I don't like it, ban them, ban them!!

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Glo:
There is no point me wasting my time debating with you. Insulting is far quicker/easier. Fuck you.


I'm not flaming you, as you said "I'm just having fun"

The same fun Wilbur had in this thread.

So, as you said, this is fun for you, so I quoted what wilbur said to Sam and say the same to you.

hey, ... it's just fun

fuck you!





you see the difference between fun and the flaming in this thread now?

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Is that supposed to bother me or something? You think some kid yelling the f word a couple times is going to cause some huge revelation in our lives?

Unclench, you are too uptight. If you don't like what we are talking about or how we are talking about it feel free to skip this thread. Actually you might want to skip any threads I am in, you seem easily upset.

Sam doesn't seem like he wants to play anymore, he logs off as soon as you kill him :(

What happens if you smack the worlds greatest wow player around on a regular basis? Does he drop down to second greatest? Third? Does he get tired of paying $300 a month in subs and not being able to play? A little less arrogance or bragging and I doubt anyone would have even bothered to come see you.

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Originally Posted by 'glo',index.php?page=Thread&postID=177709#post1777 09

A little less arrogance or bragging and I doubt anyone would have even bothered to come see you.

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Actually I'd have come and cheer

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Originally Posted by 'glo',index.php?page=Thread&postID=177709#post1777 09

Is that supposed to bother me or something? You think some kid yelling the f word a couple times is going to cause some huge revelation in our lives?

Unclench, you are too uptight. If you don't like what we are talking about or how we are talking about it feel free to skip this thread. Actually you might want to skip any threads I am in, you seem easily upset.

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nice :)

I'm too uptight? I'm easily upset? I shall skip any thread you're in?
I shall skip this thread when I don't like how you are talking?

I've talken the same way like others in this thread, but the difference is,
this time it's not against Sam, it's against you.

..and so I'm upset...?

looks like you got a problem that I've spoken directly to you and not to the whole crowd :)

and believe me.. I'm not a 12yo flaming kid crying to f-word to get some attention or to be cool, I'm far away from that =)



my words were directed to the ppl writing in this thread, sadly for you, you were the first one
who defended this thread so I directed my posting to you :)

this thread got nothing to do with usual threads we got here - this is just a collection of
disrespecting Sam, flaming Sam and trying to abuse him while camping him on a PvP Server
to stop him from leveling so his RAF time ends. (nothing against camping him on a pvp server
he choose playing on a pvp realm so ganking and camping is just fine but this imho is no longer
a sport or fun - this is more like witch-burning midage).

where is the problem in letting him play?
where is the problem in ignoring his posts when you don't like him?
If he doesn't ask for tips and doesn't respond to your tips, why force him to do so ?
Why do you (not especially you, more the ppl writing in this thread) try to force Sam to play the way
you play or the way that it's best / most effective? why don't you just let him play and have fun?

@support:
I can't support him, I'm playing on EU realms, I can't create chars on US realms furthermore I'm
not playing that much atm because of my job and I'm currently buying a house.

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Originally Posted by 'glo',index.php?page=Thread&postID=177709#post1777 09

Is that supposed to bother me or something? You think some kid yelling the f word a couple times is going to cause some huge revelation in our lives?

Unclench, you are too uptight. If you don't like what we are talking about or how we are talking about it feel free to skip this thread. Actually you might want to skip any threads I am in, you seem easily upset.

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nice :)

I'm too uptight? I'm easily upset? I shall skip any thread you're in?
I shall skip this thread when I don't like how you are talking?

I've talken the same way like others in this thread, but the difference is,
this time it's not against Sam, it's against you.

..and so I'm upset...?

looks like you got a problem that I've spoken directly to you and not to the whole crowd :)

and believe me.. I'm not a 12yo flaming kid crying to f-word to get some attention or to be cool, I'm far away from that =)



my words were directed to the ppl writing in this thread, sadly for you, you were the first one
who defended this thread so I directed my posting to you :)

this thread got nothing to do with usual threads we got here - this is just a collection of
disrespecting Sam, flaming Sam and trying to abuse him while camping him on a PvP Server
to stop him from leveling so his RAF time ends. (nothing against camping him on a pvp server
he choose playing on a pvp realm so ganking and camping is just fine but this imho is no longer
a sport or fun - this is more like witch-burning midage).

where is the problem in letting him play?
where is the problem in ignoring his posts when you don't like him?
If he doesn't ask for tips and doesn't respond to your tips, why force him to do so ?
Why do you (not especially you, more the ppl writing in this thread) try to force Sam to play the way
you play or the way that it's best / most effective? why don't you just let him play and have fun?

@support:
I can't support him, I'm playing on EU realms, I can't create chars on US realms furthermore I'm
not playing that much atm because of my job and I'm currently buying a house.

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This guy is the #1 wow player out of 11million people, many of which have quite literally been playing this game for years. He doesn't need your help or anyone elses. In a few short months he has set the world ablaze (the world of warcraft that is). As amazing as this guy is I'm surprised we don't fall over dead just zoning in to the zone he is in!

He's never had a character over the level 40 and talks down to people clearing heroics on their own and boxing in 25 man raids yet you guys feel he needs a defender. The last thing this guy needs is people sticking up for him, that's how he has got to the point where he is cursed with this amazing arrogance coupled with a mind numbing level of ignorance about that which he claims to be the best at!

The simple fact of the matter is he issued a challenge and it appears to have been accepted by a few people. Now I challenge you to take a few minutes to actually look at his past posts and tell me you wouldn't like to kick him in his smug diaper wearing ass ;)

Multiboxers doing their best to interfere with other multiboxers enjoyment - tis truly a sad day.

It always amazes me how the anonymity of the internet allows people to behave so badly.

In the real world you have to face the consequences of such rudeness, online you can just say what you want, do what you want and never really have to worry about it.

So Sam says he's the best WoW player in the world - What does that matter. It doesn't change the fact of whether he is or isn't.

Why does it rile you so? Why is it such a personal affront?

We see threads on this forum about how non boxers go out of their way to spoil the enjoyment of others and yet here we have a select few actively doing that to one of our own.

Sam really isn't the problem here, and banning him wouldn't solve it. The next non conformist to come along would likely be met with equal childishness.

Seriously folks - re-read your posts and ask yourself, is that really something to be proud of, is that really the face you want to present.

Griefing and flaming are two words that spring to mind.

Bullying has no place in society in any way, shape or form.

It's a shame I'm in the EU rather than US. I'd love to make a DK squad and then corpse camp a couple of the posters here... :)

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Originally Posted by 'jinx08',index.php?page=Thread&postID=177724#post1 77724

Griefing and flaming are two words that spring to mind.

Bullying has no place in society in any way, shape or form.

It's a shame I'm in the EU rather than US. I'd love to make a DK squad and then corpse camp a couple of the posters here... :)

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And we would all have fun, playing a game.

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d love to make a DK squad and then corpse camp a couple of the posters here... :)"

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Originally Posted by 'glo',index.php?page=Thread&postID=177743#post1777 43

And we would all have fun, playing a game.

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Not everyone would have fun because it's a little bit about the money, too

e.g. I've bought 2 additional accounts to get a new RAF.

So I got 90 days to level chars. Within the RAF time I got some personal goals which I want to finish
before the time is up. So players which corpse-camp me for hours and continue doing that for weeks
will cost me $$$ because when the time is up I have to transfer the chars to new accounts so I can
keep on leveling them with the RAF bonus. Especially when I don't have that much time to play.

leveling without that bonus is just a pain in the ass.

That's why I play on PVE realms but even on these realms I currently got some serious issues with the
instance servers on the EU realms which are overloaded and therefore you can't do instances on weekends.

sometimes you need to take a look over the rim of your teacup to see the things from the sight of other ppl.

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Originally Posted by 'Wilbur',index.php?page=Thread&postID=177708#post1 77708

So the cracks are starting to appear, whats the cause? Sam.

I told you so.

If we could just hurry up and ban him now, we could all get back to how things were :)

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You, sir, are taking this way too far. If, as glo said, its all in the spirit of the game, then you have taken this to a personal level. I've read quite a few posts from various threads from you regarding Sam, and what ever kind of vendetta you have against him, I really don't think its welcome here on these forums.

Yes Sam can be pretty arrogant and at times damn right cocky, but I for one find his posts quite amusing to read.

I've read his posts and I've read your posts and to be honest I don't have a burning desire to waste my time trying to cause either of you grief in game or out.

Nobody here believes for a second that Sam is the best player in wow (apart perhaps from Sam).

You could argue back on forth on whether he is or isn't, no problem with that - in fact it has been done.

But seriously, rolling a DK, for the sole reason of stopping someone else achieving anything in game, Showing pride that you will cost this guy more money and hopefully get him to quit playing a game is nothing but a personal attack.

Then of course there is your post with this in it - "BTW, you have a fan, she says your diaper is sexy and had a question. She says to ask Sam "What he'll be putting in his Crock pot tonight and whether he eats it straight from the pot or uses the paper plates". I assured her you would never waste a paper plate or the time involved in the dishing. This did bring a striking thought to mind, don't know if you have every thought of it but imagine what you are doing to the person that finds your body. You in your loincloth, homemade sex swing/computer desk on you, and a half eaten crock pot of unidentifiable meat. You are going to mess someone up for life. Do your prostitutes check up on you? At least they would be used to seeing some freaky shit. "


Again that seems a tad more personal than just having fun playing a game.

Meanwhile...

http://www.wowarmory.com/guild-info....20Prepared&p=1

Why did you stop at 70? Are the accounts upgraded to lich king?

Also, you might want to look at spending some talent points... just a thought.

Knobley

I said I am the best EQ1 Player (pre-SoD), I also said that the way to measure who is the best player in WoW is by who can "solo-box" the strongest mob. I can kill a level 42 mob. I kinda doubt that makes me anywhere near the best at this time. Probably puts me at about 6 millionth best. (But hey I went from 11 millionth best to 6 millionth in 4-5 months).

I do believe that at some point in time, in the future, I will have Prepared as my only competition, similar as I started out in EQ killing level 1 mobs with 2 guys and ended up (years later) with the strongest collection of characters in that game that I can play by myself at the same time and that I leveled up myself from level one in the game (pre SoD).

Camp all you want, I still level up every day. I notice that if you log prior to being attacked you dont get killed lol .... Ya there is no possible way for me to kill your guys so Im just logging when I get attacked by higher levels, I got tons to do, macros, build faster computers, read about aoe spots, read about talents, read about spells, post on forums, work on other things, watch movies, eat .... sleep lol

And like I say my RAF is unlimited. I just freeze my EQ subs and I have funds to buy 26 more accounts.

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...ynn&n=Prepared

Ya how do you get level 70 with 16 talent points spent? Maybe he has not done them since the reset. Maybe his funds is not allowing WotLk right now.... And he seems to have only 32 accounts.
1600 pvp kills though ... but no professions. I have over 170 on most all professions.

you cant measure "best" no matter how you try to qualify it.

Someone has to be the best player .... And who can kill the strongest PvE mob seems a resonable measure.

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Someone has to be the best player .... And who can kill the strongest PvE mob seems a resonable measure.

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Good luck on your goal. im sure many will disagree on your own qualificaion of "best" in this case, as am i. i think its best to have goals for yourself and not goals to claim yourself as the "best" at something.

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So the cracks are starting to appear, whats the cause? Sam.

I told you so.

If we could just hurry up and ban him now, we could all get back to how things were :)

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If we could just hurry up and burn that witch now, we could all get back to how things were!
Modern methods, that's how to treat people you dont like huh?
For crying out loud, ignore him if you don't like him - nobody is forcing you to read his threads or anything - just simply ignore him or is it so much fun behaving like children?

Please ban him because he's not acting like I want him to, he's stupid I don't want to play with him any longer!!! X(
(might contain a bit sarcasm)

But .. whatever, do what you have to do - it's not even funny any longer.

Xorn