having a 25 man shaman army would just own any type of PVP harrasment, almost like the hogger raid. I guess you need a few pallys for the 10+ raids.
I think leveling up more than 5x at a time would be hard though.
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having a 25 man shaman army would just own any type of PVP harrasment, almost like the hogger raid. I guess you need a few pallys for the 10+ raids.
I think leveling up more than 5x at a time would be hard though.
Well what he can do too, is get 40 accounts. that way he can lvl in 40 man raids. that will probably get him to around 65 hopefully. Or group with some other people to do 40 mans... I bet a couple of 70 will love to do the old stuff because they never did it before. Or roll on a server like mag and i bet some people in the zerg would love to go to 40 man.
IIRC, EQ allows 6 players per group, so that's probably why you have 24 account, and have 4 groups you can go through in 2 seconds.Quote:
Originally Posted by 'Sam DeathWalker',index.php?page=Thread&postID=91984#po st91984
I think the best approach to leveling 25 toons is doing quests 5x each as a group. You don't need a tank to do quests outside of instances. If you group together as raid of 25 toons, you can't complete quest objectives.
If I were to level 25 toons, I would level 5 gorups:
5x Blood Elf Paladins. 5 tanks! And maybe make 3 holy healers later.
5x Undead or Troll Mages. See Undead has this fear break, and troll have Spell Haste which will be good for PvE raiding.
15x Shamans? : Orc for +dmg racial, Troll for haste racial, Taurens not so much for PvE aoe stun/more hp.
or you can mix up some other class for raid buffs: Priest (hp, spirit), Druid (+stats, +armor, boomkin aura), and Warlocks (health stones, curse).
If you're talking about EQ1, then most of the bosses there are Tank and Spank. Bosses such as Nagafen, Vox is tank and spank.
The 25 man content in WoW such as High King Mulgar requires many tanks, with mobs doing a variety of crowd control and aoe damages: such as fears, stuns, cleaves.
Consider running 10-man perhaps first until you get a feel of how WoW runs?
According to WotLK, the content there will be made for 25-man and has a corresponding 10-man content.
Right well humm didnt know that resting takes like a week ... and that mobs are teathered so killing 50 at a time is out.
I am thinking of this server:
http://www.warcraftrealms.com/census.php?serverid=19
There is 14,000 enemy to attack, if I am horde
Ok just completly forget about raiding or being in raid formation, or being in a raid, all of that is complety out. There is no such thing as killing raid mobs without a tank ... With leashing maybe pbaoe is also out, humm.
Is it possible to camp spicific zones and get enough honor killing enemies in world pvp on that server? Shurly there will be some high level zones where enemy will be zoneing into on a regular basis.
Tagging exp will help actually as I can then get it into the group needed. Although as stated you will get less exp with others helping, because mobs HP is so low (made for solo), it may be that little outside help is needed and Ill just be running 5 groups in different areas (to help with repops), a bit from each other might be best way. Kill a bunch with one group, then let them regen mana, while I kill some mobs with the next group etc. This is really bad that you lose exp the more that help but I guess with the mobs having so low HP relitivly you don't need much help.
No Faction, No AA, No Keys humm ... WAY WAY less exp is needed then EQ. I know people can't stand the thought of leveling up Five times in seperate groups but to someone used to EQ this dosn't seems like much really lol ...
Given the almost zero advantage of having 25 for exp purposes maybe I have to do 5 at a time ... lots of reading to do for sure.
Ya the AV seems the only pvp zone Ill be doing in, or that new pvp only zone in WoLK.
Is cities possible? I better read about that.
Well if these totems do stack raid wide ... well thats why I posting first, seems there is a lot to learn for sure, maybe might have to wait untill December to start so that we will know what is nerfed and what made it live and what kind of environment will exist. Surly if all these totems do allow raid wide bonus then shaman will be casting spells that have as much damage as mages, I would think.
Reading through the different posts I am going to have to agree with the strat of leveling 5 pallys to start off. Once they hit 70 activate your other 20 accounts and level them with each pally as prot.
Ist off this will save you time and money. Aoe bombing instances with your pally tank is the fastest way to level, and you don't have to worry about quests, crappy exp from low level mobs... And with the 5 pallys you will learn how to play one of the more complicated classes. I definitely think starting with 25 chars is a bad way to go. just my opinion.
I say you give it a shot and see what happens. I want to see this!
Is there a good source of infromation as to pbaoe being done sucessfully?
Is there a source of info as to the exact exp forumula as to how it goes down the more people involved in the kill and what the bonus for group is etc.?
The reason I picked mages is becasue they have the best single nuke, if shaman can do more nuke damage with lots of totems stacking, why not then use shaman? If all have self rez thats save SO much time.
Agreed pretty much with what everyone else said. Only things I
can suggest.. level a pally. First it will give you a better idea
of wow leveling but it will also provide you with a toon that you can
use to boost your other groups. If you decide to have 5 groups then
using him you can boost your groups through SM/zolo. If the goal
is to reach max level as quickly as you can then within a month, you
could potentially have 5 groups that are at 60.
I've never played EQ but from what I gather one difference is the mob
respawn. In wow you can very quickly wipe the area of mobs; what
you're going to hit is the respawn timers. That's why boosting
with a pally is much more quicker method (although very boring; but you
can read/browse/watch tv :))
PVE: if you want to do any of the raid content, tank is needed (your
pally would be good for that). Some require quiet a bit of movement but
after seeing kara one manned I'll say anything is possible heh
PVP: atm AV is the only zone that can take 25+ players. You'll
have the burst power to kill everyone but eventually everyone on the
opposing team will go after you and zerg you. Gearing in pvp gear
will force you to play the 5/10 man bgs for tokens though.
I think the Pbaoe you're referring to is power levelling.Quote:
Originally Posted by 'Sam DeathWalker',index.php?page=Thread&postID=92272#po st92272
I would highly suggest to power level your Paladin tank to fast to 70, with the supporting group: 1 mage (for porting, and mana biscuits), maybe start 3 shamans (1 as a healer) to see how totems benefit.
Then search how Paladin tanks can be used to power level 4 other lowbies from level 10 to 55/60, sometimes referred to as "boosting" in instances.
No doubt Mages have the potential of being the best single target nukers: Pyro + Pom/Pyro. combo; provided that they won't steal agro from the tank.
Imagine this.Quote:
Originally Posted by 'Drizzit',index.php?page=Thread&postID=92207#post9 2207
Horde01: "South Tower burns in 1 minute.:
Horde02: "They on Drek @ 60%"
25Boxer: casts 100 totems.
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