60-Boxer on Emerald Dream

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Originally Posted by Ughmahedhurtz

Well, don't forget that this "arms race" of whiners was going on well before multiboxing was a thing; we're just the equivalent of drag queens at the Marine Corps Ball, politically.

Ah, but "spirit of the playstyle" has no fixed meaning, never has, and never will. Ditto with PvP. Ganking lowbies isn't in the spirit of the playstyle if you're the lowbie but if you're an archetypical nub-pwner, It's Fine L2P. The arms race IS the entire raison d'etre of PvP; it's why there isn't a checkers MMO. ;)

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I only need look at the title of the forum and to recall when this was new to know that the origins of dual boxing came long before the multiboxing we know today. It addressed a very specific niche for very few players. Players who were not challenged by playing a single character had the option of playing two. Then it went up to a party and ballooned out of control to what we see today.

I view this as a perversion. It reaches a point where the challenge is lost and it can only represent the ultimate form of griefing. Think about it this way. What is the impetus to buy a few more accounts whenever someone trounces us in world PvP? To win the next time, right? Lets forget about getting better on what you have. That is the sticking point for me. It moves away from actually learning how to play two characters and moves into a numbers game. Just add 20 more accounts with the same one button rotation and justify the cost by going around the world looking for a fight.

Why not do arenas? Why not try out challenge modes? The answer is they aren't actually looking for a challenge. They are looking for bragging rights to something that isn't even worth bragging about. A giant waste of time and money.

PvP happened :'( so sad.

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Originally Posted by MadMilitia

It most likely will affect all of us in a very adverse way. Just knowing how these kind of things squeak their way through the corporate domain doesn't give me a lot of hope.

It will take development time to accommodate what should be done.

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If we go we go thats it.

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Originally Posted by MadMilitia

Ex: Allow one bnet account more wow accounts and then limit things like follow to bnet account only, then restrictions based on number of logged in sessions.

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This is really really silly so remove follow from the hole game just let mutiboxers use it NOT going to happen. sorry but that is just silly to think they would do this other players do use follow. I can not really see follow getting removed to be fair.

one bnet account per person is as well silly, so anyone that plays d3 and box's it can not do it.

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Originally Posted by MadMilitia

2 - no restrictions and officially supported.

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Not going to happen they would have to support software a tech support for us, if we want a change to make stuff easyer for us then they might have to. EG: HEY am a mutiboxer and dungons have to much aoe fix blizz, I BOX and my class does not work fix fix fix fix fix etc.

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Originally Posted by MadMilitia

3 - bg restriction

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Already in place and it works for them.

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Originally Posted by MadMilitia

5 - pvp restriction

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Follow removed when tagged for pvp great plan make all my chars Useless or make me pay to move servers great!

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Originally Posted by MadMilitia

10+ phasing restriction.

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Undo wod changes make life a lot easyer. and what about friends in big groups (eg summing outside raids)

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Originally Posted by MadMilitia

That takes development effort though. I hope that they consider this but again, the cost to do it might outweigh the benefit of doing it.

I could very easily see this decision to ban all multiboxers coming down from the executive level from someone who has never played the game let alone explored the playstyle.

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you said it right here. ban all multiboxers or though it be to hard keep tags on. something they let us do for 11 years.

Or keep it as is leave it and suck it up and if they was going to do somthing i would think it be done by now.

Or though i can see a full follow removed when tagged for pvp (with the new pvp mini zones back and other stuff.)

Prepared: What do you call someone who doesn't multibox? an Unskilled-player.
Prepared: What do you call someone who multiboxes, but argues with other multiboxers? You call him MiRai!

I had a cheeky laugh at the second one ;)

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Originally Posted by ebony

Not going to happen they would have to support software a tech support for us, if we want a change to make stuff easyer for us then they might have to.

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You don't know that. A plea for a more difficult experience has historically been supported. Clearly the first step here is identifying acceptable ranges for multiboxing and applying restrictions beyond that.

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Follow removed when tagged for pvp great plan make all my chars Useless or make me pay to move servers great!

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I never suggested this. Follow wouldn't be removed. The ability to queue into the same random BG would be. 2-3 is really debatable but 5+ is not. Though I don't think a 10 boxer should be blocked from running a rated BG. So the rule would be if concurrent sessions greater than 3 there will be no queue random BG button for you. If you log one out ( down to 2 concurrent sessions ) and reload the interface the queue button will be back.

As for world PvP, you don't hit the phasing restriction until 10+. The PvP restriction at 5+ would be to flag you as neutral to vendors and such so that you can't grief towns doing it. You can still defend yourself when someone attacks you.

At 10+ concurrent sessions your squad would be phased out ( phased into their own server instance ) when out in the world.

Did you guys think about the removal of honor points and the fact that it is only tied to arena and bg in next expansion.

Perhaps what is needed to make 5 / 10 boxing the wanted thing to do is already in place.

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Originally Posted by Selzmultibox

Did you guys think about the removal of honor points and the fact that it is only tied to arena and bg in next expansion.

Perhaps what is needed to make 5 / 10 boxing the wanted thing to do is already in place.

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If I understand you correctly, and I like to think that I am. The changes in legion will have an impact on wpvp.

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Originally Posted by Selzmultibox

Did you guys think about the removal of honor points and the fact that it is only tied to arena and bg in next expansion.

Perhaps what is needed to make 5 / 10 boxing the wanted thing to do is already in place.

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The angst resolves around the notion that someone can have 5+ characters focus fire down someone else without them having much chance at doing anything / getting away. Some classes simply can't do it.

I do agree with them on that front. Once you reach a certain number, focus firing down people is really easy and doesn't take intimate knowledge of the class. This makes it more of a problem than say, 5 people who may or may not be focused on you. Even though 5 people generally stomp a 5 boxer.

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Originally Posted by Selzmultibox

Did you guys think about the removal of honor points and the fact that it is only tied to arena and bg in next expansion.

Perhaps what is needed to make 5 / 10 boxing the wanted thing to do is already in place.

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no changes for wpvp blizzard said they be more wpvp then ever before. u get the new honor levels for honor kills in the world and quests there and killing old world bossess (maybe) and they said somthing about asking the guards to leave dala to take over the city!

chars will use the pvp templates when a char goes for you in the world (like pvp ilvl works now)

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Originally Posted by ebony

chars will use the pvp templates when a char goes for you in the world (like pvp ilvl works now)

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Wrong.


Looks fun!Will stat nullification(reallocation) activate upon entering pvp combat in open world or only in instance pvp?

Only in instanced PvP.

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