Sentinels/Marauders, the new 4x DK?

I did the "Terminal Injuries" H2 as soon as I had arrived at Nar Shaddaa with my duo without a single death (or even close) and we were level 24 at the time.

Ok, I will then stick to my dual BH's with their respective Mako's as the better thing for me right now. Being an Armstech and Armormech helps keep them all geared up well, including Mako which keeps her heals up.

The BH's are now nearly 29 and even though I've got the next companion (Gault) they were sent right to their respctive ships in favor of keeping the Mako's.

2 Boxing a FP is going to be a feat just short of epic. "Could" it be done? well, Im sure at some point, someone will work out all the fight timings, and custom make a boxing profile that is perfectly efficient. However, given the current state of the game, lack of macros, lack of FTL, lack of IWT, Healing being a custom job, companions being so heavily gear dependent, I would steer clear of FPs at level. Now, I did take a couple near level 30 toons and a third level 12 through BT, and completely smashed faces until the level 12 is geared with all options from the FP. That definitely made things easier when I moved on with the level 12.

Point is, there are ways of making things happen, just depends on how much effort and time a person wants to invest into doing it for the sake of "doing it".

On a semi-related topic, what is considered a "burn DOT"? Just Cauterize or is there more?

I think the idea of 4 SMs is more world stuff and PvP. The only teams that will be able to do normal mode FPs, at level, and without a lot of wiping, are teams with a tank/heals and dps.

For two man teams, i think the duel BHs and the duel Sorcs are great. I was able to solo some +2 heroics, at level with my solo Merc in heal spec, healing Blizz ( your first tank pet ) I'm sure with another BH i could have done several of the +4s due to having two CCs. lots of healing etc. But if you want to do FPs and all heroic+4s.. make a team with tank..heals and any dps.

I am seeing this game scale in difficulty as the character increases power; post level 40 stuff hits very hard, and our characters have better ways to deal with it. Playing my Jugg’s solo I have pretty much given up on using any companion save my healing one due to the significant amount of incoming damage. Sure, with my dps companion I can usually get through it, but not without medpacks, post fight heals, ect. With my healing companion I solo most 2+ heroics, albeit slowly and not without defeat; no possible way could I do this with a dps companion.

With boxing the same will be true trying to attempt 4+ heroics with (4) accounts; the higher level you get the more difficult it will become without leveling and gearing you characters way over the base level, and flashpoints seem to be harder than world heroic encounters.
(( upping my memory this next week to 16-gig so I can bring on (2) more accounts; feeling very good about having all the basics necessary at this point with my (2)…))

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Originally Posted by Pyro_box

I am seeing this game scale in difficulty as the character increases power; post level 40 stuff hits very hard, and our characters have better ways to deal with it. Playing my Jugg’s solo I have pretty much given up on using any companion save my healing one due to the significant amount of incoming damage. Sure, with my dps companion I can usually get through it, but not without medpacks, post fight heals, ect. With my healing companion I solo most 2+ heroics, albeit slowly and not without defeat; no possible way could I do this with a dps companion.

With boxing the same will be true trying to attempt 4+ heroics with (4) accounts; the higher level you get the more difficult it will become without leveling and gearing you characters way over the base level, and flashpoints seem to be harder than world heroic encounters.
(( upping my memory this next week to 16-gig so I can bring on (2) more accounts; feeling very good about having all the basics necessary at this point with my (2)…))

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Marauders and Sentinels are not a flashpoint team. That said, my Sentinels only had to skip a few Heroic 4's, and my Marauders which are now 41 are the same, just a few Heroic 4's have been skipped.

If you intend on duoing Flashpoints, you will want to run a healer + a tank and keep your DPS companions geared the heck out. In beta when I completed most of the flashpoints in the game with Merc/Merc and Assassin/Operative the mechanics were slightly different. Now most FP's run enrage timers on bosses. Additionally, companion tanks got a +60% armor buff in their guard stance which actually allowed them to effectively main tank. This is not the case now.

I feel like Powertech is going to be the best tank you can run for one simple reason, it has charge + pull + it can tank at range if needed. This means that you can, and should drive as much as possible with the healer. In movement sensitive encounters you can quickly set pets to passive, have your tank follow, set companions to attack, move yourself and recharge with your tank. If the mob is out of contact with the PT, the PT can still tank via ranged abilities.

I just want to do flashpoints boxing 2 dps with pug tank and healers. I hope at some point I can figure out the leader issue so my alt can assist and follow me instead of someone else in the group.

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Originally Posted by pinotnoir

I just want to do flashpoints boxing 2 dps with pug tank and healers. I hope at some point I can figure out the leader issue so my alt can assist and follow me instead of someone else in the group.

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Use Chazz's system, he describes it, or use mine.

Chazz uses the variable target function recently added, he has a walkthrough on how to use it. I create 4 new keymaps, each keymap can be toggled off or on. Each keymap has an assist macro and a follow macro that corresponds to party slot 1 through 4. Then when I follow, I call all 4 follow macros, when I assist I call all 4 assist macros. However by toggling them off or on I only send one of them.

If I am playing in a group I just cycle through my party target hotkeys until I find which party slot my characters occupy. Usually they occupy the same slot for each other, so if they are in party slot two, I turn off assist/follow for slots 1 3 and 4.

Chazz's system is easier to implement I think, as it cycles the assist/follow target through a single key as opposed to my four toggles. Either way will achieve what you want, the ability to quickly change what slot you are assisting and following with your alt.

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Originally Posted by Mercbeast

Chazz's system is easier to implement I think, as it cycles the assist/follow target through a single key as opposed to my four toggles. Either way will achieve what you want, the ability to quickly change what slot you are assisting and following with your alt.

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Actually my system uses three keys in total now in 'Version 2' (for a triple-boxer), but it allows for setting it up in a few seconds once and then be able to instantly switch Lead by switching character. I got myself a third account because of this.

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Originally Posted by OldRod_KS

This weekend, I tried 2-boxing Hammer Station with my Sage/Shadow combination. I've been able to do Heroic 2+'s with this combo on Coruscant and Taris, and could do some Heroic 4's before they greyed out. One Heroic 4 on Taris I was one level grey before I could do it.

Hammer Station is a level 17 flashpoint according to the quest log. At level 19, I couldn't even get past the first area - the 2 giant battlebots dished out too much damage. At level 21, I couldn't get past the first boss (the mining droid). At level 24 I could do everything except the final boss, but the flashpoint goes grey at 23 so I wasn't getting any experience for the majority of it.

Probably could have done it lower if I could keep the companions from breaking CC and could keep them focused on one target. I would CC one mob and immediately one of the Qyzens would do an AE attack and break it, then they seemed to change targets all the time... and on the final boss, he keeps spawning commandos to fight for him - the companions were all over the place.

I think with the pets under control and if I had my healing setup actually figured out, I could have done the entire zone at 21 or so.

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This is easily fixable. Go to companion abilities and turn off anything that is AoE. Downside is that they won't hold aggro on everything.