Unable to destroy Sam Deathwalker (yet)

a quest like the Cactus Apple, which you can get at level 1, give you 380x3=1140xp, for picking up 10 apples. (about 1 min total pick up time if you're killing mobs there anyway).
Note that this is a level ONE quest, and it would give you about 15% of your level TEN needed xp. Imagine what a level 10 quest gives.
Also note that there are a crapton of killing quests that do the same or better, without costing any time at all, since you're killing stuff anyway.

on top of that, quests give you rep with horde factions, which eventually will lead to lower repair, training and item costs, by 10%-20%

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Originally Posted by 'Sam DeathWalker',index.php?page=Thread&postID=184315#p ost184315

At level 10ish I kill like 4 mobs every minute (or faster) for about 320 exp X 5 toons per minute. I really dont see questing as doing any better. Its only been like one day of real time and Im at level 11 already.

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With RAF, you also get the bonus experience applied to quests. So, it is ALOT faster to quest than just simply grinding.

EDIT: This is why questing is ALWAYS faster that strait up grinding mobs:

Most quests involve you killing stuff (Kill x mobs)... which is what grinding is, but you get the bonus xp for the quest turn in, as well as the XP for killing the mobs.

Questing just gives your grinding a direction, and gives you more XP to boot! :D

and more money, and quest rewards, and direction to the next grinding zone, and a cool storyline ;)

I already tried to explain to sam that instead of killing random mobs he could kill the same mob for a kill quest and get so much faster but he's got to be the most obtuse wow player ever... I've now given up on trying to impart any experience...



ps: if you don't see me post it will be because stealthy threathens to ban me (because I asked privately why is it so bad to link screenshots in the screenshot forum - I guess you get what you pay for - A mostly great free community service but at the mercy of fiefdom powers and arbitrary censure)

No - you would be getting banned for sending abusive PM's. Learn to control your temper instead of carrying on like a 10 year old. - Stealthy

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Originally Posted by 'Moorea',index.php?page=Thread&postID=184346#post1 84346

I already tried to explain to sam that instead of killing random mobs he could kill the same mob for a kill quest and get so much faster but he's got to be the most obtuse wow player ever... I've now given up on trying to impart any experience...

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We have all already stated it before, but repetition is a good way to teach/learn ;-)

I have 50 quests done on most my guys ... I know what quests do.

I like killing mobs, not going from here to there, ya it is more efficient to do quests as to the mobs you are killing anyways but I note that Ill do the quests and still kill the mobs for days after I am done with the quests so ...

Im level 12, only 5 more levels to go shouldn't be a problem quest or not.

The thing I dont understand is everyone tells ME to quest, yet EVERY TIME someone ELSE posts about boosting or killing mobs to level none says a word about quests:

Pretty Fast leveling [[Boosting]]


Killing mobs in the open, if there are a ton of them available, is like instance boosting cept you don't lose the share of the exp that goes to the high level toon. When I kill with 26 guys I am instance boosting (but not in an instance) but I dont lose exp as all are the same level. Yes insance has 2X exp for elite mobs, but outdoor has unlimited firepower with help that dosnt cost you 80 percent or more of the exp per mob lol.

I do agree that with only 5 guys dungon boosting will go a lot better, but with 26 its a different story, assuming a ton of mobs. The pirate place in Tenis has so many mobs that they may as well be considered unlimited. And the scar in Ghostlands also has basically unlimited mobs for a single group of 5.

Also if you are going to instance boost you should use a level 50 not a level 80 .... if yur lowbies are like level 20 or so.

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Originally Posted by 'Sam DeathWalker',index.php?page=Thread&postID=184355#p ost184355

I have 50 quests done on most my guys ... I know what quests do.

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Already told you in game that 50 quests achievement on a level 47 is nothing to brag about (and doesn't mean you have any clues about quests). 50 quests achievement is something you would get at or before level 10 if not raf'ing and maybe at level 20-25 if you do. Alas you're content that you tried quests (the bad ones; collection quests) and that your insanely slow method is better... knock yourself out.

Likewise if you had leveled a pair - maybe your pally and something else - to level 60+ in about a week elapsed time - you could boost at least to some extend but hey... that would have meant taking advice... now you spent 2 RAFs and have nothing to show for it... congrats

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Originally Posted by 'Sam DeathWalker',index.php?page=Thread&postID=184355#p ost184355

The thing I dont understand is everyone tells ME to quest, yet EVERY TIME someone ELSE posts about boosting or killing mobs to level none says a word about quests:

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When you instance boost, Sam, you have a high level toon that goes and collects ALL the elite mobs of an instance and kills them in 10 minutes. All of them.
That's like 60-80 ELITE mobs. and it doesn't take more than about that much time since sometimes people actually get the 5 instance cap per hour thingy.

on top of that, you get bosses (higher xp per kill) and loot.

But obviously people are talking about groups of FIVE.
In your case, since you don't want to level groups of 5, but all 26 at the time, then your best bet is RAF'd quests, and killing mobs to and from those quests. Using QuestHelper and Tomtom you should be able to do the quests without even reading anything or knowing anything about the game., which should prove convenient for your herd ;)

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Originally Posted by 'Sam DeathWalker',index.php?page=Thread&postID=184355#p ost184355

Killing mobs in the open, if there are a ton of them available, is like instance boosting cept you don't lose the share of the exp that goes to the high level toon. When I kill with 26 guys I am instance boosting (but not in an instance) but I dont lose exp as all are the same level. Yes insance has 2X exp for elite mobs, but outdoor has unlimited firepower with help that dosnt cost you 80 percent or more of the exp per mob lol.

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You ever find those spots that give out150+ mobs in the space of a few minutes?

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Originally Posted by 'Zub',index.php?page=Thread&postID=184392#post1843 92

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Originally Posted by 'Sam DeathWalker',index.php?page=Thread&postID=184355#p ost184355

The thing I dont understand is everyone tells ME to quest, yet EVERY TIME someone ELSE posts about boosting or killing mobs to level none says a word about quests:

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When you instance boost, Sam, you have a high level toon that goes and collects ALL the elite mobs of an instance and kills them in 10 minutes. All of them.
That's like 60-80 ELITE mobs. and it doesn't take more than about that much time since sometimes people actually get the 5 instance cap per hour thingy.

on top of that, you get bosses (higher xp per kill) and loot.

But obviously people are talking about groups of FIVE.
In your case, since you don't want to level groups of 5, but all 26 at the time, then your best bet is RAF'd quests, and killing mobs to and from those quests. Using QuestHelper and Tomtom you should be able to do the quests without even reading anything or knowing anything about the game., which should prove convenient for your herd ;)

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I would definately have to agree with you on that.
Sam, at your level, you should be getting 20k plus exp from doing quests with RAF. Even if you insist on levelling all of your toons at the same time, picking up ONLY the kill quests would help you no end.