How are boxers doing currently in M+?

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Originally Posted by Purpleflavor

Healers (minus Mistweaver) are doing so much damage now when they dont need to heal, and tanks are self healing monsters.

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I have a 120 Disc Priest and given that this class needs to DPS to heal, I want to know if I should push on leveling a Shaman from 110 instead?

So far my 120s are
Priest, Warlock and Hunter.

Not sure about Warlock when it comes to M+ but it seems 3BM are highly favorable for mobile DPS

Based from YouTube DK seems to be favorable for 8.3 and Vengeance DH seems to be next. But can't deny the utility and multibox friendly of Paladin

Holy Paladin and Disc Priest got nerfs and Mistweaver got reverted. So I guess it's Shaman

lol at the intro of this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgeXAVaqbA8

I would try the disc priest if you already have it leveled. Another bonus is you have holy as an option as well, which for all intents and purposes should be pretty strong.
DK’s seem to go in swings compared to other tanks. When I used mine, perhaps my gear wasn’t the best but their health pool spikes a lot. Which is how they operate but it takes more focus compared to other tanks.

Not saying a shaman cant work, i dont know, but the M+ community hates them they seem almost non-existent, and they seem bad for raiding in 8.3. Then again, class rankings for boxing is a lot different than solo.

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Originally Posted by Purpleflavor

Not saying a shaman cant work, i dont know, but the M+ community hates them they seem almost non-existent, and they seem bad for raiding in 8.3. Then again, class rankings for boxing is a lot different than solo.

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What you posted earlier about this dude doing 20+ as prot paladin without a healer: I quickly went through his VoDs and 3 big nuances afaik:

1) he is not multiboxing
2) I only found him playing holy paladin and not prot
3) those guys are pretty much BiS

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Originally Posted by zenga

What you posted earlier about this dude doing 20+ as prot paladin without a healer: I quickly went through his VoDs and 3 big nuances afaik:

1) he is not multiboxing
2) I only found him playing holy paladin and not prot
3) those guys are pretty much BiS

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Yah, he doesnt box at all, i was just looking for possibilities and theorizing.

He's a healer about 90% of his playtime. So it makes it even more impressive to me that he is able to do it, really shows how easy yet strong prot pally is.
Search "Zmok no healer" and you'll get better results. Most of his No healer runs vary between 17's and 20's. He has about 6 vids on youtube and his stream vods probably have 50 runs.
https://www.youtube.com/user/PvPvidi...uery=no+healer

He doesnt raid outside of pugs, so he could definitely have much more optimal gear. He does try to get better gear, but pugs are terrible. He also plays so many alts he wastes time on too many characters. Last night he was 4th on dps as holy pally in his heroic pug. Definitely not out of reach for the average multiboxer.

Glimmer paladins are a bit OP right now and are getting a nerf in 8.3 (about 2 weeks)
It looks like a fun build has gotten out of control in terms of HPS and DPS for a fairly easy rotation.
If it wasn’t a melee build I would jump all over it.

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Originally Posted by Purpleflavor

Not saying a shaman cant work, i dont know, but the M+ community hates them they seem almost non-existent, and they seem bad for raiding in 8.3. Then again, class rankings for boxing is a lot different than solo.

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Maybe the Shaman love will come back given that tremor totem can cancel the mind control mechanic of 8.3

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9qMCljcZnc#t=4m38s

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Originally Posted by Diwa

Maybe the Shaman love will come back given that tremor totem can cancel the mind control mechanic of 8.3

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9qMCljcZnc#t=4m38s

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i would love for prot pally - 4 Ele to be a thing again. Actually excited hoping for classic TBC in a year or two.

I will most likely roll Vulpera Brewmaster + 3 BM Hunters + RShaman. Hope the Brewmaster nerf will not be that bad, at least I will have an option to switch to 4 range DPS and Monk healer too. Currently grinding my way to Vol'dun exalted

As a follow up on Resto Shaman. While it does contribute to DPS. The offset is that their healing is pretty weak. I tried a +8 with Grievous and it just wasn’t fun at all. I ended up stopping half way through on that run and knocked out a +6 on my Druids to ease the frustration.
I think Mistweaver monk pulls ahead on this affix since you have strong single target heals to top everyone off. Also this just may be an overall bad combo to win against. So I’m still at the drawing board for the best combo.