performanace of Ele shaman in 4.2?

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Originally Posted by Meshuggenah

If you actually go through world of logs and look at the the damage split between targets on each fight, the single target damage done to focus targets (the boss) is competetive. The inflated numbers other classes get are, in most cases, caused by cleave. There's no way a Shaman of any spec can keep up with Rogue cleave on Heroic Magmaw, Warlocks on Maloriak, Mages on Halfus. It's just the way classes interact with cleave.

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Top 200 parses are no evidence at all to prove the viability of a spec, because they are either the parses were rng was on your side, or they got dark intend / focus magic. They prove nothing. The only way that they are useful is to prove a spec is not viable: if you have #70 parse on fight A for your spec, and you are 6th on damage done in your raid, while others are nowhere near a ranked parse for their spec, it gives an indication.

The only viable data available are the simcraft results, which are theoretic numbers, and the collection of ALL world of logs parses, including the non ranked ones.

Like I said, on all single target encounters, ele shamans are near the bottom or at the bottom. It has nothing to do with cleave, since they are single target. I linked the data in question, so your claim that there is plenty of proof that ele is viable single target is simply crap (the more cause you use chimaeron, where there is a hit debuff). Maybe in your raid you are top single target, but that tells more about the others in your raid. (talking 4.1 btw). Just go to the site I linked and spend a few minutes browsing through the fights one by one, then come back and tell me again ele is competitive single target. Again, they contain ALL parses. And there are different ways to look at the data (all, medium, etc). They all give more or less the same result.

Ele died with the lich king.... maybe some day it will come back ><

How is enhance~

I noticed my enhanced shaman damage increased quite a bit in 4.2 comparing to pre-4.2. But he was not 85 yet.

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Originally Posted by remanz

How is enhance~

I noticed my enhanced shaman damage increased quite a bit in 4.2 comparing to pre-4.2. But he was not 85 yet.

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It did increase a lot, but not enough to make it viable to 2200 or anything in my opinion, at least in 5's.

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Originally Posted by zenga

Top 200 parses are no evidence at all to prove the viability of a spec

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I would prefer the realistic data provided by actual in-game combat of the top 10% of players to a combined log full of randoms, personally. Or to a simcraft calculation based entirely on stats with no input from movement or environmental/encounter effects. Especially when that log lists arms above fury, BM hunters above all mage specs, frost spec mages more than 10k DPS behind other specs.. I can see a dozen flawed results by clicking all DPS from my knowledge of comparative DPS alone.

That site is simply wrong. I assume it's wrong because it includes input from the bottom 90% of raiders, where there are a lot of bads to skew the numbers (myself included).

Got my ele shamans up and running today in AV. Dmg is semi okay I guess, but any target who gets focused by 1 healer is hard to kill, and thats when my team stands freely to cast. The upside of my shaman is the new glyph which makes you able to cast LBs on the run, really helpfull in chasing ppl, FCs and such, BUT has limited use in arena im afraid :/ After a few AVs I switched to my 4 BM specced hunters and pretty much lolwtfpwnd every alliance player. The difference is insane!! Sent 3 of my 4 pets to a holy paladin hiding behind a tower I was defending, and by only spamming Kill Command, I was able to make him bubble, and eventually die :D cant wait to gear up my hunters in full vicious and try 5s again.

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Originally Posted by Nikita

Got my ele shamans up and running today in AV. Dmg is semi okay I guess, but any target who gets focused by 1 healer is hard to kill, and thats when my team stands freely to cast.

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What's your gear like?

I can pretty much global people again with my 4 shamans and have been having a blast with them. With the new 4 piece bonus, fulmination hits like a truck and when i get 9 stacks, earth shock alone will one shot people. Really fun have a warrior bladestorm me and give me charges, target switching and killing someone outright with earth shock.

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Originally Posted by Toned

Ele died with the lich king.... maybe some day it will come back ><

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Ele died with the Ulduar patch actually. Ever since then it's been catch-up.

Ulduar patch, same gear, same fights, same group, 1-1.5k less dps

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Originally Posted by Alemi

What's your gear like?

I can pretty much global people again with my 4 shamans and have been having a blast with them. With the new 4 piece bonus, fulmination hits like a truck and when i get 9 stacks, earth shock alone will one shot people. Really fun have a warrior bladestorm me and give me charges, target switching and killing someone outright with earth shock.

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i got 8 pieces of S9 over the AV weekend

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Originally Posted by Alemi

What's your gear like?

I can pretty much global people again with my 4 shamans and have been having a blast with them. With the new 4 piece bonus, fulmination hits like a truck and when i get 9 stacks, earth shock alone will one shot people. Really fun have a warrior bladestorm me and give me charges, target switching and killing someone outright with earth shock.

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That's just freaking awesome LOL especially the warrior bladestorm deal