Quad Moonkin Arena

Xio had a few games where he melted my face off but once I saw what I needed to do in order to win I made it happen :)

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Originally Posted by Seldum

How about cyclone the healer?

if you where able to get close to the other team in stealth, i guess you could hurt them with treants and then hurricane (the cone aoe) followed by 5*moonfire+starfire. What should hurt.

But if you pop out, get feared... then that would suck :D

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You could be pretty nasty.

Approach from the back, in stealth/kitty.
Have a key for round-robin, set target as focus.
Once they each have a focus, press another key for Cyclone target=Focus.

You could really screw up the offense, with each healer out of it for a bit.
And then add your AoE stuff to the mix.

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Originally Posted by Fomeny

Something different actually came to my mind... I mean, this probably only works once on any team, if at all, but this might give the Moonkins an edge.. Only if you are Night Elves though ;)

Let's see, we have stealth, cat form
We have Shadowmeld - Off GCD Instant
We have starfall - instant

Let's mix this. I know - since I tried it - that when you activate starfall and use shadowmeld, you still deal damage to your opponents via starfall. Create a macro, that looks like this:

/cast Starfall
/cast Shadowmeld

And try it... This should put you out of cat-stealth, pop starfall and immediately put you into shadowmeld. I did not test this - but it should work ;)... Sure, you are not in Moonkin form with this, but it should still deal insane damage.
You actually could (assuming 5 Moonkins) place 4 in one spot and 1 in another. The 4 should be still in range to the opponents.. Now, pop the 1 out into Moonkin form - the opponents will spot it. Use starfall immediately after, and shortly after this the macro :D... The reason, why you enter Moonkin form first, with the 1 is simple - 5% more crit and survivability..

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I tested this and... It works! Better than expected!

I brought a PvE equipped DK from 27k hp to 0 without him being able to see me with the following macro (note: I have near best in slot ICC 25 normal mode equip)

/use {SP Trinket}
/cast Starfall
/cast Shadowmeld

I used the frost badge trinket with hit and on use-spellpower.

I also did some additional tests with a priest friend of mine. I told him where I was standing (in catform-stealth). He didn't see me when I was hidden, and he didn't see me activating the macro. So he basically took 16k damage (He has about 1.2k resilience) without seeing anything.

Have fun ;)

thats really cool, i must change ...

hmmmm

No, FOR THE HORDE ^^

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Originally Posted by Fomeny

I tested this and... It works! Better than expected!

I brought a PvE equipped DK from 27k hp to 0 without him being able to see me with the following macro (note: I have near best in slot ICC 25 normal mode equip)

/use {SP Trinket}
/cast Starfall
/cast Shadowmeld

I used the frost badge trinket with hit and on use-spellpower.

I also did some additional tests with a priest friend of mine. I told him where I was standing (in catform-stealth). He didn't see me when I was hidden, and he didn't see me activating the macro. So he basically took 16k damage (He has about 1.2k resilience) without seeing anything.

Have fun ;)

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Now I can post this where is belongs

Yep it works great prowl in range 36 yards then pop this. Sometimes they all die before they see a thing. Went from 0 to 1450 in one week. Cant seem to get past 1450 every other fight is win then lose.

If they don't all die pop out of stelth with 5 Typhoons and then moonfire spam the last guy or jsut wait for the one paly that remembered to bubble to have it run out then hes dead.

Pets, Preists stelthers are the problem. Pets sometimes agro even though im shadowmelded. Not always ( I tested this on my friends hunter and it did nothing) not sure why some pets agro and some don't. Preists seem to be harder to kill and don't die straight off. Then their Fear is the bane of my existance. Nerfs starfall and im out of control till dead. I havent got down the trink skill that fast yet. need more practice. 3rd Rogues that sap my main while I prowl. UGH then wipe. Preist, Rogue Pet in one group. I am done.

Pets do aggro because they are set to "aggro" or "defensive", well, meaning: If they attack the first target in sight, they will attack you in the split second where you are visible. (I call that 1 frame, where you actually would be visible) I had this once, where a mage randomly used mirror images. I pushed the macro and one image instantly fireblasted me out.

You could also go for some weird build, where you've got improved stealth in it, since you won't profit from anything else anyway. If you had some close calls, you could also get Survival instincts, since this also works in Moonkin form.

I think it's fairly easy to counter, once people know what's going on. Randomly running around pillars or other LOS objects hurts the damage output fairly hard.
So your best bet would be playing about 5 games a day, and not overdo it.

Another method may be, to stack Stamina/Resilience on one Moonkin and separate it from your group, then intentionally pop out into Moonkin form, activate all survival thingies. Basically play bait and maybe even interrupt the enemie healers from casting via typhoon while your other toons activate their macro.
+ You get the crit buff
- One Moonkin won't do too much damage

the tool tip dosn't say that Survival Instincts is useable by moonkin?

And doesnt Shadowmeld by deffinition take you out of combat so if a pet aggros for a frame then you meld shouldnt the pet deaggro untill you break meld?
Your blast example makes sense to me because you cant pull back a cast spell but a pet is different if its running at you then it should stop running right away. My friends hunter pet just sat there whether on aggresive or deffence.

I think i get too close and the pet runs to me then gets so close it sees me then keeps comming Many times the pet just stands there and dies but thats when im farther away.