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Honestly it looks like only multiboxers are interested in a real raid.. why dont we set up a 25 man multiboxer raid with maybe 2-3 solos? we have enough 5boxer who are well geared i think.. it would be worth a try and a lot of fun for sure :)
PS: pc problem solved, thx for your understanding.
Hmmm any updates?
yup i'l update very soon just been busy at work at the mo.
removed what i commented here as i have made some decisions for changes, i will update shortly
To be honest i was very excited with this whole affair, i've never guild raided before (well with a guild i enjoyed being in) and was looking forward to it. I very much doubt its going the 25 mans going to happen, so for me this means a guild change i think. I geared up all ready for the raid that never happened and im not wasting my gear or time, I will communicate through alts and I will be back when my shamans near 80.
Thanks For A Great Time
I'll speak to ya in game
Much Gratitude
-Holmeser/Murkage
Honestly I think the 25 man raid is more likely to happen than the 10man solo raid..
Im definitely in with my 5 chars (or less depending on how many solo chars are online):
Disc/Holy Priest
Destro Warlock
2x Ele Shaman (maybe respecc one to resto)
Tankadin (GS around 5k.. should be fine for the first tries.. He could respecc to Holy too if we have enough tanks)
Cmon guys lets do this :P
will be in touchQuote:
Originally Posted by Holmeser
ok what im going to do this week is see if we can get a 10 ot 25 man raid going with mix setups.
same time as last week, sat night 13th of feb 10pm server time.
if we havnt got enough for 25 man we will do 10man instead.
so please if your intrested in coming please turn up, i want to do onyx + another raid after so we are moving forward.
First thing, thank you very much for taking care of this. I am Gorgorotha/Rubhen from the GIMP and here's some thoughts and a few questions.
The guild isn't a multiboxing only as we all know but we're a lot of multiboxers here. The sudden growth is quite recent and as far as I can tell we're still suffering from growth aches (you know like some teens do...) and till everything settles down for good a lot will happen. By a lot I mean, there'll be people quitting, people leaving and some others will just find their space, fite cozy and nicely and those will be the guild's main tissue in the upcoming months.
That said, and in my own personal perspective, it's much more difficult to organize things with a group of multiboxers than with a group of solo players. Multiboxing is a "loner" thing in the essence, call it any other name you want though :). And putting together a bunch of loners is a hard task. I, for example started 10 boxing because I was really fed up of the raiding environment guilds offered and still wanted to raid...
By not means I want to discourage you and I'll gladly help in any way I can.
What would be good, would be to setup goals, step by step, work on a raiding flow. If it's not easy to get immediate performance with 10 people, imagine that with 5*2 or 3*3+1 or any combination.
S8 was for me 0 pve so I'm not really aware of how boxeable raids are nowadays. Back in my 10 boxing days, I 10boxed voa first boss but had to adapt and 8 box it with Dix (former dualboxer, now playing rogue in the guild). Same thing, I was able to 10 box some Naxx bosses but had to adapt my strategy and 8 box most of it and 6 box the last two. Same for Sartharion bla bla bla bla...
So, that said, I would even consider to start boxing:
1) VoA - to get the feel, for people to adapt for macros to be tuned up for raid environment, ... Both 10 and 25m
2) Naxx - Yeah, nothing of interest there for anyone, true but what an awesome training ground for the group...
Then, please start a thread discussing Ulduar, ToC, ICC(?), for those with raid (even solo) experience, what can be boxed in you opinion, what cannot and why, with links to the default strategy sites (wowwiki, or whatever) and how to adapt to a multiboxing environment.
I think that this is the hard way in terms of preparation but in the end raid results will be much better. The worst thing that can happen to a guild, a group, a raid is to go there with all the good will and motivation in the world and fail because people are just not prepared. Wow is a 80% gear dependant game but those other 20% are skill and preparation and that's what makes bosses easy or hard.
As an example of preparation, first VoA boss, when it first came out, I get my Pala+Shaman Group, all full heroism/heroic gear and my other group, dk and a few more casters all in nice shiny blues one one greeny here and there. I read all about the boss, I was damn prepared for the tank switch and all, I was running two healers (always did my 10 bow with it). I used every tactic I've read about and I always failed miserably. I was the first to 10m it so there was no tactic available here neither. So what I did was like the opposite of what 10m raids did, I packed my 10 guys at the feet of the boss, I healed over the aoe and I downed him at the first try. It was after like 7 wipes and the problem was I wasn't prepared. After I found the way to do it, it was a one shot 100% of the time. So that's why it's important to discuss it with people with experience.
Another example and I guess we all do have them, when 10 boxing Patchwerk, with the same group as above, every time I used 2 tanks I wiped because I had read about the need for it (remeber I was undergeared not overgeared for the instance :p). So, I started using just one and healers would just spam him and it was os 100% of the time.
Let's open a thread for 10-25m boxing strategies so we can discuss, share it with other people here, the way I did when i was 10 boxing.
Have a good day all
Great ideas and thoughts Gorgorotha :)
In the end I dont care if its 10 or 25man, if im multiboxing or soloboxing it.. I want to start raiding to see the end game content and as a sideeffect get to know ppl in the guild better.. Challenge is what Im looking for ;)
I think I have a lot multiboxing raid experience and I would like to share and discuss strategies of course..
I agree with Gorgorotha. I dont know if Onyxia is the best encounter to start raiding.. We might profit a lot more starting with some Naxx encounters to see how it goes (in case we are 25man raiding, 10man is something different of course)..
One thing Ive learned is that you need patience and some wipes to learn how the encounter works and what you gotta do to get the best results..