Focusless, targetless, 'leaderless' (FTL) setup.

currently atm i am not able to play during the week damn schools
bandwidth stinks so im stuck to reading this site over n over n over
again and trying to understand this thread cause this one sounds like
it would be awesome to be able to use for playing. Although im not new
to multiboxing this leaderless setup has me a little bit confused. Atm
i have key bindings on f8-f12 that they will switch and target that
player found problem sometimes they dont switch right so in instances=
wipes. Reading this i know sounds confusing what im writing but ill
try my best to break it down. I was looking at my keyclone keymap
editor ok i did on the key line i put as a key command lctrl+lalt+<
now the hotstring is the
??? and then where would u bind that long macro to cause it doesnt seem like it would fit i guess im really confused so anyhelp thru forum or private message would be awesome did it once with keyclone and he got me started on how he does it but i have been seeing this and how many people like it this way to say i need help ty.

hi,
well i'm a little bit short of time, so i like to only point you in the right direction ;)
Did you have a look on the wiki-entry of the ftl? (see my sig)
Perhaps have a look at the examples there to get a better impression what to do.

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I was looking at my keyclone keymap editor ok i did on the key line i put as a key command lctrl+lalt+< now the hotstring is the??? and then where would u bind that long macro to cause it doesnt seem like it would fit

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The target/cast macro should be bound to < ingame.

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Originally Posted by 'sactown',index.php?page=Thread&postID=154077#post 154077

Im new to dual boxing. Let me know a little bit about it. you can send an email sactown.916@hotmail.com

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LET ME SHOW YOU MY DUAL BOXINGS.

Sorry, but that's either spam (in which case, fail) or you're really lazy and posting in the wrong thread if you're new to all this.

Hey guys,

I finally got the chance to give the FTL system a serious look this weekend. I just want to thanks all those who put so much time into dreaming up and sharing this technique.

My own, very very minor, contribution is that replacing (or inserting just before) the "cast" command in the macros the following line was very helpful for finding all those stupid little mistakes during setup. It assumes that all your slaves and your main are already grouped.

/p %t

or if you prefer to be more verbose and have room in your macro...

/p My target is %t.

The wiki already described doing something similar to have the slaves declare who was leading, but I found this helpful in having the slaves declare their target. By completely replacing the cast line with this during set up, you can fire off the macros all day long and see what's going on without having to literally fight mobs while you're at it.

Also,

If there was a link to the FTL system from the main wiki, or even from within the "guides" subsection of the wiki, I couldn't find it...

Knobley

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Originally Posted by 'Araketh',index.php?page=Thread&postID=154082#post 154082

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I was looking at my keyclone keymap editor ok i did on the key line i put as a key command lctrl+lalt+< now the hotstring is the??? and then where would u bind that long macro to cause it doesnt seem like it would fit

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The target/cast macro should be bound to < ingame.

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Originally Posted by 'sactown',index.php?page=Thread&postID=154077#post 154077

Im new to dual boxing. Let me know a little bit about it. you can send an email sactown.916@hotmail.com

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LET ME SHOW YOU MY DUAL BOXINGS.

Sorry, but that's either spam (in which case, fail) or you're really lazy and posting in the wrong thread if you're new to all this.

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Ok i think im understanding this now more cause of your link then the keymap tutorial but one thing. Ok now to distinguish the leader can i put the modifier macro only on one button like the follow so say i hit alt shift q it makes them all follow and focus on that toon and then say for toon 2 its alt shift w to let the rest know they now follow that or do i hae to make all the spells have that same macro. As say my shaman wanted to cast lightning bolt on toon 1 does toon 2-5 have to have a macro do cast that spell or can they have the reg spell on the action bar. I dont know if thats clear enough but heres a lil more. As of right now each and everyone of my toons spells say /cast [target=focustarget] lightning bolt do i have to do anything like that on the toons or the modifier macro i put on my follow button take care of all that so i only have say three macros total my ftl macro invite and accept macros.

I've gave it a shot to this FTL setupyesterday, and I'm now benchmarking the swiftness of the macros, and the target change which is one of the major issue to me.

When I'm using the "Focus setup" with leader assigned by a key (which set the focus and made the clones follow their leader), there's an annoying 'lag' when casting... if I change my target and don't wait enough until I cast again.. whatever I cast (heal or harm spell), my clones won't EVER switch target as quickly as I am... I can understand that the ping and blabla but I was hoping that the FTL described here would be solving the major 'focus setup' issue : the lag on target change.. but it's not !!!
Targets seems to be changed quicker than with the Focus setup.. but not that much .. I'm disapointed...

Is there any trick around here to reduce to its strict minimum the lag on target change ?

Anyway, this FTL setup is harder to set-up, it blow ur mind when you set the ctrl/alt/shift but it's afterall an easyest way to quickly change the main toon .. I mean ... with the 3.0.3 and my focus setup, when the main died or lose its controls.. the clones also lose theirs .. they wait until I get control again on my main, and needless to say.. they are waiting for me to rez myself before continuing any action... which seems to be an solved issue with the FTL setup...
Thank you all ..
and, please forgive my faulty english :P

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Originally Posted by 'king.pa',index.php?page=Thread&postID=160490#post 160490

I've gave it a shot to this FTL setupyesterday, and I'm now benchmarking the swiftness of the macros, and the target change which is one of the major issue to me.

When I'm using the "Focus setup" with leader assigned by a key (which set the focus and made the clones follow their leader), there's an annoying 'lag' when casting... if I change my target and don't wait enough until I cast again.. whatever I cast (heal or harm spell), my clones won't EVER switch target as quickly as I am... I can understand that the ping and blabla but I was hoping that the FTL described here would be solving the major 'focus setup' issue : the lag on target change.. but it's not !!!
Targets seems to be changed quicker than with the Focus setup.. but not that much .. I'm disapointed...

Is there any trick around here to reduce to its strict minimum the lag on target change ?

Anyway, this FTL setup is harder to set-up, it blow ur mind when you set the ctrl/alt/shift but it's afterall an easyest way to quickly change the main toon .. I mean ... with the 3.0.3 and my focus setup, when the main died or lose its controls.. the clones also lose theirs .. they wait until I get control again on my main, and needless to say.. they are waiting for me to rez myself before continuing any action... which seems to be an solved issue with the FTL setup...
Thank you all ..
and, please forgive my faulty english :P

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The only thing I could think of hampering this is your actual internet connection.
Keep in mind that when you switch targets, you send a packet saying "I am targeting this now" to the Blizzard server.
The Bilzzard server must then process this, and send it back to your clones that "<main char> is now targeting this mob"

Once they get that message they can switch

This is f...g long ... it's counted on miliseconds... but it's really long...
thnaks for the heads up
i'm now looking into the way to heal my party using party1, party2 etc etc .. well... i'm not done yet :)

Keep in mind the /party1/2/3/4/5 targets change depending on the character (Or so I've experienced)


As for Focusless/targetless/leaderless....love it. But I dread making my other (two) teams run this setup.

Okay so now that i am recovered from the 17 page read (all of which is very good info but doesn't help me figure out my problem i don't think).

So i tried setting this up across my 5-man team and the problem that i am having is that the hotstrings are only being sent when two of the windows are focused. What i mean by this is i have five characters names are phort(main), phord(slave), phorc(slave), phorta(slave), and Phorb(slave).
Now if im focused of PIP'ed to phord the hotstrings work fine and broadcast to all the windows and my guys all follow phord. The same happens with phorb when he is my main screen i can get all the other toons to follow him. I just cant seem to get the keys to broadcast across with the other toons.

The way i have the hotstrings is as follows:

Phort:
1---->TT1
LCTRL+LALT+I------------>TT2
LSHIFT+LALT+I-------------TT3
LSHIFT+LCTRL+LALT+I----TT4
LCTRL+I------>TT5

PHORD:

LSHIFT+LCTRL+I---->TT1
1------------>TT2
LSHIFT+LALT+I-------------TT3
LSHIFT+LCTRL+LALT+I----TT4
LCTRL+I------>TT5

PHORC:

LSHIFT+LCTRL+I---->TT1
LCTRL+LALT+I------------>TT2
1-------------TT3
LSHIFT+LCTRL+LALT+I----TT4
LCTRL+I------>TT5

PHORTA:

LSHIFT+LCTRL+I---->TT1
LCTRL+LALT+I------------>TT2
LSHIFT+LALT+I-------------TT3
1----TT4
LCTRL+I------>TT5

PHORB:

LSHIFT+LCTRL+I---->TT1
LCTRL+LALT+I------------>TT2
LSHIFT+LALT+I-------------TT3
LSHIFT+LCTRL+LALT+I----TT4
1------>TT5

Like I said the problem that i am having is the "I" key being broadcasted to my chars when PHORT, PHORC, or PHORTA are the main. Any help with this issue would be awesome.