Mosg2's DK Manifesto

I usually had one guy go Blood spec to "tank" while the 3 Frost guys do dps. Tank is a word I use quite loosely here... I've had some success doing regulars with them ALL Blood spec. Vengeance makes for some ridiculous damage.

As an update:

I picked up the Conquest weapons yesterday morning and I have to say that these guys are fucking insane. I can melt any non-Mage in about 2-3 seconds with just my regular DPS button. Mages take a bit more work (ie, I have to hit Strangulate once first) but they go down just as easy.

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Originally Posted by Mosg2

I usually had one guy go Blood spec to "tank" while the 3 Frost guys do dps. Tank is a word I use quite loosely here... I've had some success doing regulars with them ALL Blood spec. Vengeance makes for some ridiculous damage.

As an update:

I picked up the Conquest weapons yesterday morning and I have to say that these guys are fucking insane. I can melt any non-Mage in about 2-3 seconds with just my regular DPS button. Mages take a bit more work (ie, I have to hit Strangulate once first) but they go down just as easy.

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Ya, I'm in the full honor set + conq weapon. I've stacked resilience, paladin is around 3.5k, DK's a little below that. I picked up the conquest weapon for my DK's tuesday morning as soon as CQ points rolled over and I go through people like butter.

Will you be able to upload any of these videos to You Tube? I cannot watch Justin.tv on my iPhone, and I have limited bandwidth through my main internet provider.

Watch the first video, and very nice job. I'll see what I can do about continuing to watch the other's.

Oh and I guess one last thing, I sifted through about 15 pages but I wasn't able to find any of your macro's.

Will you possibly welcome the idea of posting your layout for your macro's? I have a general idea from what Ualaa posted, but I would be very thankful if you can post how you have your stuff set up.

Cheers for this, great job mate.

That is a really interesting notion. 4 Blood Tanks and 1 Healer. 4x Rune Tap is pretty crazy no? :-)

I've got the next three days off and my plan is to A) finish my honor set, and B) do another Manifesto that quite clearly explains everything I do in an easy-to-follow video format.

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Originally Posted by Slats

That is a really interesting notion. 4 Blood Tanks and 1 Healer. 4x Rune Tap is pretty crazy no? :-)

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I leveled the DK's, quite a bit of the way with 5x Blood.

The Rune Tap every 30 seconds, is a sizeable heal.
The bloodworms from five DK's is pretty decent healing too.

Obviously the DPS is a lot lower.
But you have a lot of survivability in exchange for the DPS loss.
Death Strike, will heal for a fair amount too.

I was using a very basic sequence of Heart Strike & Obliterate, with Rune Strike as the fall through.
Chances are, that could be improved upon.
I like that Heart Strike hits three targets and is only a Blood Rune.
Obliterate was a Frost and Unholy, which probably isn't a great idea once we get Necrotic Strike.

I would think, with a dedicated healer, 4x Frost would be superior.
Or in instances 1x Blood, 3x Frost, 1x Healer.
But 4x Blood and a Healer would be a very decent option for instances.

4 frost worked out quiet well for me doing early wrath normals, however If I were to make the team a PVE team It would be much wiser in the long run to make one of them blood and build them towards tanking. I was able to just blow through the content usually with minimal loses but at times one would take a huge hit and then I would fall behind on healing.


@Mosq2 super, I would love to see some more info on your current healer the pally and possible some theory craft on the priest, if you have some time to throw that in there and are taking request. =)

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Originally Posted by ashlor

4 frost worked out quiet well for me doing early wrath normals, however If I were to make the team a PVE team It would be much wiser in the long run to make one of them blood and build them towards tanking. I was able to just blow through the content usually with minimal loses but at times one would take a huge hit and then I would fall behind on healing.


@Mosq2 super, I would love to see some more info on your current healer the pally and possible some theory craft on the priest, if you have some time to throw that in there and are taking request. =)

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Priest is viable for bgs, but bubble makes the paladin a bad target... in arena if you do not run with a paladin or something with a lot of cooldowns to keep them self alive then you're fucked. You get pain suppression + power word: barrier basically as an o-shit.

I just rafed a priest and wasted some time, but it's fine.

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Originally Posted by Ualaa

I leveled the DK's, quite a bit of the way with 5x Blood.

The Rune Tap every 30 seconds, is a sizeable heal.
The bloodworms from five DK's is pretty decent healing too.

Obviously the DPS is a lot lower.
But you have a lot of survivability in exchange for the DPS loss.
Death Strike, will heal for a fair amount too.

I was using a very basic sequence of Heart Strike & Obliterate, with Rune Strike as the fall through.
Chances are, that could be improved upon.
I like that Heart Strike hits three targets and is only a Blood Rune.
Obliterate was a Frost and Unholy, which probably isn't a great idea once we get Necrotic Strike.

I would think, with a dedicated healer, 4x Frost would be superior.
Or in instances 1x Blood, 3x Frost, 1x Healer.
But 4x Blood and a Healer would be a very decent option for instances.

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The only time I really would recommend 4x blood for instances is fights where you really should CC, but due to your group you cannot. Then you just zerg in with all 4 DK's as blood and let them fight for agro. This is also why I use DW when I run all DK's as blood. Worms are a chance to spawn per hit, DW = more hits. It isn't uncommon to see 10+ worms up when you are all DWing.

Timings?

Im interested in what the community thinks are the most efficient use of timings. I normaly use 1.5 to prevent overuse from spaming. What are you guys using for your ISBoxer Reset and Next Step timings for each spell?

Name NextStep/Reset

Chain 4/NA
Strangulate 4/NA
Death Grip 1.5/30
Howling Blast 1.5/NA
Mind Freeze 2.5/10
Hungering Cold 1.5/60