Follow in LFR is working.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chivalrous
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Follow in LFR is working.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chivalrous
Wow, the end of an era indeed... Well my friends, I guess this is it. The death of World of Warcraft as far as I'm concerned.
Thanks Washtana.. I have to consider now.. But I bet they might break follow in LFR eventually , lots of players just set someone on follow and get free loot.. :( I'm really bummed.
Wow, I was thinking of coming back on the recommendation of some friends to try 3 boxing, but not now. I never did PVP much, but I still liked doing an occasional battleground for fun. Actively breaking this, even if I never did it much, is a sign to stay away as they don't want boxers around.
Time to move on to other games then.
Just read this while at work... Maybe its time to look for something else to play... Pending a blue post on this issue.
P.s. does mirai get a prize for starting what may well be the most expensive post on these forums in income lost by blizzard? ;D
Just resubbed my 25 accounts yesterday :(
Probably heard it before but Blizzard will rue the day they put these clowns in charge of design. I'm frankly surprised anyone still subbed the game with all the horrid ground collects and the endless stream of dailies gating PvE progress. They want this game to appeal to the facebook crowd.
Hit them right where it hurts fellas. Easy for me to say I guess. I've been fully canceled for a while now.
Okay pause, is there a way we could control our guys in pvp without using /follow?
Surely we could come up with something that might work even better. Blizzard hasn't come out and said multiboxing is now against the rules or anything... Maybe we could still do it despite this if we get creative.
Remember before we had these programs? We thought of new things before, why not try again?
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Originally Posted by jebnarf
Maybe worth it to check IWT. Melee teams may not be screwed. Everyone else is though. Well... shit. Everyone actually is screwed. You need /follow for more than just following. Recovering from a fear bomb for example.
You might be able to set up something using multi-person mounts for movement, but then you are limited to 3 people unless you want to keep watching where the other toons are going.Quote:
Originally Posted by MadMilitia
Still, it is obvious they knew what effect this would happen when they did it, thus why it is only in battlegrounds and arenas. So even if another method is discovered, they could just break it also.
Most multiboxers knew the best way to stop multiboxing is to simply remove the follow command. You cannot effectively PvP without it.Quote:
Originally Posted by jebnarf
Yeah that was the first thing I posted earlier. Problem is when you want to move lond distance or around complicated spaces... example: you start out in WSG flag room, you move towards gate, turn towards it line up, move out it, move through other gate, mount... run at an angle to GY, drop down, head towards center or the tunnel/ramp entrance... somewhere in the middle you can start using IWT or CTM for distance travel if on broad cast...
Click to move maybe...? Something fancy could be done with it.
Sorry i just don't want to give up so easily.
Perhaps if we combined IWT and CTM in a unique new way.
Are there any items we could place down in front of us then interact with? Also the multiperson mount idea might work for 3 person.
If this change stays... what games are people going to try boxing in?
I was looking at the Free to Play, Everquest I for a while.
Didn't actually play the game, beyond logging three accounts in to see what I had.
From perusing the SOE forums, it looks like they're boxer friendly to a degree... but nothing like battlegrounds.
There's LotRO, Rift, maybe other games.
Haven't really looked at the others much.
I found something. Mount traveler's tundra mammoth on main, anything on alts. Target the vendor and use IWT across toons.
If you keep moving they will follow your main like normal in mounted zones.
This is pretty impressive. Only way to break this would be to make the vendors non interactive. O_oQuote:
Originally Posted by jebnarf
Thank you :]Quote:
Originally Posted by sdleelee83
Attachment 871He says its not intentional...
I popped in to whine about the glitches I've encountered today. They seem pretty insignificant next to the BG follow issue. That really sucks. I'd hate to see such a thing completely evaporate the multiboxing community.
Any thing on the twitter feed or another link to it?
That blue said /follow is not required to multibox. Uh, what?Quote:
Originally Posted by blahbalah
Wonder if i can get my money back from blizzard, im still within the 30 days of purchasing 5 new accounts
If you paid with a credit card you could always try a charge back if they don't play ball.
I may try a little experiment tonight, using a hot key to set screen , and then using click to move. I still don't like the idea though, as it is one more key click I didn't want to do LOL.
Ok, so I'm lazy.
5 symptoms of Stephen Being Lazy.
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Yeah, that is just insane. I did a face palm when I read that also. It makes me wonder, if they will allow a more liberal use of mouse broadcasters.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ughmahedhurtz
Worst news ever....
I don't have an us account so i can post, can someone post this 2 suggestions :
1- Allow follow beetween toons on the same battlenet (unlikely)
2- Allow follow, but when used, disable honnor gain for the BG (Yeah, it sucks, but at least we still can do bg, and potentials bots have no interest to use follow)
Btw, can we list all trickets/items that spawn a pnj that toons can interact with ?
Maybe, there is some usefull ability we can use ?
Tundra Mammoth is account wide ?
They are obviously not interested in discussing this change, if they were, they would have noted it in the patch notes and it would have been like this in the PTR.
IMHO it is really poor of Blizzard to make such a significant change with no notice. Follow has been an integral part of the game since release. (If they do this for PVE, I'm out.)
Maybe this is blizzards response to the bot detection system going haywire and suspending multiboxers, by getting rid of multiboxers out of BGs altogether. Seems the usual easy/lazy route Blizzard love taking when trying to solve an issue.
If this is really about getting bots out of BGs then it won't be long before they turn their attention to PVE. As some single toon players have asked in the forums"Why do we need /follow anyway?"
...I hope they change it again
Follow is broken on Tol Barad too ?
Well, all this is pretty disappointing. I have reactivated my accounts yesterday to be prepared for the patch today. Since I wanted to do some pvp this season I don't really see any use in those accounts now.
I called Blizz support and told them that I don't need my accounts if I can't play them in battlegrounds. The lady on the phone was very friendly and said that they would refund the money for the subscriptions within two weeks. So...if anybody else has just reactivated there is a high chance that you will at least get your money back.
Well I don't PvP, but seems to me the solution might be just park in the flag room and kill everyone that comes in. No need to follow anywhere.
But that might piss everyone else off enough they have to change things again.
This breakign doesn't stop you from joining BGs though, tempted to just join BGs and forward/strafe to move and get owned and make my team lose... EVERY game.
Apart from that, quitting mboxing wow now, 9 subs lost Blizz
Although I never was into PvP it won't be long before they make this change on the PvE side. The fact they did not mention it means they are not very worried about the consequences. Based on the size of WoW I am sure they have people on this site daily reading up on multiboxing and seeing the posts.
That said, there is probabaly a very small window where Blizz will wait to see what happens with this. For those who want to make an attempt at getting some sort of follow back in the PvP game I would suggest a focused, rational and calm effort to get it done.
Here are some ideas.
1. Make follow a pay service. Might not be appealing to many, but it would limit the bots doing it.
2. Qualify the boxers. Just like airport screening, look at the accounts, call the users and come up with a method to determine if they are bots or gold sellers, then leave the legit ones.
3. Limit follow to 4 characters or a full group of 5.
4. Make separate BGs and Arenas where follow is still active and give people the choice to join them or not.
5. Put some type of captcha on each screen that needs to be input every few minutes to assure no afk players.
There must be other ideas. I would be interested if Lax knows how many WoW ISBoxer accounts there are? Not an exact number, just a general idea. Are there 1,000 boxers or 10,000? If we each have an average of 5 (10 in my case) accounts how much money lost is that for Blizz? Is it really significant? Or a loss they are willing to take to get rid of boxing?
The real issue here is the entire multiboxing universe. WoW has always allowed it even though other games made it clear they did not want it. WoW has pretty much been the leader and company to follow. If they ban follow all others will too. There will be no reason to do it anymore now that WoW has gotten rid of it. All other games will follow soon and the ones who don't already allow it will start pushing it on the entire gaming community and gaming companies.
Anyway, there is a small window here to try to come up with a compromise. It should be a united, calm and professional effort. Otherwise it will just go away in a few weeks and nothing will be done.
Good luck to the PvP players. I know you put a heck of a lot of time in perfecting your teams.
Your ideas assume they removed follow to stop botters, but they (probably) didn't, they (probably) removed it to stop boxers in BGs. Too many people complaining about it.
6 - Allow follow beetween char using the same battlenet
7 - Allow follow in BG, but when we use it, we got no honor (so no interest for bots)
I think the last solution is the best. We wont get honnor and that sucks but still can play BG.
I had thought about that myself. Or going off an idea I had earlier, us having a huge sit in at the two main towns. Maybe some civil disobedience or the like.Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnGabriel
Stephen
Cross realm protest event ? :p
That could be a interesting idea.