Well, I got banned today, good-bye 4 mages, and mains. (Non Dual-Boxing Ban)

As far as bypassing the GCD - I spam arcane explosion, arcane missiles, pretty much any of the dps keys I have on my mages/priests like I'm having a siezure... I'd be curious to see how blizzard differentiated this from a macro set to repeat every 25ms since the time between the server getting this would be skewed by latency...

That said, I'm a firm believer that we don't see the full story here on the ban, as I read through this we went from a simple setup of 5 boxing with mixed account ownership to 5 boxing with mixed account ownership using scripting software in the past and currently running on non-supported OS configurations... something which blizzard has banned for in the past (and reconsidered after they did)...

Rimmel have you tried calling the support line? I once ebayed an account (which I do not do anymore, nor do I condone), a few months later the original owner took (stole) it back. I called the support line and tried my hardest to get it back, but couldn't. Either way the people on the phone were pretty darn helpful. The whole time I had to pretend I was the real owner. I'd try calling them, I'm sure they can help you. I've dealt with them a few times, and they are nice.

I too have 4 accounts with one account as a different name. Back in my ebay hayday I was buying and selling accounts (which I do not do anymore, nor do I condone) cuz I was bored. I wound up keeping two accounts. The aforementioned one was stolen back and I lost about $500. I still have the second one which I've been multiboxing with 3 other accounts without issues.

I'm sure it's a ticking timebomb to being banned, but whatever. I figure if I eventually get banned it will free about another $60/month, and will allow me to play other games again! I also am tempted to triple box Eve Online.

Until then I'll keep playing.

[quote='d0z3rr',index.php?page=Thread&postID=42857# post42857]Rimmel have you tried calling the support line? I once ebayed an account, a few months later the original owner took (stole) it back. I called the support line and tried my hardest to get it back, but couldn't. Either way the people on the phone were pretty darn helpful. The whole time I had to pretend I was the real owner. I'd try calling them, I'm sure they can help you. I've dealt with them a few times, and they are nice.[/quote]

/facepalm


Don't give the forum trolls any more nefarious accusations for the multiboxing community. Keep in mind our [url='http://www.dual-boxing.com/forums/index.php?page=Thread&threadID=1840']forum rules.[/url]

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[quote='d0z3rr',index.php?page=Thread&postID=42857# post42857]Rimmel have you tried calling the support line? I once ebayed an account, a few months later the original owner took (stole) it back. I called the support line and tried my hardest to get it back, but couldn't. Either way the people on the phone were pretty darn helpful. The whole time I had to pretend I was the real owner. I'd try calling them, I'm sure they can help you. I've dealt with them a few times, and they are nice.[/quote]

/facepalm


Don't give the forum trolls any more nefarious accusations for the multiboxing community. Keep in mind our [url='http://www.dual-boxing.com/forums/index.php?page=Thread&threadID=1840

forum rules.[/url]

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I use autobuff on all of may mains, one is a warlock, and I've never had it ignor GCD, id have to guess it was something else doing it :P

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Well it was som sort of buff addon XD

still it was rather werd, if youd acsidently stroke the scroll youd loose abotu 70% of your hp XD

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Many thanks. Keep in mind from a few "nice" threads on the official WoW forums that anything we say here can and does get read by people who would LOVE to see multiboxing disappear and will misquote ANYTHING we say in order to "convince" blizzard that we, as a community, are horrible cheating TOU-breaking individuals.

It's always best to be 100% clear thanks to our lovely forum troll lurkers.

V is right as usual. Right now the QQ'rs on the official forums have decided to make MBing the QQ of the month. In the past week or two I have seen ten times the number of "OMG MB = HAX" threads on Blizzards forums. And a lot of those include postings where some crybaby misquotes those that post to this site.

All it took was one "my account was banned" thread on here to add fuel to the "see they are all botters" on the official forums.

The great thing about this site is it is completely dedicated to playing by the book and keeping completely within the limitations of the EULA and TOU. Postings about being banned or discussions on such when the case is clearly due to something other than the fact that it was a multiboxer that got banned really aren't in the best interest of this community.

Just because someone with Red Hair gets banned from WoW doesn't mean that all Red Heads are botters, but to the QQers they feel that they can twist it so it would seem the case. To them we are the red headed step children. By the way I am red headed so I can make fun of other read heads, >wink<

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By the way I am red headed so I can make fun of other read heads, >wink<

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If that sketch is of you in your avatar... you must be red headed because your scalp got a sunburn.

BTW I am bald so can make fun of other baldies. >wink<

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By the way I am red headed so I can make fun of other read heads, >wink<

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If that sketch is of you in your avatar... you must be red headed because your scalp got a sunburn.

BTW I am bald so can make fun of other baldies. >wink<

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Technically I am bald too, but what little hair I do have is red, so does that mean I also can make fun of both red heads and baldies?

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Many thanks. Keep in mind from a few "nice" threads on the official WoW forums that anything we say here can and does get read by people who would LOVE to see multiboxing disappear and will misquote ANYTHING we say in order to "convince" blizzard that we, as a community, are horrible cheating TOU-breaking individuals.

It's always best to be 100% clear thanks to our lovely forum troll lurkers.

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Yeah, sounds like we need to make this forum a little bit more exclusive. Perhaps make the registration process a bit more restrictive. I'm not sure if it's enabled already, but disallow anonymous viewing.

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Yeah, sounds like we need to make this forum a little bit more exclusive. Perhaps make the registration process a bit more restrictive. I'm not sure if it's enabled already, but disallow anonymous viewing.

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It's a double edged sword. They quote our community forums without directly linking the post in question. When we multiboxers confront them and show the community the entire thread, it's very easy for us to prove the thread was deliberately mis-quoted.

Public forums are both a bane and a boon.

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By the way I am red headed so I can make fun of other read heads, >wink<

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If that sketch is of you in your avatar... you must be red headed because your scalp got a sunburn.

BTW I am bald so can make fun of other baldies. >wink<

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Technically I am bald too, but what little hair I do have is red, so does that mean I also can make fun of both red heads and baldies?

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Yes you can... but I would get those quips in while the getting is good. Once you loose all visible red hair you loose the right to make fun of red heads... and I don't think you want to walk around with the hair from down under showing just to make fun of red heads.

I'm a big fan of glass house...

We live in a glass house, we police people who admit they have in the past violated the ToS willingly for discussing it and keep on top of policing any posts that promote it and it's all good.

Everyone knows someone who's e-bayed an account, or taken one over for a friend, it happens and it's by far not limited to multiboxers. In fact I'd wager that due to the number of boxers who value their accounts multiboxers are LESS likely to cheat than anyone else - we have more to lose (4x the effort on average.)

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I'm a big fan of glass house...

We live in a glass house, we police people who admit they have in the past violated the ToS willingly for discussing it and keep on top of policing any posts that promote it and it's all good.

Everyone knows someone who's e-bayed an account, or taken one over for a friend, it happens and it's by far not limited to multiboxers. In fact I'd wager that due to the number of boxers who value their accounts multiboxers are LESS likely to cheat than anyone else - we have more to lose (4x the effort on average.)

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If I had thought of multiboxing BEFORE I stupidly ebayed accounts, I would have NEVER ebayed an account. I just had no idea Keyclone existed! But it's no excuse, and I learned my lesson - the hard way.

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Yeah, sounds like we need to make this forum a little bit more exclusive. Perhaps make the registration process a bit more restrictive. I'm not sure if it's enabled already, but disallow anonymous viewing.

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It's a double edged sword. They quote our community forums without directly linking the post in question. When we multiboxers confront them and show the community the entire thread, it's very easy for us to prove the thread was deliberately mis-quoted.

Public forums are both a bane and a boon.

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Anonymous viewing is a bad thing IMO. What we do is above board and legal... doing it in the dark would give people the wrong impression.

Misquotes are easily handled in the manner described by Vyndree. What we as a community need to look out for is posting things in such a way that they CAN be taken wrong. This falls on each of us individually.

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Yeah, sounds like we need to make this forum a little bit more exclusive. Perhaps make the registration process a bit more restrictive. I'm not sure if it's enabled already, but disallow anonymous viewing.

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It's a double edged sword. They quote our community forums without directly linking the post in question. When we multiboxers confront them and show the community the entire thread, it's very easy for us to prove the thread was deliberately mis-quoted.

Public forums are both a bane and a boon.

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Anonymous viewing is a bad thing IMO. What we do is above board and legal... doing it in the dark would give people the wrong impression.

Misquotes are easily handled in the manner described by Vyndree. What we as a community need to look out for is posting things in such a way that they CAN be taken wrong. This falls on each of us individually.

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I agree with Monkey. It is best off leaving things in the open so people see we are not doing anything wrong. That being said we do need to continue to argue that EULA and TOS are 100% to be followed and for those that do not wish to do so, and that wish to be fridge multiboxers are not welcome in this community.

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FYI: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/th...sid=1&pageNo=1

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Hum...

Am I misreading (not being a native english speaker) or the immediate response from the Greenie Palehoof to the OP still brings back some uncertainty for software-based multi-boxers ?

I quote :
"In fairness, one player operating more than one character on more than one computer is not, so far as I know, a bannable offense.
The 3rd party software or hardware many people use to do so, however, is. "

Note : not sure how official is a Greenie vs a Blue statement by Blizz rules.

/salute

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I'm a big fan of glass house...

We live in a glass house, we police people who admit they have in the past violated the ToS willingly for discussing it and keep on top of policing any posts that promote it and it's all good.

Everyone knows someone who's e-bayed an account, or taken one over for a friend, it happens and it's by far not limited to multiboxers. In fact I'd wager that due to the number of boxers who value their accounts multiboxers are LESS likely to cheat than anyone else - we have more to lose (4x the effort on average.)

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If I had thought of multiboxing BEFORE I stupidly ebayed accounts, I would have NEVER ebayed an account. I just had no idea Keyclone existed! But it's no excuse, and I learned my lesson - the hard way.

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See the problem here is that the Dual-Boxing community does not support ebayers wither they are boxers are not. By admitting that you have 'ebayed' accounts you are actively admitting that you have chosen not to follow the EULA. People can make honest mistakes but ebaying an account really doesn't fall under an honest mistake. By posting anything about ebaying an account you are reflecting bad on the community even though you didn't mean to.

You can't assume that MB haters will separate the fact that your ebaying accounts was not related to your multiboxing. Instead all they will see is "OMG see here they are admitting to having ebayed accounts." It is that type of thing that everyone wants to avoid. Just because someone in the community once ebayed an account should not reflect on the entire community but unfortunately for us it does.

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FYI: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/th...sid=1&pageNo=1

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Hum...

Am I misreading (not being a native english speaker) or the immediate response from the Greenie Palehoof to the OP still brings back some uncertainty for software-based multi-boxers ?

I quote :
"In fairness, one player operating more than one character on more than one computer is not, so far as I know, a bannable offense.
The 3rd party software or hardware many people use to do so, however, is. "

Note : not sure how official is a Greenie vs a Blue statement by Blizz rules.

/salute

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Greenies are just people that volunteer to help be hall monitors so to speak. I would never take their word the same was a a blue. Pretty much Greenies are just people that Blizzard has a little extra faith in making valid postings, but I wouldn't place anything they say as being completely valid. I would ALWAYS go with what blue(s) say.

Players in the barrens seem to fit into 4 categories.

1. I'm jealous of you and there for hate you. Chuck Norris Rocks!
2. OMG, how do you do that? (let me ask 100 questions.) wait!
3. I've seen it before, that is pro.
4. I'm to lagged out to see you.

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FYI: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/th...sid=1&pageNo=1

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Hum...

Am I misreading (not being a native english speaker) or the immediate response from the Greenie Palehoof to the OP still brings back some uncertainty for software-based multi-boxers ?

I quote :
"In fairness, one player operating more than one character on more than one computer is not, so far as I know, a bannable offense.
The 3rd party software or hardware many people use to do so, however, is. "

Note : not sure how official is a Greenie vs a Blue statement by Blizz rules.

/salute

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Greenies are just people that volunteer to help be hall monitors so to speak. I would never take their word the same was a blue. Pretty much Greenies are just people that Blizzard has a little extra faith in making valid postings, but I wouldn't place anything they say as being completely valid. I would ALWAYS go with what blue(s) say.

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QFT additionally I guess the misunderstanding, if that is the right word to use, comes from the fact that the OP is talking about 3rd party software. I assume the greenie believed him to actually be referring to 3rd party software (automating software), whereas the OP was intentionally trying to slander Mboxing by saying keyclone (non-automating software) is 3rd party software that automates..
I don't think the greenie meant to say anything other, just got tied up in the OPs misrepresentation

I've noticed that the OP is a flamer.. he instigates and flames in several posts.



edit: clairification.. the OP from the wow forums that was referenced earlier.

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Players in the barrens seem to fit into 4 categories.

1. I'm jealous of you and there for hate you. Chuck Norris Rocks!
2. OMG, how do you do that? (let me ask 100 questions.) wait!
3. I've seen it before, that is pro.
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LOL... I don't think it's limited to Barrens. :rolleyes:

To be honest I think the reason why is you have already been suspended once. Players with a history are watched, seeing something out of the norm, their not going to be open minded. Just hey look this isn’t right look what he’s up to now! *whack with the ban stick.

Look at some of the 3rd party program user forums such as popular bot programs, there’s a pretty distinct track record for them getting baned for something stupid on there new account after being banded before, or in your case suspended once.


Not the answer you want to hear, but something to consider as a possibility

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As far as bypassing the GCD - I spam arcane explosion, arcane missiles, pretty much any of the dps keys I have on my mages/priests like I'm having a siezure... I'd be curious to see how blizzard differentiated this from a macro set to repeat every 25ms since the time between the server getting this would be skewed by latency...

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Because they don't check it server side. You have a nice little monitoring tool sitting right on your PC called Warden.

EDIT: And they could be monitoring it through your client as well pretty easily.

Still waiting on an email from Blizz ?

Still no update? Im curious whats up.

Well it seems like the guy died? I didn't know Blizz was that harsh :P

Still no response. I'm guessing the guy was doing something shady and may be embarrassed to admit what it was.

I originally thought he was one of the wow forum flamers setting up the post here to fuel the fires there, but his (non dual-boxing ban) kind of killed that idea. :thumbdown:

I'm gonna force this thread to die now.

Please PM me or any member of staff if you have an issue.

Regards.