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Originally Posted by Smoooth
Holy crap I didnt know you get xp for the commanders! Bah, and here I was ignoring them.
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Originally Posted by Smoooth
Holy crap I didnt know you get xp for the commanders! Bah, and here I was ignoring them.
At 73 I'm still getting 18k exp per Tower/Bunker/Galv, which is pretty awesome.
The biggest flaw I can see for the current system is the fact that you get exp regardless of what you do. Unfortunately it's a double-edged sword. If you put a range on it, the 2 sides would just all travel in a giant mob and there would never be any Defense, but currently at any given time in my Battle group, there's about 1/5 of the raid that are always at the bottom of the charts with 0 damage, 0 healing, and a lot of bonus honor and exp.
I've found that AV is a great supplement to forming instance groups too. The leader does his job at getting the rest of the group (usually a tank and/or healer), and while he's doing that, I just hit up AV. As long as I'm there for at least the Galv kill, it's like doing a bunch of quests in a matter of minutes, and when the group fills, I can just /AFK and already be at the summoning stone ready to help summon.
When exactly does this XP kicks in ? When they arrive safely back to your base ? (as I don't think you get anything by just the dialog "go go go...") or worse only after the turn ins to get aerial assault ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Smoooth
Also does summoning the Ice/Forest Lord yield any xp ?
ref: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/pvp/b...s-alterac.html
nothing to see here...
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Originally Posted by Saithe
18kxp aint so hot, considering quests at this level give 20-25kxp. =(
That's for every tower, and belinda, and another 25k for the boss kill or win. In 15-30 min, repeatable, and no collection quests or travel time. It's still under 6 hours a level no matter how many toons you got. It's a lot faster and less painful than I remember leveling my 5 toons to 80 by questing/instances. And I'll have PVP gear when I hit 80 :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Multibocks
I've got 3 levels and 1 piece of PvP gear (and will soon be getting another) in the past day. Gotta love it.
That must've been a loooong day. I got tired after getting a full level in about 5 hours. I'm going to work on it monday. Thanks Labor Day!Quote:
Originally Posted by Saithe
71->74 today ~ 8 hours played. Alliance is on fire! For once...
I tested this last night. I sttod in the opening of the cave on my 75 warrior and YES, i got xp for taking the towers. Every one that capped i got xp for. I often seen points for player kils too. im assumiong they were from players running into our bases and getting owned since its right at the bottom of the hill. So ya, you can get capping honor and the galv and drek honor from the starting area.
Until people report you as inactive.
I was looking up AV and que (premade) and found this (might be old) - just to funny not to post:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMmGN8gHLfs
"This is...impossible with a server full of tards."
Don't I agree.
And yeah, don't just AFK through games, it hurts your team because so many people do it already, which only causes your team to lose and slows you down.
after this weekend I averaged around 5 hour levels so what is that like ~200ishk an hour. Not very good but better than anything else.
5 hour levels is ~300k/hour or more at 70+ as levels are in excess of 1.5m XP.
The thing about AV tho isn't so much the speed, more the convenience. Tho i've seen 700+k/hr on winning streaks. Problem is, it's possible to get 0 XP if your team really fails. So I find myself going /afk and waiting out the 15 minute debuff when it looks a 50 min AV fighting at the choke points is inevitable.
The only reason I do only AV to level in the 70s is that you end up with 3 pieces of deadly gear when you hit 80. Not too shabby. I just need to learn to AFK out if horde has a defense going.... seriously 15min debuff is not as bad as 1 hour turtle.
p.s. dont forget to do the insignia quest (trinket from AV that has 4 versions) it will give you about 100k free xp when its all said and done. Well worth the trip to Tarren Mill.
I've found some of the longer AV's to be the most fun.
Okay it slows levelling down, but I love big battles - and the encounters help me get better on my team.
Mind you I am one of those annoying turds that won't stop trying to the bitter end.
I got grief recently coz I admitted to wiping the alliance on Drek'thar.
I thought it was funny - yet they just wanted to lose and get on to the next match.
I mean it's, all very well getting honour and XP but you gotta have fun too.
I've been in enough BG's where we've won against all the odds to make it worthwhile.
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Originally Posted by Akera
5 hour levels are still quiet the grind. At least they seem like it too me. I have only been playing one toon so no turning the tide by myself.
I took a paladin from level 73 to level 77 sunday/monday. I am getting excited about the paladin getting close so then I can start doing heroics again.
I found that there is a little trick with Stonehearth Bunker. You can go in right behind the alliance flag and cap it without killing any archers. This really helps when you are level ~73 and can't do jack to help out.
There were several runs that I am pretty sure I got no xp so that does suck. I have been having fun going and taking mines by myself (actually helped us win a couple). Just a word to the wise just b/c you can level in AV doesn't mean it is going to be easy. Looking at 5 hours a level then you are looking at ~45 hours of playing AV. This can get old pretty quick. I am pretty sure I couldn't stand all the verbal abuse that one gets in AV for boxing.
LoL Im having a blast, I do my normal exp pulls at Black Temple while queing on my paliden then enter with just the Pal. Im 70 and a prot pal so I have more HP then anyone it seems. Or if someone attacks me with world pvp at the BT (level 80s only) I just keep everyone else in ghost and go to the AV with my Pal. Its fun so its not "grinding", can pvp all day for a level so what?
Ya I don't get many kill shots but I do a lot of damage (run into the enemy consecrate then bubble out heh), and I get to tank the boss mob.
Horde does the exact same thing every time, run to the tower kill mini boss, run to next tower, kill mini boss, fight across bridge kill big boss ....
Horde went 5-0 yesterday but I think we lost the last game which closed up at 3 am before it was done. I got like 4000 (3000 yeasterday about 600-700 each win) honor and 24 tokens or something I don't know where they are.
What are you guys talking about AFK? You here to play the game? If you are here to play then play to win not play to watch TV lol. A few more guys can turn the tide at the right time. Everyone can contribute to some extent but I guess if you are 71 agaist full gear 80 then well ....
Yea 5 hour levels is a long time, but 5 hours is towards the bottom of the scale... I've been doing 3 hour levels roughly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Schwarz
It all depends on what you enjoy. AV might not be the fastest at times, but for me it's the least painful. No running between zones, no dealing with a collection quest in the middle of your chain. I just log onto wow, que up and go. If we're losing consistently I come back later.
So just do what you enjoy. Personally, AV is the only reason I'm going to have more than 3 80's. Doing the Northrend quests 3 time (yes I solo leveled them) was painful... I don't think I've got anymore left in me!
If you are only leveling up 4 characters and have one 80 already AV is usually a win for you. Holding IBT or tanking Galv with no heals can make a huge difference. I find most horde attack my 80 first because they think he is the highest threat when really 4x Crusader Strike and 4x Divine Storm is a lot of damage on one person. I went 12-2 today with the losses being due to the WHOLE horde showing up to Galv and defending. Those ones I should have afk'd out of because they took forever to lose. =(
P.S. Hitting 80 and having 3-4 pieces of PvP gear waiting is awesomesauce.
Anyone know the percentages of XP gained in the 61-70 bracket and if they're the same? If they're identical I would imagine it being the same amount 5-6 hours per level in the 60s which is quite slow. As burned out as I am boosting BC instances and UK, they still need 3-4 levels each to hit 71 and 6 hours levels in the 60s is just a waste of time.
Also, am I right that the XP for the 61-70 bracket does not scale properly for level 70? I coulda sworn I was still only getting like 5-6k experience on my 70s per objective rather than 18k...which would make 70-71 like a 15 hour level easy.
I know, it's really awesome. Worst thing on both of my groups I've leveled to max (one to 70 and one to 80) is after that terrible grind, you've got several more days of sitting in AV before you have any gear at all. That grind will be half way done immediately :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Multibocks
Plus, most heroics were super easy even when my shaman had nothing but hateful gear, no pve stuff at all. Now that I have a geared tank, if I decide to do heroics with the new group, couple of crafted pve pieces + deadly gear and it's a breeze to farm marks and get the real stuff.
I get 18k exp for a tower cap at 73. And about 7% or 8% of level if our side wins. 3 or 4 % if we lose. I love it. Plus I am getting honor like crazy.
Yeah I tested out the 61-70 bracket and the xp was downright AWFUL. One win and only 2%ish xp? Get outta here with that bunk.Quote:
Originally Posted by heyaz
Ugh tonight has been awful, horde has some arena equipped groups in all my AVs. I cant seem to dodge them. 0 xp and I even /afk'd out of a bunch. Makes me want to punch kittens.
Horde his kicking butt on Bloodlust, in the 70 bracket. I'm like 19-4 and 3 of those loss were games I didnt start in. Just hit the 71 bracet (I am only running one toon my paliden) and got a lot of honor and exp even though I didn't contribut much against all the 80's ....
Not really sure if I should try:
4 mage 1 pal
5 mage
3 mage 2 shaman
4 shaman 1 pal
5 shaman
I dont like using blizzard so thinking i could fire spec 4 mage (and 1 pal to pick up incoming melee) and strike from afar. But someone did well with 4 shaman in the 70 bracket also. With the Pal I go out on the kill Blenda and Van route, maybe with a 5 box team I should play defensive as thats what they seem to do but I like where the action is at the spearhead.
This is great fun its like not grinding at all. Then I go back to BT do a pull with 22ish mobs and get in the next que lol ...
I'm in Bloodlust (Alliance) also, after an hour in the 70's bracket on my level 60's toons I never went back.
71-80 bracket seems to be about 50/50 in the sense that one day you win 90% the following you lose 90%.
61-70 is trash. Aside from crap for XP, the queues are longer and there are more season 2 twink 70s than you'd think. Best bet is to go to UK and boost there at 65 and then hit AV at 71.Quote:
Originally Posted by Multibocks
The honor is insane at the higher bracket too, 1437 lifetime kills and 55k honor at level 77 on my DKs. Only 96 AV marks and I win more than I lose.
- Souca -
I started taking advantage of AV ( I love it anyways) and went from 75 to 77 today. I did the ness quests in scholo but the rest was AV for the most part. Incredible.
Just an FYI, the DKs hit 80 tonight. From 74 on it was pretty much AV with some quests thrown in to open up areas like Shadow Vault and do some Argent dailies starting at 77. Deadly gloves and shoulders plus 20k honor, so all in all it's a win scenario. If I had quested, I'd still have to do AV to grind out the honor. Now I have almost all of Northrend to quest for money if I get bored of dalies.
Also, Army of the Dead times 5 will rake Galv to 50% before his whirlwinds kill them. One healer and you are good. Better gear will remove the need for a healer, but I'm only sitting at 17k right now, so those hits can hurt.
Feel bad for the lowbies sometimes. Most of them die before they even land from the Death Grip. Pallies are getting easier with a well timed Strangulate since they generally don't worry until 35% and if they don't bubble fast enough I can usually burst them when the Obliterates start to hit.
Bah, I'm babbling now. I need sleep.
- Souca -
Yea my most fun is my locks and 3 times fel hunters. Pallies dont stand a chance now and if i put in a shadow priest they really wont lol. Just dot times 25 felhunters stun and interrupt then i do the death coil round robin becuase you know hes gonna try anything to get out of it. So with 1 after the other hes screwed lol and even if he pops bubble he cant kill me 5 times fast enough before his bubble wears. Since i do drain life from a buddy of his lol. He sees his buddy going down starts to heal not knowing hes healing me while i wait for his bubble to go bye bye.
Gratz on 80 Souca. Hope fully i will get to play more than just one game with you.
I'll definately be playing them in AV more. It's pretty much the reeason I leveled them, that and to *finally* have a team at 80. That said, I might have to take a day off from them. Too much AV and my tolerance for QQ and losefasters is low. Plus I wanna go back and spread some love to my three shammies that are still 72. Plus it will nice to be at range and not running around in little circles getting dizzy for a bit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marathon
So if my DKs aren't in AV, my shammies likely will be. Just look for the guild tag, only my characters are in <Internal Bag Error>.
- Souca -
You are like the only other multiboxer I see on a regualr bases in AV. I could be 80 by monday i think. I have a three day weekend. But i started playing some WSG and AB last night and actually kind of liked it. I was not super succesful, but i had fun. So who knows.Quote:
Originally Posted by Souca
But yeah i will keep an eye out for you. Oh and hell yeah 7 times (my 4 shammies and your 3 ) chain lightning would be awesome HAHAHAHAHA !!!!!! :D
Haven't been sleeping well lately so I've been playing weird hours. For some reason ally was losing at 3am, so I went over to my baby horde lock (72), and suddenly ally win three in a row, I mean creamed us, almost perfects. So I figure it's a good time to start the shammies. Lose four in a row, including a nasty Mal'Ganis premade. WTF? Am I cursed. Switched back to horde and I've been winning. I think being able to switch sides when the other is winning will either keep me sane, or cause me to lose it altogether.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marathon
P.S. The baby lock is Kelindriá, so please be nice and let her kill you ;)
- Souca -
I got to level 71 on my team last night so I went to AV as I thought - Maybe it'll be easier this way for leveling... 3 hours later I'd gained 4 bars of xp. Some bad luck I had it seems :(
It comes in waves. On Stormstrike there are waves of two or so hours where one side just dominates. On weekends during sane hours Horde wins 75%, but other than that its back and forth. The trick is to learn when your side wins and play then, when you aren't winning, do some quests to pay for training.Quote:
Originally Posted by Monkofdoom
- Souca -
So, my first team hit 80 last night. The moment I hit 71 I started doing AV and did nothing but. In total it took 138 game to hit the bit eight-zero. Won roughly 50% of them but its hard to say because I /afk'ed out of a few turtles.