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Why couldn't this have just stopped there? If you know what's going to happen, why ask? Here's the deal: You're going to attract attention and if the GMs see that the accounts being multiboxed don't belong to the same person, they all get banned. Done deal. Don't try it.Quote:
Originally Posted by 'segfault',index.php?page=Thread&postID=73332#post 73332
If I had to make a guess, I would say that Blizzard would almost certainly take action against your account(s) under this scenario. The way they see it, if you play another person's account under any circumstance, it's a violation of the rules. This avoids them having to judge whether or not you're telling them the truth about your friend's permission and cooperation (after all, how do they go about verifying this?). Blizzard takes account ownership extremely seriously, and so they take a very strict black-and-white approach to dealing with it.Quote:
Originally Posted by 'cepheus',index.php?page=Thread&postID=73385#post7 3385
Edit- Sorry ceph, for some reason I confused your question with the OP's. My above comment is directed at the OP.
However, in regards to letting a friend play the account for a short time, it's a ToS violation according to Blizzard. The likelyhood of you getting caught and actioned is very small so long as this occurs within a computer or computers that you typically use to access WoW (ie, they would assume that it's you playing your account, not someone else). I think it's an issue like what I described, that because of the way they consider account ownership they don't take any chances at all and are very strict in interpreting what is a violation.
Don't share accounts. Ever. It is simply not worth it. Even less so when you are multiboxing and have a higher profile and higher likelihood to be noticed and banned.
Also, asking a GM is not necessarily a good idea. If you are already doing what you want to ask about and say that, you just reported yourself. Otherwise you just flag your own account for attention.
Talking about using someone's else's account also does the trick. You know that Blizzard logs everything. If your buddy Bob says in whisper or whatever chat channel that he is using Joe's account, that can show up on a straightforward query and let Joe's account be investigated and closed. Just reward for being stupid and then shooting your mouth off about it.
Blizzards policies are clear and publicly available on their website - with many examples. They wont change just because you pretend they are not there or that you didn't understand them.
http://us.blizzard.com/support/artic...rticleId=20460
To have absolutely zero ambiguity with my accounts, I bought four more copies of WoW and four more copies of BC and never looked back. The joy of having a white vest, for the same monthly fee. I don't get how someone can not go for it. ?(
[quote='cepheus',index.php?page=Thread&postID=73491 #post73491]As I can see here, it is sharing your account information that is against the ToU, nothing about another person sit down at your computer for a limited amount of time when you are allready logged in. [/quote]
In correct. [url='http://us.blizzard.com/support/article.xml?articleId=20576&searchQuery=account%20 sharing&pageNumber=1']Account sharing[/url] is simply that -- you are sharing your account in the circumstances you lined out above. It doesn't matter who logged in.
http://us.blizzard.com/support/artic...0&pageNumber=1Quote:
Originally Posted by Blizzard
In general...
It is your account (that is, your name is listed as the account owner).
If at any point someone other than you is using your account, it is considered account sharing.
Account sharing is against the terms of use.
Anything against the terms of use can get you banned.
Sometimes people sneak around "under the radar" and miss getting banned, but that does not mean that they cannot, will not, or should not get banned.
We're edging very close to breaking our Community Guidelines so I'll end this by saying that the dual-boxing forums aren't necessarily the best place for clarifying what is, or isn't against the blizzard terms of use.
If for any reason the definition of "account sharing" is unclear to you, your best course of action is to either ticket a GM or post on the official Customer Service forums
Ok, I think I throw in the towel here, and just apologize for my posts. It was not inteded that my bad joke (let the OP's friends pay for his accounts) should start a full blown discussion for what is and isnt considered a violation of the TOU
I have never shared my logininfo with anyone since I started playing wow during the open beta. I am just admitting to letting *once* a friend try my 5-box rig for *one* time. If admitting this is so close to the edge of this forum's guidlines, I apologize for any harm this have come to the community.
That beeing said, I was more concerned about my reputation as a bad pvp-multiboxer than beeing banned at the time, as my friend never had any expirience with multiboxing :)
I should also clarify that I am in no way supporting accountsharing, and hope that everyone that read my posts understand that. If you cant pay for your own accounts, you should probably be more intressted in earning money than playing wow anyway.
So, three college roomates set up three WoW accounts under one roomates name/credit card. Using a network from the dorm/apartment, the three accounts are logged in and multi-boxed by any of the three or all three log in each account and solo play them. Seems low risk to me. Now, this doesn't address the OP's desire to maintain what I presume to be high level, well-geared toons on the three disparately registered accounts.
This WOULD be considered a violation of the TOU what so ever low risk it is, therefor at violation of the forum guidelines too. It was a bad joke from my side, and should probably just be deleted by some of the admins.Quote:
Originally Posted by 'Greythan',index.php?page=Thread&postID=73666#post 73666
Edit: Just edited it away myself. Please remove any qoutes from my posts, my bad joke seems to put ideas in peoples head :( This was not intended. Or better yet, just delete this thread.
Dont do this if you want to multibox and be a part of this communtity.
I think the short answer is this, rationalize it any way you want, but you will find little support from the majority of people here.
[quote='cepheus',index.php?page=Thread&postID=73665 #post73665]If admitting this is so close to the edge of this forum's guidlines, I apologize for any harm this have come to the community. [/quote]
There's a difference between admission and promotion. I just felt we were at the edge of telling users that might not know better our opinions on rule interpretation, instead of letting the experts (Blizzard) do it for us.
I don't like having to censor people -- honestly, I don't. But we have, in the past, had malicious wowforum trolls misquote us in order to give the multiboxing community a bad name, and that's pretty much the only time I step in. That and Ellay's nicely written [url='http://dual-boxing.com/forums/index.php?page=Board&boardID=31']community guidelines[/url], which are very clear about not discussing anything that's against the terms of use.
Until I get a Blizzard quote informing me that letting a person play on your account is NOT against the rules, I'm not comfortable letting that train of thought continue for the reasons I've mentioned above. :)
I'm locking the thread as it's starting to get out of hand (I'm not blaming anyone here, I'm just saying we've gone off the beaten path).
Feel free to start up a new thread as long as it doesn't start rolling into discussions on "get around the rules", "stay under the radar", "low risk", "blizz won't ban you" discussions.
Feel free to PM me with a link to a blizzard post confirming the legality of these discussions if I have locked this thread in error and I will publicly apologize for the mistake. :)