Warcraft loses 1.3 million subscribers over the last 3 months.

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If you're so emotionally invested into a video game that you froth at the mouth when something like the removal of the follow command happens, then you need to step away from the keyboard and evaluate what really matters to you.

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Thats something you would normally find on Wow forums and I disagree with that statement completely.

PC Game, like WoW and how the 'game' is designed and on going of the game for yrs and yrs to alot of people is a 'hobby' only difference is, its done from online, not where you go to a club or what not to participate in your hobby.

People invest in collecting cards, collectables, pet store, etc. Just because it is a pc game, does not mean, people have not put their time into it and attatched to what it is they were doing on their accounts that become personal, it is no different to a real life away from PC Hobby.

SO to say what you did is very off track and something one would expect from a 12 yr old. I play a tonne, have for yrs and yrs and put ALOT of real life money into the game, not just by the acounts I pay for and well over few grand in server trasnfers, guild transfers, but also by pet store, cards, loot cards from blizz store one transaction was over 1 grand once and so on.

To me wow is a game but it is also my hobby and I care about changes, I was not a massive pvper, like some who were amazing at what they did boxing pvp as they did, but I did too at times and pve, now I am more solo playing though use other accounts for RF and mostly AH

and to say people need too step away from the keyboard and 'evaluate what matters to them' is totally farken idiotic of course to some people its going to MATTER to them, the /follow changes caused when game to them was a hobby.

Really grow up with such stupid comments

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Originally Posted by Shania

SO to say what you did is very off track and something one would expect from a 12 yr old.

and to say people need too step away from the keyboard and 'evaluate what matters to them' is totally farken idiotic of course to some people its going to MATTER to them, the /follow changes caused when game to them was a hobby.

Really grow up with such stupid comments

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Really? I don't see anything "12 yr old" about EaTCarbS' comments. As a matter of fact, I couldn't agree with EaTCarbS more. As I've said elsewhere, it's like watching people stalk an ex just to make sure they are suffering. It's one thing to be annoyed or pissed about the change, it's another to go off on a bloody freaking rage or wishing painful deaths on people over it more than 2 months after the fact. Seriously, some of these reactions are actually kinda scary.

Blizzard removed Follow. It sucks, just like every single multiboxing-related change has sucked. Used to be a time multiboxers adapted and some people have, moving to arena where follow still works, or world PvP, even PvE. Some people changed their comps to use melee for IWT or druids for IWT on travel form. If you wanted to make it work, there's ways to make it work.

If you don't want to make it work, there's other fish in the sea. I just don't see any reason to react like Blizzard's removal of follow in BGs is some weird betrayal on par with cheating on you with your mom and your best friend while drowning your puppies and then posting videos of it on youtube.

Imo, this exodus has nothing to do with the follow thing. But the game is getting old... and when games gat old people don't like changes. People don't wan't more changes. Blizzard is still marketing WoW like it's fresh - another expansion, it gets fresh again - and that's not the reality. As someone said in this thread people are bored of WOW and there are some new (truely fresh) games appearing and people just moved on.

I really think WoW will never die but they must stop pretending it's a new title with fresh content because it's not. And let people play for free because they already had more than enough.

You certainly know there are still lots of servers where you can play vintage games (I have a friend that still plays Action Quake with regular clan battles). If those titles were permanently changed every six month due economic strategies or whatever, there would be noone still playing those games. Fans for life, the real fans, don't like changes. You don't change what's became history, you should not change things from the past! WoW will be played when it reaches this state. Until then, people will keep leaving and Blizzard will milk the cow up to the last drop.

One thing I noticed. Since the follow thing, I feel like I'm the only one (plus a few others) multiboxing WoW right now. I'm getting old too... LOL :P

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Originally Posted by TRoN

Imo, this exodus has nothing to do with the follow thing. But the game is getting old... and when games gat old people don't like changes. People don't wan't more changes. Blizzard is still marketing WoW like it's fresh - another expansion, it gets fresh again - and that's not the reality. As someone said in this thread people are bored of WOW and there are some new (truely fresh) games appearing and people just moved on.

I really think WoW will never die but they must stop pretending it's a new title with fresh content because it's not. And let people play for free because they already had more than enough.

You certainly know there are still lots of servers where you can play vintage games (I have a friend that still plays Action Quake with regular clan battles). If those titles were permanently changed every six month due economic strategies or whatever, there would be noone still playing those games. Fans for life, the real fans, don't like changes. You don't change what's became history, you should not change things from the past! WoW will be played when it reaches this state. Until then, people will keep leaving and Blizzard will milk the cow up to the last drop.

One thing I noticed. Since the follow thing, I feel like I'm the only one (plus a few others) multiboxing WoW right now. I'm getting old too... LOL :P

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For all people complained about dual lockouts and being able to binge grind your way to the badge gear, I think taking away those two things killed the fun that I got out of wow. With dual lockouts, people pugged lots of things all the time, and you (me anyway) really stayed in touch with your server and the community. LFR is so much easier than actually putting together a group, that everyone just does that instead, but its ultimately a much less satisfying experience and not one that keeps you coming back week after week.

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Originally Posted by Khatovar

Really? I don't see anything "12 yr old" about EaTCarbS' comments. As a matter of fact, I couldn't agree with EaTCarbS more. As I've said elsewhere, it's like watching people stalk an ex just to make sure they are suffering. It's one thing to be annoyed or pissed about the change, it's another to go off on a bloody freaking rage or wishing painful deaths on people over it more than 2 months after the fact. Seriously, some of these reactions are actually kinda scary.

Blizzard removed Follow. It sucks, just like every single multiboxing-related change has sucked. Used to be a time multiboxers adapted and some people have, moving to arena where follow still works, or world PvP, even PvE. Some people changed their comps to use melee for IWT or druids for IWT on travel form. If you wanted to make it work, there's ways to make it work.

If you don't want to make it work, there's other fish in the sea. I just don't see any reason to react like Blizzard's removal of follow in BGs is some weird betrayal on par with cheating on you with your mom and your best friend while drowning your puppies and then posting videos of it on youtube.

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Pull your head out of your ass and let people feel whatever they want to feel. Nobody is stalking any ex here, stop making stupid analogies. People care about their hobbies, end of story. Stop judging people with your very small mind.

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Originally Posted by TRoN

Imo, this exodus has nothing to do with the follow thing. But the game is getting old... and when games gat old people don't like changes. People don't wan't more changes. Blizzard is still marketing WoW like it's fresh - another expansion, it gets fresh again - and that's not the reality. As someone said in this thread people are bored of WOW and there are some new (truely fresh) games appearing and people just moved on.

I really think WoW will never die but they must stop pretending it's a new title with fresh content because it's not. And let people play for free because they already had more than enough.

You certainly know there are still lots of servers where you can play vintage games (I have a friend that still plays Action Quake with regular clan battles). If those titles were permanently changed every six month due economic strategies or whatever, there would be noone still playing those games. Fans for life, the real fans, don't like changes. You don't change what's became history, you should not change things from the past! WoW will be played when it reaches this state. Until then, people will keep leaving and Blizzard will milk the cow up to the last drop.

One thing I noticed. Since the follow thing, I feel like I'm the only one (plus a few others) multiboxing WoW right now. I'm getting old too... LOL :P

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My hope is that WoW keeps losing over 1 mill subs per quarter and eventually go free to play. I know it's a very long shot but who knows. Then I can 40 box of whatever my PC can handle :)

The irony about the removal of /slash follow is that bgs are still full of bots. I have been leveling a sexy mage (81) from level 10 through bgs and the new bracket I am in is absolutely ruined by bots. WSG match last night, 7 bots on my team. IOC- at least 1/2 the team were bots. So damn frustrating, and it's impossible to report them easily especially when there are so many.

Also a friend of mine bots 3 accounts for himself (leveling alts, farming mats for profession cds) and while they are botting smarter he is definitely still botting. Seems the people who are being caught have either been reported by other players or are botting 24/7.

If Blizz want to hit booting very hard - they just need to remove "clik to move" not just follow from the game

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Originally Posted by Tin

If Blizz want to hit booting very hard - they just need to remove "clik to move" not just follow from the game

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This would break the main bot program instantly with little to no chance of it returning.

I'm curious, does anyone here use click to move, for either your master toon or your slaves? I have never used it, I keyboard or middle mouse to go forward and right click to turn. I struggled with D3 for ages due to the click-to-move system.

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Originally Posted by Palee

Pull your head out of your ass and let people feel whatever they want to feel. Nobody is stalking any ex here, stop making stupid analogies. People care about their hobbies, end of story. Stop judging people with your very small mind.

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Did you miss the section in the rules where there's a no tolerance policy for attacking members of this community? Just because someone disagrees with you {or someone else} doesn't give you the right to attack them on a personal level.

Really too bad. I really like MoP expansion as PVE. Love to take my team into an area and nuke the whole thing down and move on like a swarm of locusts. I agree its a bad thing that they removed /follow in PVP and I doubt it has decreased bots very much.