Arena are now ruined for boxers.

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Originally Posted by Shodokan

You can also trinket them and a good majority of them are 1-2 min cooldowns (shockwave is an exception).

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afaik ring of frost and shadowfury are 30 sec cd, disrupting shout 45 sec (http://us.battle.net/wow/en/game/mis...t-calculator#e!) although I'm not sure if those numbers are still accurate I'm not up to date regarding the beta, I know most of them share dr but since the cooldown is that low it doesnt really matter because everything is ready again once dr is resetted

and so far grounding doesnt absorb aoe effects

And I'm not sure if blizz is going to change that as its logical to implement more aoe cc because of RBG

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Originally Posted by Kruschpakx4

afaik ring of frost and shadowfury are 30 sec cd, disrupting shout 45 sec (http://us.battle.net/wow/en/game/mis...t-calculator#e!) although I'm not sure if those numbers are still accurate I'm not up to date regarding the beta, I know most of them share dr but since the cooldown is that low it doesnt really matter because everything is ready again once dr is resetted

and so far grounding doesnt absorb aoe effects

And I'm not sure if blizz is going to change that as its logical to implement more aoe cc because of RBG

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They might, as they are pushing for MLG to take WoW under their banner again with MoP.

Also warriors in 5's will use those abilities you listed as they are just too strong against multiple targets.

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Originally Posted by Kruschpakx4

afaik ring of frost and shadowfury are 30 sec cd, disrupting shout 45 sec (http://us.battle.net/wow/en/game/mis...t-calculator#e!) although I'm not sure if those numbers are still accurate I'm not up to date regarding the beta, I know most of them share dr but since the cooldown is that low it doesnt really matter because everything is ready again once dr is resetted

and so far grounding doesnt absorb aoe effects

And I'm not sure if blizz is going to change that as its logical to implement more aoe cc because of RBG

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You know what is cool that I like alot is ring is 30sec cd and has a cast time 1.5 sec or something but it doesnt take time to build up like on live, its instant. Its pretty fun.

This change isn't a big deal for me. I don't like arenas and I STILL won't like them. They already have this in BGs as well. But yea, if you see you are versing a certain team, you can change from 2dps1healer to 2healer1dps, etc, to combat it, so I don't think it's a good change.

Only things arenas are good for are quick points if near the end of the week and still short.

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Originally Posted by valkry

This change isn't a big deal for me. I don't like arenas and I STILL won't like them. They already have this in BGs as well. But yea, if you see you are versing a certain team, you can change from 2dps1healer to 2healer1dps, etc, to combat it, so I don't think it's a good change.

Only things arenas are good for are quick points if near the end of the week and still short.

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For a lot of people here that is true but some of us do it for getting or attempting to get elite gear.

For elite PvP(Not just for fun) I see no problem. Its not like people are going to use an entire spec just to defeat boxers. It will be the same as it is now. We both have the same advantage.

Unless even at the top levels you are using the surprise factor well good now were on par with the rest.