$2200.00 Budget..what should I do?

Its just a ram disk, I doubt that it would be against the ToS as you are not decompiling or using the wow folder in ram for any other purpose then high speed. The game itself loads textures into system ram ...

Ya but its not the loading times that is the big advantage, its the fact that 4K textures can get to the video card almost instantly when you encounter a new character running through org or in BG's etc.

Texture loading is what casues lag when you run through org as when a new toon comes into view naturally you have to load its textures.

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Ya but its not the loading times that is the big advantage, its the fact that 4K textures can get to the video card almost instantly when you encounter a new character running through org or in BG's etc.

Texture loading is what casues lag when you run through org as when a new toon comes into view naturally you have to load its textures.

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Very true.

Sooo.. ill have only 1500.00 to start.. had some money hiccups 8(..this build is to get me going ( I'm going nutzo having to go to the mall to play hehe ) I will upgrade the 8GB ram to 16 in a few weeks ( getting 2x8GB to start ) I have a 480GTX i stole from my last PC, and my 300GB raptor HD ..which has all my game/isboxer files on it rtg!

Is the 2600K a definite improvement for my needs ( multiboxing ) over the 2500K ? because if not.. that will save me some money and allow me to upgrade faster in a few weeks

I chose Digital Storm because they have a sale atm, and i have read lots of great reviews about them. Hard to beat the price and service from what i can find.

Specifications:
Chassis Model: Special Deal Hot Seller - Cooler Master CM 690 II Advanced
Processor: Intel Core i7 2600K 3.40GHz (Unlocked CPU for Extreme Overclocking) (Quad Core)
Motherboard: ASUS P8Z68-V PRO (Intel Z68 Chipset) (Features Intel Quick Sync Technology)
System Memory: 8GB DDR3 1600MHz Digital Storm Certified Performance Series (Highly Recommended) (Hand Tested)
Power Supply: 750W Digital Storm Certified (Dual SLI Compatible) (Silent Edition Recommended)
Hard Drive Set 1: Operating System: 1x (1TB Hitachi/Seagate (7200 RPM) (32MB Cache)
Optical Drive 1: Blu-Ray Player/DVD Player (Play Blu-Ray and Play DVDs)
Optical Drive 2: DVD-R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 24x / CD-Writer 48x)
Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)
Video Card: 1x NVIDIA GeForce GT 430 1GB (Includes PhysX Technology)
Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio
Extreme Cooling: AIR: Stage 1: High Performance Cooler (Compatible With i5/i7/AMD Processors)
Chassis Airflow: Standard Factory Chassis Fans
Boost Processor: FREE: Overclock the processor between 3.3GHz to 3.9GHz
Boost OS: FREE: Yes, Disable and tweak all of the non-crucial services on the operating system
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium (64-Bit Edition)
Recovery Tools: Windows Recovery Toolkit (Bundled with Windows 7 CD)
Warranty: Life-time Expert Customer Care with 3 Year Limited Warranty

Another thing that might help you make a decision is that the 6 core sandy bridges will be out within the year. So, you might want to go with the 2500K now, save some money, and then upgrade to the 6 core when it arrives. If you even need to.

Good Luck Lyonheart !

-Grail

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Video Card: 1x NVIDIA GeForce GT 430 1GB (Includes PhysX Technology)

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Is that seriously the video card they're trying to sell you? I think you should probably Google a few benchmarks...

If you change from a GTX 580 to that prepare to be seriously let down. You won't be multiboxing your way out
of a cardboard box with a GT 430.

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Another thing that might help you make a decision is that the 6 core sandy bridges will be out within the year. So, you might want to go with the 2500K now, save some money, and then upgrade to the 6 core when it arrives. If you even need to.

Good Luck Lyonheart !

-Grail

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As far as I know, 6 core processors will be for LGA 2011, not LGA 1155.

Hi Fenril,

I had the impression on the video card that he was going to supply his own from another machine, and he just had to take something or they wouldn't sell him the rig. So he probably just took the least expensive. Of course, I could be wrong, and it is best you brought up the question.

*edit* Wanting to check on Fenril's concerns, I did a bunch of googling for you right now Lyonheart, and as sad it makes me right now, my hopes for an 1155 are not as well founded as I thought.

If that idea appeals to you at all though Lyonheart, just ask Digital Storm if putting in a new processor a year from now will compromise the warranty.

-Grail

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Hi Fenril,

I had the impression on the video card that he was going to supply his own from another machine, and he just had to take something or they wouldn't sell him the rig. So he probably just took the least expensive. Of course, I could be wrong, and it is best you brought up the question.

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You're right he mentions keeping the GTX 480.

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Also, I did read 6 core sandy bridges were coming for 1155 and we wouldn't have to wait for Ivy Bridge. However, just right now, I can't quote where I read it.

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I would love to read that article.

Thx guys! I am going to go with 2500k OCd for now.. it saves me a chunk of change and will let me do some upgrades in a few weeks faster ( 580GTX 3GB and sell my 480gtx ) and more ram if needed.

Fenril has mentioned several times that Crossfire/SLI is a poor choice for multiboxing, and I really appreciate hearing that because I was wondering about that myself.

From all I've read here on this thread and others, it sounds like it is not possible to force, say 3 clients onto one graphics card, and the other 2 clients onto the other graphics card, but rather all five clients try to use both cards (or not, if WoW doesn't support SLI at all) at the same time.

If you go two computers instead of one, how does the system play? Do you have one mouse that scrolls seemlessly across multiple screens like the single computer with dual monitors I run now, with IS boxer pip-swapping windows in and out or is it more like running two comps, with two monitors, two mice, two keyboards etc? I really like the performance side of this option, but I started boxing one toon on my desktop with another running on the laptop next to me and moved away from that as soon as I could; I don't really want to go back to what for me is a less intuitive setup.


TL/DR: boxing on more than one computer - can it be seemless or will it always be clunky using two machines?

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Fenril has mentioned several times that Crossfire/SLI is a poor choice for multiboxing, and I really appreciate hearing that because I was wondering about that myself.

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The only reason I keep touting this is because there has yet to be a group of people who actually claim, and
can prove, that they truly see any significant increase in performance while using SLI/CF. In helping people
troubleshoot multiboxing issues throughout the years, I have run into numerous people who have had SLI/CF
enabled, and disabling it has always fixed any issues they've had. This is just in my experience and could of
course be different for others yet many agree with not using SLI/CF.

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From all I've read here on this thread and others, it sounds like it is not possible to force, say 3 clients onto one graphics card, and the other 2 clients onto the other graphics card, but rather all five clients try to use both cards (or not, if WoW doesn't support SLI at all) at the same time.

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I have yet to actually figure this out 100%. While WoW natively supports using different monitors (prior to that
it could be accomplished through Inner Space), in my quick test with two GTX 570's I was unable to get WoW
to actually use any of the second GPU's VRAM. I will be honest that I did not test this as thorough as I possibly
could have before I just opted to get a much stronger GPU instead.

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Do you have one mouse that scrolls seemlessly across multiple screens like the single computer with dual monitors I run now, with IS boxer pip-swapping windows in and out or is it more like running two comps, with two monitors, two mice, two keyboards etc? I really like the performance side of this option, but I started boxing one toon on my desktop with another running on the laptop next to me and moved away from that as soon as I could; I don't really want to go back to what for me is a less intuitive setup.

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People use software KM's (KVM w/o the V) to accomplish using a single mouse/keyboard between multiple
machines at the same time. Input Director would be my recommendation if you're able to use Windows on
both machines. If you're running different OS's on these machines then your next choice would probably be
Synergy although many have reported that Synergy can act up at times while multiboxing.