4/5 PvP Rogue question/info thread

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Originally Posted by remanz

I am interested in knowing what to do when being attacked by the players who you are not targeting (stunning). Killing 1-2 people in bg, then lose 1 of my own is not fun.

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Oh in BGs without a healer... pretty much everything I do is a suicide mission. The trick is to make yourself the most useful.

Flag nodes: Uncap them when people are distracted... then restealth.
IsleOfConquest: this one is great. The enemy team always seems to get docks, which is clutch to winning. So I just let them have it.. and 90 seconds later when the glaive throwers are halfway to our base.... BOOM dead, vanish. Gratz on your useless docks :)

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Originally Posted by David

I just did a AV with my lvl60 rogues, 5 of them. They are wearing heribloom daggers and besides that only a chest, pants and head. Rest of the gear slots are still empty.
I still managed to take a LOT of people down. There was no skill involved really, just using defensive skills and hit my Iwinbutton mutilate mostly. Still have to work on blinds and so.

I find it pretty hard to make decend specs for my team. Most talents involve combo point improvement and I don`t think that we really need them anyway. We might just kill to fast for them. Could you link your armory, I would like to check out your rogues.

Besides that, wouldn`t a shadowstep spec be nice as well?

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I've been giving shadowstep spec some thought too. Seems like that would alleviate some of the difficulties of getting in position once we're out of stealth. The "swirling melee" thing could possibly be used for backstab-spam also, although I admit I havent actually tried that, but I will. Still levelling and rogues are almost 72 now :)

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Originally Posted by Fuzzyboy

I've been giving shadowstep spec some thought too. Seems like that would alleviate some of the difficulties of getting in position once we're out of stealth. The "swirling melee" thing could possibly be used for backstab-spam also, although I admit I havent actually tried that, but I will. Still levelling and rogues are almost 72 now :)

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mutilate doesn't require you to be behind. Backstab isn't used anymore really.

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Originally Posted by asonimie

mutilate doesn't require you to be behind. Backstab isn't used anymore really.

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True, but I was talking about a shadowstep spec, where I guess you wouldn't have mutilate?

Would be fun maybe to use shadowstep in arena by targetting different players and appair behind different players. Damage them all, activate sprint and start focussing your dps.

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Originally Posted by remanz

I am interested in knowing what to do when being attacked by the players who you are not targeting (stunning). Killing 1-2 people in bg, then lose 1 of my own is not fun.

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I think the question here is, one of your guys is 1000 yards away on the other side of AV. What do you do then? As the question about getting jump while jumping someone else is sort of a 'more details' response.

All trinket back to HQ is an option in AV, autofollowing someone poor slob for a free ride or partial ride might work. Stealth / mount up and mouse click to move, meet you guy half way if you can. In WSG/AB/WG mount up -> mouse click move, get some place and have that slave stealth move and meet the slave there works pretty well. In AV it really depends on where the GY is and whats going on. You can setup ambush for a while with the main group (mouse click move them around in stealth) and haul ass with the slave mounted up.

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Originally Posted by Fuzzyboy

True, but I was talking about a shadowstep spec, where I guess you wouldn't have mutilate?

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I'm no expert on subtlety specs, but I think Hemo spec is somewhat strong(don't have the spec details, just heard from another PVPer). I was just assuming any deep Sub spec was probably hemo spec, in which case you spam hemo.

EditL did some digging and yes there is a ShS spec that uses a few backstabs in the rotation.

The thing I'm noticing so far with my rogues... is that the more complicated and gimmicky / cooldown related my dmg is, the less is actually works. Combat was more cooldown / dmg gimmick based and it was horrible. I'll give Hemo an honest try but I imagine it will be a lot like combat.

This is a good thread. I have learned some about my solo rogue (he's 63 atm) and I'm thinking of doing 3 rogues or 1 druid 2 rogues with my remaining RAF.