4x Melee Discussions

I agree that some mixed setups would work and in the long run some people might learn how to do it without to much automation by macro`s. Tho that road will not be easy.

Good macro`s are the shit anyway. I don`t know much about deminishing returns or whatever they are called but with the right macro`s rogues can do good things stunwise.

Btw just a bit off topic. When you guys use interact with target I assueme you also check Click-to-move?

And another bit offtopic lol. Someone please explain what this strobing does for a melee team? I know my jamba has it but what does it do?

Hmmm, maybe Druids *would* be the best then? No fears or Polys or roots or snares means you can save your trinket for uh... Cyclone? Blind? Stuns?

They get base run speed too, which is nice.

More thoughts? :)

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Originally Posted by David

I agree that some mixed setups would work and in the long run some people might learn how to do it without to much automation by macro`s. Tho that road will not be easy.

Good macro`s are the shit anyway. I don`t know much about deminishing returns or whatever they are called but with the right macro`s rogues can do good things stunwise.

Btw just a bit off topic. When you guys use interact with target I assueme you also check Click-to-move?

And another bit offtopic lol. Someone please explain what this strobing does for a melee team? I know my jamba has it but what does it do?

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yes click to move is the only way to make interact with target work.

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Originally Posted by Mosg2

Hmmm, maybe Druids *would* be the best then? No fears or Polys or roots or snares means you can save your trinket for uh... Cyclone? Blind? Stuns?

They get base run speed too, which is nice.

More thoughts? :)

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druids have no way out of fear afaik

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Originally Posted by Kromtor

druids have no way out of fear afaik

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Berserk-51pt Talent

Instant 3 min cooldown When activated, this ability causes your Mangle (Bear) ability to hit up to 3 targets and have no cooldown, and reduces the energy cost of all your Cat Form abilities by 50%. Lasts 15 sec. You cannot use Tiger's Fury while Berserk is active.

Clears the effect of Fear and makes you immune to Fear for the duration.(15 secs)

hmm yes that would be interesting. i just dont know enough about geared feral druids and what they can do as far as burst. i know with the instant big ass heals or instant cyclones you can really do some tricky, tricky stuff.

you're really going to be eating up your globals shapeshifting against a good mage though i think.

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Originally Posted by Kromtor

hmm yes that would be interesting. i just dont know enough about geared feral druids and what they can do as far as burst.

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Their burst is absurd, and it hits multiple targets at once. They rip my priest in half twice as fast as a rogue. If we see a feral they are the #1 target in both 3v3 and in 5s even if there is an ele shaman.

I wouldn't expect an all feral druid team to excel.
However a feral druid in cat form wouldn't be terribly hard to macro.
And that adds a few buffs to your team as well as the heal on melee crit.
And you can stealth for a bit of surprise off of the open.

Then again, the more classes we add, the harder it is to be optimal.
A BG or PvE all melee team could work quite well.
But when going against live opposition in the arena, simpler is likely stronger.

Still a team with an Enhancement Shammy, Cat Druid and three more melee could work.
Not sure how far you'd get, but then prior to Kromtor trying Pallies, pallies were theoretical as well.

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Originally Posted by Ualaa

I wouldn't expect an all feral druid team to excel.
However a feral druid in cat form wouldn't be terribly hard to macro.
And that adds a few buffs to your team as well as the heal on melee crit.
And you can stealth for a bit of surprise off of the open.

Then again, the more classes we add, the harder it is to be optimal.
A BG or PvE all melee team could work quite well.
But when going against live opposition in the arena, simpler is likely stronger.

Still a team with an Enhancement Shammy, Cat Druid and three more melee could work.
Not sure how far you'd get, but then prior to Kromtor trying Pallies, pallies were theoretical as well.

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I dont think ILotP stacks(confirm?) so a full feral team wouldnt be that great. SS out to heal would suck.

I think you could make it a 5vs4 real quick but I dont have any idea after that. Pounce>SP>Shred or skip SP if that would 1 shot.

Thing that sucks about using enhancement + Dks in a melee team is that Unleashed Rage and Abomination's Might dont stack. I guess you dont have to spec AB if your using a EH shaman though. /shrug

I think any 4x Melee should be able to make it 5v4 with your opening salvo. The question is which class(es) are going to be able to win the 5v4?

Ualaa, I'm not sure why you don't think Druids would work. If their burst is the same as a Paladin's or a DK's, and they have 15 seconds of Fear immunity plus static immunity to snares, roots, and polymorphs... I think they'd be really really strong. The biggest problem would be the lack of survivability.

I'm just not into a mixed team. Yes, on paper it makes more sense but the more classes you add the less optimal performance you get out of each class.

So, Druids, DKs, and Enhance Shaman are at the top of my list so far. Hmmmmm.