It is?...Quote:
Originally Posted by simpletom
These are druids we are talking about, right?
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It is?...Quote:
Originally Posted by simpletom
These are druids we are talking about, right?
Heh, get Ebola to post some vids when he hits 70 in a few days here. You'll probably be surprised. Not as high as mages but pretty decent.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xzin
Druids are the archetypal hybrid class. They give up being #1 DPS, tank, healer in order to fill all of them well enough.
Shamans are supposed to be a hybrid like class but they seem to me to have fewer drawbacks.
But are limited to one class that can tank, rez, heal, dps, totem and travelform - all at once.
Wait..... where's the drawback?
That exactly is my main shaman gripe XZin...we druids have to pick and spec heavily into a tree to do one job well. Balance for caster dps(losing most tankability and regen/heal power), Feral for tanking or cat melee dps(losing all usefulness in spells and a mana pool no bigger than 4k'ish, and the armor boost in bear is ONLY while shifted, making us unable to heal or pot or even root/cyclone without going back to 2-3k armor), or Resto(Giving up solo grindability and tankability, though a little less soloability is lost now that +heal adds to +dmg)
Shaman can do all 3 regardless of spec pretty much. Slap Windfury on a strong 2h staff/mace, drop yer totems, do nice dmg shocks/melee dmg all while still having a super fast heal that also heals for a decent amount, also while wearing mail and having the option of shields/block/parry.
And Druids can't pot in bearform because it'd be unfair. HAH. :p
But I digress; we have a seperate thread for shaman/boomkin groupings, this topic is about the uneducated masses in lowbie zones ;)
at 24 i really feel that druids do dish out alot of damage very quickly, alot faster than my warlock team did anyway, or holy smite team for that matter. level 24 im aware things will be different at 70
Im not anywhere saying that moonkin druids are better than elemental shaman, in fact on the eu forums its been posted a few times how much better elemental shaman are compared to moonkin druids in both arena senarios and endgame pve. i just wanted to make a boxing team that wasnt elemental shaman.
i really like the druids for a fair few reasons
-they have instant hots
-they can multi role, not all in one spec but that doesnt stop me collecting more sets of gear and respecing them as i please.
-it will give me a chance to really try melee boxing without a huge time investment i just need to respec them. (all were spec'd feral at 23, useing
/follow focus
/assist focus
/cast Claw
kills pretty much everything before 2nd combo point goes on, i just position the main so that hes on the oposite side to the other 4 druids so they attack from behind and main tanks putting htem all in melee range).
-i know its not as easy to stack resilience on moonkin druids as it is any other caster but they have 16k armor, and this agaisnt my biggest class fears (rogues hunters and warriors) will make a huge difference.
haveing alot of fun so far with this team i already feel its more rewarding than any other combo i have tried, ive not tried 5 shaman yet and it is on my to do list maybe ill give it ago when i have done the druids.
happy new guys
I tried to be friendly about the "What are you doing?" inquiries. Then someone posted in WoW General about this should be illegal etc, using my words almost verbatim from our chat. I directed him to this site, too. Guess he didn't bother to read much.
Now when I hear the chatter, I just say I have 5 computers, and leave it at that.
Shamans have a ton of drawbacks, the #1 piece is non mobility. If you want to be effective you need your totems down, to have your totems properly placed you've consumed 5 precious seconds and your glued to that area, if you want to move you need to re-drop them.
You have 1 main school of magic and no other options. If your tree gets locked you sit there twiddling your thumbs :)
Druids do about the same damage in terms of DPS as an Elemental Shaman for PvE. The reason Shamans shine more in the 5v5 bracket is the controlled burst damage.
A Quad Boomkin setup with a really good healer may work well since their spell casts are much faster (main nuke = 1.5 seconds) and when push comes to shove you can spam out Moonfire till a target drops.
:D see all of that too
still i think i would trade some something (maybe that stupid chaneled aoe spell, queue people saying "what that healing aoe spell?", no the dammage one...."durids have a challed aoe damage spell"?...yep see pointless spell) for chain lightning but cant have it all :(
totems are pretty impressive things for boxers as they might not move but when you have 16-20 all laid out in nicely looking like a pretty christmas tree. it doesnt fear the wrath of mass dispell and noone is going to spend the time removeing the totems...or do they?
im really excited about giveing boomkins a try now.
As far as getting people on your faction on your side... I'm running a priest/mage/shami and my mate runs a pali/mage combo, if we're out and about questing we'll be herding and grouping most of the mobs in an area then AoE nuking them down.Quote:
Originally Posted by Toshi
This can sort of upset nearby questers, but whenever someone stops with that "look on their face" like they've paused to start bitching, we throw them fortitude, intellect, kings and spirit buffs and then heal em up, they're always too grateful to say anything other than "cool thanks" after that. Just goes to show that a friendly act goes a long way to not getting reported or hassled ;)
Idd, there is nothing better to baffle a "bot thinker" than ressing them when they died due to gawping at your group.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shogun
I did that today, and the response was, "I was about to report you, but bots dont' res, wierd", we had a chat after that, and he added me to friends after he understood.