Interesting email from a GM

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Originally Posted by 'rahven32',index.php?page=Thread&postID=206643#pos t206643

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Originally Posted by 'Otlecs',index.php?page=Thread&postID=206514#post2 06514

But when you put a multi-key cap on an Xkeys it recognises it as a single key.

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So it's a software change rather than a hardware? I always thought it was basically the same as the stick analogy. I'm not familiar with it enough to know though just what I've read here. If it's software why even have a 2x2 cap? Or does the software read it as press these two buttons to do this. If that makes any sense. EG: press ctrl c = copy or press x+y = ctrl+v

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You setup your x-keys with single keycaps, button 1 is Q and button 2 is W, then you put a dual cap on it and press Q and W at the same time. If you put it in programming mode and press the dual cap it records a single keystroke not two seperate keys.

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Originally Posted by 'zanthor',index.php?page=Thread&postID=206667#post 206667

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Originally Posted by 'rahven32',index.php?page=Thread&postID=206643#pos t206643

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Originally Posted by 'Otlecs',index.php?page=Thread&postID=206514#post2 06514

But when you put a multi-key cap on an Xkeys it recognises it as a single key.

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So it's a software change rather than a hardware? I always thought it was basically the same as the stick analogy. I'm not familiar with it enough to know though just what I've read here. If it's software why even have a 2x2 cap? Or does the software read it as press these two buttons to do this. If that makes any sense. EG: press ctrl c = copy or press x+y = ctrl+v

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You setup your x-keys with single keycaps, button 1 is Q and button 2 is W, then you put a dual cap on it and press Q and W at the same time. If you put it in programming mode and press the dual cap it records a single keystroke not two seperate keys.

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But you can't have a single key stroke that hits Q and W - they are two separate keys no matter how you set it up in your hardware and software.

So with a G15 it is against the rules to bind Alt-1 to one of your G keys? Weather boxing or not.
Or in any Key replication software (HKN Keyclone etc) to make a keymap that sends more then one key to a client? Like hitting 3 and sending 3 to one client and alt-3 to another?

On the basis of some of the arguments that would be the case.

I personally believe it is not. I think they are more concerned with automation. Hitting one key and walking away while your dude(s) farm away or whatever.

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Originally Posted by 'keyclone',index.php?page=Thread&postID=206307#pos t206307

you can hit 2 keys at once and all your characters should move diagonal. trying to say that hitting one key should trip 2 keys to all windows would be something i'd stay away from, as it violates the "one key press --> one key received per wow" rule.

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Actually, I don't see anywhere that they said "one key press --> one key received per wow". However, they did say, one key press to one action per character. Your interpretation is pretty strict, and that's fine to design your software by, but you shouldn't tell people that one key must resolve to exactly one key. Besides, aren't you pressing more than one key when you send shift, alt, or ctrl in conjunction with another key? Anyway, I would interpret moving diagonally as a single action, and I use one key to move my characters diagonally, even in my videos (formations). They recently added joystick support -- I don't know if it works or not -- but presumably you would be able to move in any direction as a single action. IMHO, movement is a special case, and you're definitely not going to get banned for moving diagonally by only pressing 1 key either way.

Besides, the OP specifically asked about this, and the GM e-mailed back and said it was fine. Isn't that already the end of the discussion?

ok then.. one key == one action.

i can find 'move forward' and 'strafe left'... but i can't seem to find 'move diagonal'

i'm thinking that would be two actions

the problem wouldn't necessarily be the movement keys being bannable. it'd be that the mechanism allows for multi-key hits per key (unless its restricted to a set of movement keys.. which wouldn't make sense), which would be bannable.

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it'd be that the mechanism allows for multi-key hits per key (unless its restricted to a set of movement keys.. which wouldn't make sense), which would be bannable.

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You're right, make sure to block those added presses of Alt, Ctrl, and Shift in keyclone unless your user is actually pressing it, this is proof that Keyclone is "bannable" because it has a "mechanism that allows for multi-key hits per key"

modifier... key. key... modifier. hmmm

Ask a GM if Alt is a key

Multiboxing is Fine l2p.