New tremor totems are awful...

The tremor totems definitely changed this week - I do Onyxia every monday and her phase 3 fears were broken in under a second in past weeks, today when I did it they took between 1-3 seconds to break - and yes, I stagger drop them with /cast ,Tremor Totem, (different place in ,,, for each shaman). No big deal at all for PVE imo, the number of 80 mobs that fears I can count on 2 fingers (Dred and the trash in HoS?) and even if you drop 0 tremor totems both are relatively easy.

Of course in PVP I imagine this is a bit more of a problem.

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Originally Posted by 'Suvega',index.php?page=Thread&postID=180460#post1 80460

Less QQ at tremor. Enjoy your ZOMG grounding holywtf buff. (And by buff I mean a revert to functionality that existed a year ago)

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Eh? What buff? I have noticed no grounding totem change since I started multiboxing last August.

Also, to the person that responded to my last post, I have run into a TON of people that fear in the last week. Here is a list:

All death knights in DTK (they fear almost every combat, though its not AoE)
King Dred (Have been AoE feared by him at least twice, once one of my shamans turned around but didn't actually move at all, a simple /follow and then hitting my back key turned him around - this used to happen long before the tremor totem change as well
And, most importantly, the berserkers in UP. Theres tons of them after Skadi and they all AoE fear. Had 0 issues and 0 facing issues with them using tremor totems as recently as 2 nights ago.

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Originally Posted by 'Hachoo',index.php?page=Thread&postID=180502#post1 80502

Also, to the person that responded to my last post, I have run into a TON of people that fear in the last week. Here is a list:

All death knights in DTK (they fear almost every combat, though its not AoE)
King Dred (Have been AoE feared by him at least twice, once one of my shamans turned around but didn't actually move at all, a simple /follow and then hitting my back key turned him around - this used to happen long before the tremor totem change as well
And, most importantly, the berserkers in UP. Theres tons of them after Skadi and they all AoE fear. Had 0 issues and 0 facing issues with them using tremor totems as recently as 2 nights ago.

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OK, but absence of proof <> proof of absence.

Multiple people including myself have noticed a significant recent change in the behavior of tremor totem. The fact that you haven't had an issue with them, as I mentioned previously, suggests to me either a limited observation window or luck on your part (the single pulsing happening to occur at a fortuitous time).

Simple enough to determine the current behavior. I have a warlock and 4 shaman. I will stagger tremor totems and then fear a shammy in a duel. Based off a large enough sample size and proper combat log parsing, I should be able to give a definitive answer. After that you can argue about how it used to work, but at least we will know how it does work.

On a side note, I think a precious theory is correct. The totems all pulse at the same time now. I'm guessing it might be related to the graphics change they made to the mana and healing totems back in 3.0.2. They likely wanted them to pulse together and just tagged the tremor totem to the same tick source.

I'll report back with hard data and pretty graphs.

- Souca -

Duel isnt a good idea, your other shaman cannot heal someone dueling so I would suspect their pulses of Tremor would not affect as well. You need someone from opposite faction to do it or find a mob that fears, a lot.

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Originally Posted by 'Suvega',index.php?page=Thread&postID=180460#post1 80460

Less QQ at tremor. Enjoy your ZOMG grounding holywtf buff. (And by buff I mean a revert to functionality that existed a year ago)

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I have no clue what you are talking about. Enquiring minds would like to know.

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Originally Posted by 'Multibocks',index.php?page=Thread&postID=180582#p ost180582

Duel isnt a good idea, your other shaman cannot heal someone dueling so I would suspect their pulses of Tremor would not affect as well. You need someone from opposite faction to do it or find a mob that fears, a lot.

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Good point. I think I know someone on the other side with a few priest. I'll see if I can't set something up.

- Souca -

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Originally Posted by 'emesis',index.php?page=Thread&postID=180517#post1 80517

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Originally Posted by 'Hachoo',index.php?page=Thread&postID=180502#post1 80502

Also, to the person that responded to my last post, I have run into a TON of people that fear in the last week. Here is a list:

All death knights in DTK (they fear almost every combat, though its not AoE)
King Dred (Have been AoE feared by him at least twice, once one of my shamans turned around but didn't actually move at all, a simple /follow and then hitting my back key turned him around - this used to happen long before the tremor totem change as well
And, most importantly, the berserkers in UP. Theres tons of them after Skadi and they all AoE fear. Had 0 issues and 0 facing issues with them using tremor totems as recently as 2 nights ago.

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OK, but absence of proof <> proof of absence.

Multiple people including myself have noticed a significant recent change in the behavior of tremor totem. The fact that you haven't had an issue with them, as I mentioned previously, suggests to me either a limited observation window or luck on your part (the single pulsing happening to occur at a fortuitous time).

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It could definitely be extraordinary luck - though if I had this amount of luck for this long (enough where I didn't even notice a tremor change at all) - thats some serious RNG luck right there.

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Originally Posted by 'Souca',index.php?page=Thread&postID=180589#post18 0589

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Originally Posted by 'Multibocks',index.php?page=Thread&postID=180582#p ost180582

Duel isnt a good idea, your other shaman cannot heal someone dueling so I would suspect their pulses of Tremor would not affect as well. You need someone from opposite faction to do it or find a mob that fears, a lot.

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Good point. I think I know someone on the other side with a few priest. I'll see if I can't set something up.

- Souca -

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You can also do this in the Nagrand arena or Blades Edge arena.. :)

According to certain people tremor was FIXED not nerfed, apparently it ticked each second. However i do not have any blue posts to back this up..

I have my doubts that Blizzard wants us to be impossible to fear, so if it ticked each second then yes it was kinda insane.

The problem isnt wether they tick each second or every third second, but that they tick all at the same time. That is a nerf, stacking nerf to totems.