New GCD Changes

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Originally Posted by Phate

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Originally Posted by Stealthy

Ok if anyone is still doubting the effects of this change, have a look at this post on the PTR forums here:
http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/th...sid=1&pageNo=1

Download and have a look at the video's Serennia posted, they show how much this change screws PvP, particularly for warriors.

Btw, Serennia is the top ranked PvP warrior in the world, so it's fair to say he knows what he is talking about.

Cheers,
Stealthy

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Did you read the thread? Hortus posted 4 days ago saying that it would be fixed in the next build of the PTR. GG fearmongering and QQtorrents.

http://elitistjerks.com/f31/t16979-m...fter_2_3_a/p3/

Post number 66. Imo manly is a comparable theorycaster to Murphid, and the like.

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You realise of course that the post you're linking was made on October 14th, about 2 weeks before the GCD changes were implemented on the PTR...

GG misinformation and QQ fact checking?

Now according to this post from Drysc, the 2.3 patch is scheduled for November 13th, although they have said they will push it back if need be:
http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/th...66101883&sid=1
And this still hasn't been fixed on the PTR yet...I'm not saying that Blizz aren't going to fix it, Hortus has said it will be addressed, but the question I suppose is when? Before 2.3 goes live? In 2.4? We can only wait and see.

And just to prove I'm not QQ'ing - there are some things I'm really looking forward to in this patch - priests getting fear ward, as well as improved mana regen and PW:S being affected by spell damage. Also the ability to buy season 1 arena gear as a BG reward is nice. Finally the reduction in XP needed to level between 20 and 60, and the increased XP reward from quests is welcome news!

Cheers,
Shane

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Originally Posted by Stealthy

You realise of course that the post you're linking was made on October 14th, about 2 weeks before the GCD changes were implemented on the PTR...

GG misinformation and QQ fact checking?

Now according to this post from Drysc, the 2.3 patch is scheduled for November 13th, although they have said they will push it back if need be:
http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/th...66101883&sid=1
And this still hasn't been fixed on the PTR yet...I'm not saying that Blizz aren't going to fix it, Hortus has said it will be addressed, but the question I suppose is when? Before 2.3 goes live? In 2.4? We can only wait and see.

And just to prove I'm not QQ'ing - there are some things I'm really looking forward to in this patch - priests getting fear ward, as well as improved mana regen and PW:S being affected by spell damage. Also the ability to buy season 1 arena gear as a BG reward is nice. Finally the reduction in XP needed to level between 20 and 60, and the increased XP reward from quests is welcome news!

Cheers,
Shane

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Yarr, the post is older than the bug, but I was using it to show that spamming is the way to go. Hortus said that the GCD being triggered was being addressed, eg, it was not intentional.

Haha, I didn't really think you personally were QQ'ing, just that the thread, and Serennia were blowing something that wasn't even an intended change way out of proportion. I however am just QQing. Warlock main. :(

I am looking forward to being able to farm my warrior a respectable weapon without being a blacksmith though!

Edit: I am the überscrub for the day. Managed to drown on my undead while posting this.

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Originally Posted by Phate

Edit: I am the überscrub for the day. Managed to drown on my undead while posting this.

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Especially if it was your warlock...unending breath much? =P

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Originally Posted by Trowabarton756

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Edit: I am the überscrub for the day. Managed to drown on my undead while posting this.

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Especially if it was your warlock...unending breath much? =P

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Baha, no, not that bad. My warlock is human. It's a warrior. But that's still 4 minutes. >.<

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Originally Posted by Phate

Baha, no, not that bad. My warlock is human. It's a warrior. But that's still 4 minutes. >.<

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Touche Mr Swanson, touche....

This is quite annoying, I spent quite a long time creating a "sonar ping" addon to get myself in sync with this stupid new method of casting spells. I don't see any good support for this since various spells have different cooldown triggers it seems (nerf hammer of wrath)

It definitely makes combat seem melee is a lot like LOTRO where everyone fights like a Paladin (simple auto attack, and a buffing of your 'attack mode' with a spell) versus the arcade like feel WoW has had for melee.

ShadowStep -> Sinister strike, oh sorry pressed SS to soon 1.5 second delay.

Unloading everyone upfront for mages/locks? PoM, Pyro, fireblast, cone of cold, whatever ... most likely going to PoM your fireblast but between the two your going to have a 1.5 second extra delay. Why? Because you pressed pyro to fast between PoM and fireblast like you have for the last few years and you get a 1.5second hit for doing that and the fireblast comes off.

Sunder Sunder <needless pause because I pressed sunder to fast> Sunder Sunder.

Playing the game at 300 baud sucks.

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Originally Posted by Fursphere

Only a small percentage of WoW players bitch, either here, the official forums, etc.

If they polled the entire population, which I'm sure is *easy* to do, since they own the software, they could just ask their *paying* customers what they want, and let majority vote.

As I said before, I think playing a melee class just became an exercise in futility.

Or what about that saving heal on a raid boss. Why did we wipe? PLayer X pushed the button .2 secs too fast. :roll:

Stupid game change. Again reinforcing my argument that WoW is just a subscription based open beta.

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Democracy only works if the people know what they want. Just like in the USA, too much of the populous is uneducated, and incapable of determining what would actually be good for them. If the devs let the majority decide on whatever they wanted, everyone would get free epics, and level 70s, etc, etc, and the game would die in a month when everyone got bored.

Political rantings aside, at the end of the day, it's Blizzard's game, not ours. Obviously it's in their best interest to make it an enjoyable game for us, but it's their prerogative to take the game in whichever direction they choose.

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Originally Posted by Fursphere

Your argument is like saying the people could vote and say "no taxes! weeeeeeee!"

Obviously the poles would have to be on subjects that allowed for intelligent changes to the game, not game breaking changes (ie: free-epix 4 all).

I really didn't think I needed to point this out, but thats what I get for assuming. :roll:

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*shrug* they already do that. That's why the devs spend so much time in the class forums. Believe it or not, they do take into account player wants, they just don't weigh them too heavily with how they want the game to go. They typically consider player concerns, then discard them in favour of their concerns. The player desires are known, they simply don't care that much. not really faulting them for it, as I said, it's their game.

Well it looks like Blizz didn't fix it, and it went live - depsite Hortus' comments to the contrary.

And the player base is not happy:
http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/th...56225038&sid=1
Up to 150 pages already...

Cheers,
Stealthy

Theorycrafting. If anything it increases our dps since multiboxers can't use /stopcasting macros.