Recent Wave of Account Actions

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Originally Posted by Percocet10n1

For instance. I searched out this recent activity of suspensions and bans via the WoW forums. Everyone that I came a crossed was closed. Meaning even if you went to complain via the forum's about what is happening to you, blizzard doesn't really care

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yeah, I disagree.

whenever you start with "X happened [or didn't happen] on the public forums therefore Y" you're on the wrong track.

I would venture to say a for-profit company does care when you cancel your account considering you just stopped paying them. They won't make a instant or drastic change to something overnight because a couple multiboxers unsubbed. Responses from multiple GMs have stated the development team is looking into it.

I take it that 40 man boxer doesn't get suspended. Saw his stream available today.

I have yet to receive any type of suspension

They do care.
They want to make a profit, and every account counts towards that end.

If you cancel your accounts, they want to know why.
Presumably, so they can change so others like you won't cancel too.

That said, any given account is a drop in the bucket.
If you do cancel, it isn't really going to be hurting Blizzard by any large amount.

Ultimately, they'll do whatever is in the best interests of the game, in terms of what will get the most subscription dollars.

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Originally Posted by Fat Tire

I take it that 40 man boxer doesn't get suspended. Saw his stream available today.

I have yet to receive any type of suspension

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Not really relevant since probably every GM knows who that person is. If I had to guess, I'd say that guy has been reported at least 10 times every single time he's logged in and moved anywhere.

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Originally Posted by Percocet10n1

For instance. I searched out this recent activity of suspensions and bans via the WoW forums. Everyone that I came a crossed was closed. Meaning even if you went to complain via the forum's about what is happening to you, blizzard doesn't really care.

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I have to disagree with this as well. Account issues are a private matter and a public forum is not a place people should seek assistance. Most people know this and they would have been assisted with any account issues via a ticket attached to their BNet account or a phone call, not a forum post.

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Originally Posted by Fat Tire

I take it that 40 man boxer doesn't get suspended. Saw his stream available today.

I have yet to receive any type of suspension

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Spoke with him right after i got suspended, he said he would try AV the next day, The next day he wrote me and said he had a few accts suspended while he was in av. So it affected him as well. Since my first suspension me and derek have been runnin bgs with no problems tho. The gm i finally spoke with said my account actions were amended and hanvt had any problems. they way i look at it if it starts happening to me ill keep playing. in the end if all my accounts get shut down then it will save me $285 a month so its whatever really.

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Originally Posted by Percocet10n1

For you guys that are cancelling your subs. While I canceled my sub because the game changed to make it so I couldn't enjoy the game anymore I would like to think I was sending a message to blizzard that they will be loosing my business unless things change. That being said, we are by far in the minority. Realistically saying cancelling our subs, or even if all the boxers out there cancelled their subs it would probably not come up on the radar. We are just flea's on a elephant's back.

For instance. I searched out this recent activity of suspensions and bans via the WoW forums. Everyone that I came a crossed was closed. Meaning even if you went to complain via the forum's about what is happening to you, blizzard doesn't really care. They won't talk about in a public forum other then saying that yes, multi-boxing is allowed. But try to fix an issue where you are being what is in my opinion harassed or targeted via the game mechanics and they will not even acknowledge that you exist. Understand that the WoW community is not a democracy, and that it is more like a dictatorship. What they say or don't say goes. You, as an individual do not have much input when it comes down to the bottom dollar as a boxer.

So if you are closing your accounts, or taking some time off, realize that blizzard really doesn't care. Do it because you don't want to waste your money on a game that has changed and isn't fun for you to play anymore. If you can't find another aspect of the game, other then BG's to enjoy about the game then turn it off. Move on and enjoy your life.

Don't close your accounts because you want to make blizzard to know that you as an individual customer are not happy. They don't care. I would personally like to think that blizzard as an entity would consider me closing my 5 accounts a big deal, but realistically my 5 accounts are all ready paid for. They are just loosing out on monthly charges and there are way too many single account players to make up for my little insignificant protest.

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I cancelled my subs every month and said it was due to rogues being OP in PvP... then they got nerfed hard for MoP... coincidence? I don't care, still happy lol :P

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Originally Posted by valkry

I cancelled my subs every month and said it was due to rogues being OP in PvP... then they got nerfed hard for MoP... coincidence? I don't care, still happy lol :P

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For years I always chose "Will of the Forsaken Nerf" every time I needed to unsub. They left that one on there for ages.

It never got buffed :(

Someone else higher in the chain of authority @ blizzard probably doesn't even know about this or how it has affected us multiboxers. Perhaps we should send a few Emails to their senior programmers :)
They are just focusing on the automation of suspending the true botters, thus "in effect" affecting us by this new method. I find it difficult to believe with their technology, they are unable to flag our accounts as "ok'd" accounts for boxing. They have IP's they can track, account payment tracking, ect... I'm certain the bottling ratio to legit boxers is huge, thus making it easier to flag our accounts as being ok.

While we are just "fleas on an elephants back" as it was said before, if those fleas reach a particular area of that elephant, this would most likely be looked into a little deeper.

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Originally Posted by Ñightsham

Someone else higher in the chain of authority @ blizzard probably doesn't even know about this or how it has affected us multiboxers. Perhaps we should send a few Emails to their senior programmers :)
They are just focusing on the automation of suspending the true botters, thus "in effect" affecting us by this new method. I find it difficult to believe with their technology, they are unable to flag our accounts as "ok'd" accounts for boxing. They have IP's they can track, account payment tracking, ect... I'm certain the bottling ratio to legit boxers is huge, thus making it easier to flag our accounts as being ok.

While we are just "fleas on an elephants back" as it was said before, if those fleas reach a particular area of that elephant, this would most likely be looked into a little deeper.

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Without account flags the automated system would need to be turned off. Also they'd need to individually investigate every "multi-boxer" to prove that are indeed a boxer but after that point you'd be able to freely bot or whatever since your account would basically be immune to that punishment due to the mechanics of the system at that point. That would also require an initial ban and appeal to get it done which in itself is a bad system and unfair to us.

Has anyone here been hit that doesn't play a melee class in bgs? (any melee at all)