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Originally Posted by Nezreck
Grats. A case of mistaken identity perhaps. I definitely wouldn't be out gathering or BoE farming anytime soon.
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Originally Posted by Nezreck
Grats. A case of mistaken identity perhaps. I definitely wouldn't be out gathering or BoE farming anytime soon.
Always a relief. Happy hunting. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Nezreck
Wow grats man. Is this the part where you can legitimately ask for compensation for an unjust ban maybe? I think that's how customer service works...
possibly, but i just want the 6mil gold i had returned :P i'm good after that lol
Gratz, sounds like someone who understood the situation finally got a look at your case.
They are Customer Support, not Service. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Curryman
got my gold back :D
Nice to hear that they unbanned you, I also decided to give one more chance for my accounts and wrote a ticket aswell. I think I'm in worse situation as for me the bans are permanent and was accused of Abuse of the Economy rather than botting, even tho they said it was a 3rd party program the led to abuse of the economy. Funny.
What did you tell in your ticket before getting unbanned as you recevied the same response as me that the actions were correct and future appeals will not be checked.
my last 2 tickets we're copy paste of how i use all my addons etc, that's about it. I think i got lucky and the guy handling it took a little extra time out of his way to get a dev to check it out, he had said in the response.
Great news! Are you going back to BoE farming? :D
i think so yea, the gold is crazy good and i really want to get some more boosts and stuff :D, blew 3mil on a buddy today to move All 12 of his toons over too lol
I'm happy to hear that good news Nezreck! And you made your ticket ingame or via the website ?
Phew awesome, glad you got your accounts back :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Nezreck
did all my tickets through the battle.net website, And thanks :D
Thats awesome news! good for you buddy!
@Nezreck thank god! That is great news! Maybe an update to the thread name is in order for those who don't make it to the last page ;)
Another friend of mine was banned, I helped him with the tickets and he (after 6 weeks) recieved the apology + reimbursement.
Crazy huh?
I really wish we could establish some proper dialogue, maybe (as a group) collect logs of our gameplay and send it in?
@fat tire
I guess for some it's an alternative playstyle. Some pvp, some pve and some farm gold. Although these days there are pleny of mounts that cost millions so it's good fun.
Gratd for getting unbanned.
Some kind of recommended "official template" would be awesome, which include some kind of cross check list of things to maybe include in a complaint.
And make it sticky :p
This is exactly what bot programs have on their forums. I'm sure that would help a lot.....Quote:
Originally Posted by WOWBOX40
Looking like a collective mass is not a positive in this type of situation. You're trying to look like a person playing a game.
Ehhh templates suck. The only advice to give is don't waste your tickets.
Really pumped it was overturned.
Don't be so hard on yourself. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Fat Tire
Congrats!Quote:
Originally Posted by Nezreck
Ok..Im going to abandon gnomesequencer now to be safe when static farming...you never know..
Some of like farming for gold. It's a play style in itself and many of us like doing itQuote:
Originally Posted by Fat Tire
What, exactly, is "playing normally"? Just about everyone I know plays differently. Some raid, some PvP, some farm gold, some never leave the AH and just flip things all day long. To each their own and I don't think there is a normal in such an expansive and diverse synthetic world.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fat Tire
Additionally, what is "plenty of gold'? I have millions at a time and it's not enough. I always want more and there is always something I can spend it on if I choose to do so. Others may be fine with a few thousand gold or just enough to pay for a few things they must have. Others still look at my millions and think damn, how can anyone get by with that!?
What? I can afford to box because I don't have to pay cash for WoW subs, xpacs, game licenses, etc. I haven't spent a dime in real money on WoW since I could buy battlenet balance with tokens. The ONLY real money I spend to play WoW is my Inner Space sub.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fat Tire
WTH is wrong with profit? My entire goal in WoW is profit. It is my play style. I don't raid, I rarely pvp, I don't care about most of the quests and such other than on one account that I started with over a decade ago. The whole point in me playing is to master the economy and make as much gold as I can in as many ways as I can. Farming, AH, crafting, whatever. I like it all - FOR PROFIT.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fat Tire
What is circumventing the play style? If it's within the rules, who cares? Everyone can play however the hell they wish. The only thing I see about that that is sad is being so upset about what other people do.
Whilst I've been typing this I am also hitting the 7, 8, 9, 0 keys to skin obs that some other multi-boxer if farming.
Grats, Nezreck!Quote:
Originally Posted by Nezreck
I've never been banned other than absurd chat bans for being abusive by replying to someone who was actually abusive! lol So I don't do that anymore, hell I don't even use the occasional expletive even in direct chats/my guild channels anymore. People are way to sensitive these days. Or maybe they aren't at all and just get a kick out of the perception of power they get by pretending to be offended all the time. Who knows.
CongratsQuote:
Originally Posted by Nezreck
That's amazing @Nezreck. Congrats and welcome back!Quote:
Originally Posted by Nezreck
Well, I've been prepping to reactivate my teams for a couple weeks now. Congrats on getting unbanned. As far as I've seen, every thread about banning has so far resulting in the ban being overturned. While that is sort of good news, it is annoying that boxers seems to be getting mis-banned fairly often now.
I'm going to re-up, probably tonight. I must say that among my first options will be to post tickets on each battlenet account re-stating that 1) I am a boxer. 2) I do not automate. and 3) I fully expect people to file false reports on this account. So, please place whatever note you need to on these accounts to avoid improper banning.
A false report is still a false report. It is not what gets you banned. It is what gets you looked at closer than without being reported.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brandish
If you track through all teh reports of being banned on here enough, you'll see a trend. People hyperspawn farming for the most part.
Seems more widespread than hyperspawn farming.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nezreck
those are hyperspawn mobsQuote:
Originally Posted by Brandish
I find myself here in the same situation you were just in. I too was at the island with the venture co. mobs. 2nd day there actually. Have been 5 box farming for 8 months. And last month I decided to go to 8 to do 2x4 farming. I have countless hours and time into farming, as thats what I enjoy. I suffer from insomnia along with other things which makes it impossible to sleep at times. So I keep odd hours or long hours. I have farmed alot, I have seen ALOT of "reported for botting" or "reported scum". I typically do not sit at my computer while I farm. I have a bluetooth keyboard and mouse and typically sit 8-10 feet away from it and watch netflix, tv, or play click to play games on my laptop. I never noticed or seen any kind of GM check other then my characters died at some point, I seen this and got to the pc to start reviving them, and Dc'ed. Dcing happens once or twice a day, Idk why. Could just be my internet. But I did not try to log back in right away as I dont always. I grabbed some food and a shower and less then a hour later, tried to log in. suspended on all 8 under that bnet. My other 3 accounts are fine. But everything and I mean EVERYTHING I have worked hard for since 2006 is on that account.
Including 50-60m worth of items in my mailbox. Which will be gone when this suspension is up. I know mistakes happen especially when it comes to boxing. I have had 2 appeals denied, both responses feel very automated by blizzard, and just automatically closed. For 12-13 years I have been a very upstanding member of the community and have never had any marks on my account. I feel like my whole world is just over. I will lose everything I have worked for the past 2-3 years from farming all over a people reporting me for multiboxing. I had just purchased 6 months of game time. the longboi mount and so much more. I feel like there is nothing I can do with this. With blizzard not having any kind of customer support such as email, live chat, or phone, Im basically up the creek with out a paddle. I could use a break from wow. I have gotten to be a little more into it lately. But losing everything I have is just killing me.
Congrats on your over turned ban, But this is a major issue with the boxing community and blizzard needs to change their ways of this or just dont allow it all together. In one of my appeal responses I was told that no 3rd party software including add ons were allowed. I have since found that isboxer is NOT an approved addon but has just been said by GMs and blue posts that iwas "considered" ok. But in this case, and many more it is not.
12-13 years of wow years of my life actually in /played and I feel like my life is over. There is no way id compromise that or jeopardize it in any way. Anyways, just thought Id share
This is botting.Quote:
Originally Posted by seclusioned
No, it isnt. As I have the keyboard and am doing the actions my self.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jabberie
There are many people who do this. I can even reference posts made on this very forum where people state they do this
Ill just edit here and post one of the many posts on here I have found where people do this
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Originally Posted by WOWBOX40
Calling it a "major issue" is quite a stretch, seeing as the vast majority of multiboxers, in WoW, have been multiboxing without any problems for years. It's only recently become a "major issue" for those who want to engage in mindless, AFK farming, and even then, there are plenty who've not had any problems continuing to do so.Quote:
Originally Posted by seclusioned
First, there is no such thing as an "approved" add-on; Blizzard provides the API and add-on developers use it. If an add-on operates within Blizzard's Lua sandbox, then it's "approved."Quote:
Originally Posted by seclusioned
Second, Blizzard has never, in the history of World of Warcraft, banned anyone for using an add-on that relied entirely on the API that they allow their playerbase to openly utilize.
Out of everyone who multiboxes in WoW, those who engage in stand-still or mostly-AFK farms are certainly the vast minority, and, while this might sound harsh, you will find little sympathy from most on this forum when it comes to defending action taken against those who participate in stand-still, AFK farms, as a multiboxer.Quote:
Originally Posted by seclusioned
Also, the person you quoted has been called out on this forum for heavily misleading and misinformed statements before, so they're probably not the best person to be relying on as evidence of anything.
You are not in control of the characters. If you are investigated while sitting on your couch, you're banned. No questions asked.Quote:
Originally Posted by seclusioned
I told him he was stupid as well.
I think we can probably sum up this thread for future visitors or reporters as: "If you do bot-like or gold-farmer-like things, especially semi-afk stuff where you really aren't paying much attention, expect to have a bad day eventually. If you're *really* polite and complete on your appeals, you have a good chance of getting it overturned. Still, Blizzard is not the judicial system -- don't get bent out of shape when you realize Blizzard runs an invite-only club."
Sad to hear you got banned :(
I dont know which wireless keyboard you have. Maybe it has some software they dont approve? Is it possible to setup so that it spams key commands if you press and hold a button down? If thats the case, thats obviously a big nono.
Im actually doing the excact same thing as ive always been: pressing the boring standard keyboard with a usb extension cable, while im either in bed or sitting in the sofa. No "added keyboard software".
Its not AFK farming, but "away from monitor" farming.
Though i did some changes since i told you guys i was doing this way back.
1. i got 4 big mirrors setup so that im able to see the monitors from my bedroom.
2. i have a giant mirror in my livingroom, so im able to see the monitors when i sit or lay in the sofa.
This way im able to see if anything obvious happens, like one game getting logged out.
Though, most i have ever seen anything happen the last 4-5 months, is random games "disconnecting". At most 1 or 2 games per "long afternoon" farming session. But this lasted for around 3 weeks, a couple months back. Now it almost never happen. And i always visit my monitors every 25-30 min, just to see if anyone has gotten any "new" checks. But ive noticed nothing. And i havent seen the "wtf is happening, no keys work, have to relog game to fix it", since that happened often for a couple weeks or so back in april/may.
These days ive only seen "1 random disconnect" on average around like every 20 hours worth of playing. Its like Blizzard just does the odd check, "just in case".
I usually farm 3 hours like this "almost every day".
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You could say im "properly legit" now, since i have the mirrors set up ;)
I can "see" the monitors! :P
Btw...hm, as im no longer farming in fully public locations, and there are rarely any other players passing by, this also means less rapports towards me, i would imagine. Less rapports = less bot checks, possibly. Who knows.
Reason im checking the games atleast within every 30 min, is because thats the amont of time you have, if you afk ingame and you get automatically logged out. If you go to the toilet and the characters just stand there doing nothing, but you got botchecked while "afk irl" (but the characters are not afk ingame) at the bathroom etc, if you "reply" within 30 min = you should be good. Just a minor "safety net" plan of my own. Worked so far atleast.
It also appears that blizzard will never tell you the excact reason you got banned. This is so that you cant know for sure how they got you, if you did use illigal software etc.
For some reason, lately people got banned for using a vpn. Which ive never used, but i see major tech youtubers often promote it for internet privacy / security reasons.
I believe this thread has run it's course. If you're looking for a TL;DR I'd suggest this bit from Ughmahedhurtz:
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Originally Posted by Ughmahedhurtz