World of Warcraft Classic Discussion Megathread

I think at this point there isn't enough data to make a call. The big "ifs" in my opinion are:

Will there be IWT?
Will there be a balance pass, or will classes be as they were?

If you're after gold, then I imagine for the first six months of the server's life you'll want to farm humanoids for raw gold plus cloth drops. Tyr's Hand or running a group of 5 through dungeons might be the most lucrative.

As far as group comps go? With no balance changes and IWT, then Warriors will without question be the best class for everything. They scaled better than every other class with gear, and they were the best (read: only) tanks. Without IWT, then Mages will probably be the best. Even with the larger debuff limits, Warlocks and Hunters lagged pretty far behind Mages for damage; we should probably not even talk about Druids.

If they do a balance pass, then everything's up in the air. All of the classes were pretty trivial to play compared to today's standards, so pick the one with the best looking T2 set? :)

If no iwt .. ill do warrior tank..priest healer(or holy pal?), mage, warlock and hunter. Remember, buffs will matter! if IWT .. no idea.. warriors with a pal healer?

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Originally Posted by Mosg2

Shaman weren't OP at all in vanilla. I mean, you needed one for Bloodlust in raiding, but they weren't good healers or damage dealers, so unless they do a pass on balance (which seems unlikely to me) it'd be unwise to roll a group of'em.

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There is no bloodlust in vanilla. And 5 shaman is a known vanilla composition that is OP for pvp.

Back in BC there were totem stacking bugs, while solo the shamans were not so good but five of them were OP. I did not multibox in Vanilla but I did play and if you saw a multiboxer they were usually five shamans.

I actually started boxing when I saw a team of five shaman and thought it was so cool, and a Google search brought be here to a post from Ellay on totem stacking. While I cant find the post here I still remember the shamans.

Classic Demo pre-download available in < 24 hours.

https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20769718053

Also, in case you missed the second Dev Watercooler post.

https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/ne...-blizzcon-demo

I'll stick to my favourite Xzin Setup I started multiboxing with ages ago (1 Priest + 4 Locks)

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Originally Posted by Asterix

I'll stick to my favourite Xzin Setup I started multiboxing with ages ago (1 Priest + 4 Locks)

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I thought he played mages? It will be fun to try different combos. I only two boxed vanilla, ( alt tab FTL ). I didn't find out about software for 5 boxing until BC.

Xzin was 4 mages and a priest. There were barely any 5 boxing players back in vanilla it was just too hard to pull off with hardware and software requirements. By the time BC rolled around it gained popularity and was more functional.

A screenshot from someone who got the classic client running shows an interact with target keybind

Not sure if I'm allowed to post links to external websites please remove if that is not allowed

https://www.wowhead.com/news=288144/...hots:288144:20

ill just leave this here!

https://i.imgur.com/rJaCp0x.jpg

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Originally Posted by theemus

A screenshot from someone who got the classic client running shows an interact with target keybind

Not sure if I'm allowed to post links to external websites please remove if that is not allowed

https://www.wowhead.com/news=288144/...hots:288144:20

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Whelp.. what do I name my warriors? lol

Does a blizzcon virtual ticket hold the only way to get into the demo? And does one ticket on a bnet account give you access for all accounts on that bnet?

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Originally Posted by Mokoi

Does a blizzcon virtual ticket hold the only way to get into the demo? And does one ticket on a bnet account give you access for all accounts on that bnet?

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I can confirm that Classic is unlocked for all accounts on the bnet with the ticket. I can also confirm that ISBoxer works with the demo without requiring any updates. :)

A virtual ticket or an actual ticket are the only ways to get the demo, from the info on the Blizzcon site.

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Originally Posted by Mokoi

And does one ticket on a bnet account give you access for all accounts on that bnet?

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As Ebony and Lax said, yes.

https://i.imgur.com/qxBrSQB.png

Also, there are 20 realms listed for BlizzCon:

https://i.imgur.com/H0oWawG.png


However, I find it odd that they overlooked the fact that you could just get around the "limited play time" hurdle by just having multiple WoW licenses on your BNet account. If multiboxing is actually going to be a thing with this demo, I have a feeling it's going to be somewhat difficult seeing that there will not only be a lot of people jammed into a single zone, but loot that drops from mobs isn't shared with the entire party, and so you're going to blow through that limited time you've got trying to get half of a quest completed.

Personally, I expect that I'll just be going in solo, but if they relax the restrictions at some point then maybe I'll fire up a DPS + Healer duo or something. The thing is, if the add-on or macro system is left out of this build, then those with ISBoxer are going to need to manually configure their setup.

It seems i got 5 accounts on wow classic demo as i have for wow retail. For information i only bought one ticket.

Same with 8 accounts. This does raise the question (unless it's already been answered somewhere else) is the payment model: 1 sub gives both BFA & Classic?

If it was going to be a separate sub then I would expect to see only 1 classic demo entry in the games list - just sayin' ;)

The way I read it on one of the blue threads or discussions or something was that a full sub got you everything, whereas a classic sub would be cheaper for just that access.

I bought the blizzcon ticket awhile back. Been checking my account every day, no sign of any classic there or on the battlenet launcher.. i just realized i cancelled my subscription awhile back, as im paying with gold instead.. dont tell me they ofcourse also require a subscription AND a blizzcon ticket in order to play vanilla demo.. greedy b..... :P

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Originally Posted by WOWBOX40

I bought the blizzcon ticket awhile back. Been checking my account every day, no sign of any classic there or on the battlenet launcher.. i just realized i cancelled my subscription awhile back, as im paying with gold instead.. dont tell me they ofcourse also require a subscription AND a blizzcon ticket in order to play vanilla demo.. greedy b..... :P

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You can setup a subscription and as long as you have gametime it will never charge that credit card. So it wont really cost you any money and you can still play with tokens.

But make sure you're looking in the right spot, the classic demo is not found on the left game list, its in the drop down box where you would select your b.net account.

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Originally Posted by WOWBOX40

I bought the blizzcon ticket awhile back. Been checking my account every day, no sign of any classic there or on the battlenet launcher.. i just realized i cancelled my subscription awhile back, as im paying with gold instead.. dont tell me they ofcourse also require a subscription AND a blizzcon ticket in order to play vanilla demo.. greedy b..... :P

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If you have bnet app running in your system tray... close it and re-launch. I had to do that before i had the classic server option in the drop down menu

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Originally Posted by WOWBOX40

I bought the blizzcon ticket awhile back. Been checking my account every day, no sign of any classic there or on the battlenet launcher.. i just realized i cancelled my subscription awhile back, as im paying with gold instead.. dont tell me they ofcourse also require a subscription AND a blizzcon ticket in order to play vanilla demo.. greedy b..... :P

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I have just gt on main account the alts did not have gt and 3 not had gametime for months and they do not have bfa and the demo still showed for them!

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Originally Posted by Lax

I can also confirm that ISBoxer works with the demo without requiring any updates. :)

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Yeeeeeeee so pumped.

Pretty excited about this :)

This thread makes me think of good ol' days, makes me want to try out 4x Shamans or Priest + Mages like Xzin or Ellay from way back when, lol.

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Originally Posted by Ellay

Xzin was 4 mages and a priest. There were barely any 5 boxing players back in vanilla it was just too hard to pull off with hardware and software requirements. By the time BC rolled around it gained popularity and was more functional.

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Yeah, his main setup was the holypriest + mage combo but afair he had a 'fun' video of him joking around in the undead starting zone with a priest and 4 warlocks where he was just running around and multi DOTting up everything in his way with instant casts.


shame on me if I remember something wrong and it wasn't his video.


but that video was the one that hooked me. I started figuring out how all this stuff works, imported (yeah right from the US to the EU) several hardware (yeah, was hardware boxing at that time) and set it all up after I got registered here.


anyone remember PI Engineering?
The PS/2 Y-Keyboard Adapter?
Or the X-Keys?


Good old times.


some pics for the nostalgia:

https://imgur.com/a/sK3T8Nx

https://imgur.com/a/rbkZvyG

Ahh yes, the days of X-Keys and Vetra multiplexers lol. Also, while slightly off topic, did Xzin ever finally post a picture of his setup?, i remember that being a running discussion that usually took place with everyone speculating on just how awesome it was.

I remember using multiple computers ;)

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Originally Posted by EaTCarbS

I remember using multiple computers ;)

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ohhh yes! I did not use multiple machines as my computer could handle 5 - somewhere in Wotlk expansion.

I'm pretty pumped! I loved Vanilla WoW, BC and Wotlk. Taking Friday off, I bought the ticket and I think i have to Re-Sub to WoW for a month! which is fine. I do have BFA expansions, I believe 6. But I can't get into it. I think because I don't have as much time as I used to and never can catch up with gear. etc, so I un-subbed for months! I'm pretty sure if everything goes as planed my team will be. 1-Priest 4x Warlocks, or 5 Shamans! :)

Let's everyone update anything they find :)

Anyone Ever thought of this team? Mage could be frost spec, and make food, teleports, Priest could buff and bubble.
1x Shadow Priest, 1x Mage, 3x Warlocks - But I'm still thinking about 5x orc shamans :) Totem quest line!

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Originally Posted by Ellay

Xzin was 4 mages and a priest. There were barely any 5 boxing players back in vanilla it was just too hard to pull off with hardware and software requirements. By the time BC rolled around it gained popularity and was more functional.

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COuld go that but when i played Vanilla I was a shadow priest, two undead shadow priests (me and my friend) we would dot the enemy up and use also the racial on the undead spell and my the time the dots ran out of them they would die. I remember using my wand alot of the time in the lower levels lol.

I also did the aoe grind on the frost mage ;)

I might try that combo or 5 hunters probably stay alliance unless I hook up with my buddies again and play horde, not really sure what side ill push.

THou five shammies are tempting

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Originally Posted by Kojiiko

I remember using my wand alot of the time in the lower levels lol.

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lmao...I remember doing that too after applying DoTs.

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Originally Posted by Kojiiko

I also did the aoe grind on the frost mage ;)

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I had forgotten about that. Those slimes in Maraudon were an interesting thing for a week or two before they got nerfed.

Best one was we would go over to the starting point at the alliance graveyard up at the top and we would actually mind control ppl out of the portal meaning that they had left the BGs we laughed so much over that!!

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Back to planning. Nothing to do in bfa. Bored to death all day. This happens :

My first group is going to be something like this for farming dungeons and getting started in general.

1.Paladin tank (11/32/8)
https://classicdb.ch/?talent#sE0zZVhtIxzVoV0h

- Runs retribution aura (or other)
- Buffs sanctuary on himself
- Buffs kings to rest

2.Paladin heal (33/11/7)
https://classicdb.ch/?talent#sVxubgstxMuZVb

- Runs improved devotion aura
- Buffs kings to tank
- Buffs improved wisdom to rest
- Judges light/wisdom on boss/elite

I would like to run improved retribution aura for more
aoe damage but sacrificing kings for it seems not worth it.
Guess you cant have everything ;)

3. Mage
4. Mage
5. Mage

3x CC, int buff, food and portals. /nice

Yeah no idea with the mages talents. Spamming arcane explosion or blizzard.
Any suggestions? What does more damage? How would the talent tree look like?
On the paper i really like going 31 arcane but i never played a mage in classic before
so i cant say what would be more effective =)

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One problem with this setup is the lack of an offensive dispel. Remember, mages didn't have spellsteal in vanilla. There are several PvE encounters where not having the ability to purge will be annoying.

You could solve this problem by swapping one of your paladins for a priest which are arguably better healers in classic anyway. A priest can do everything a paladin can do and more -- with the exception of wearing plate and a shield. You can also spec your paladin to be a viable 5man tank while still having the key talents to swap into holy gear for PvP without needing to pay for a respec (20/31/0.)

You might also consider swapping one of the mages for a warlock for curse of the elements (+10% magic damage, -75fire/frost resist.)

This will give you more hp (fortitude, imp HP aura), fire shield for your tank, AoE fear, purge and CC for demons and undead (banish/shackles.)

I was interested when I heard Blizzard start talking about official classic servers. The more information they released, the less interested I became. They're making too many changes from the API to the ruleset to provide an authentic vanilla experience. Perhaps I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure PvP boxing on classic servers will be as castrated as it has been for years on modern retail. Not worth re-subscribing to a service that offers me less than something I can play for free elsewhere.

Interact with target, baby!!!!!

:D

Auto Loot!!!

the demo cool down is shared at batte.net level!


but the sub inc in the main wow sub

and... its released in the summer this year!

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One problem with this setup is the lack of an offensive dispel. Remember, mages didn't have spellsteal in vanilla. There are several PvE encounters where not having the ability to purge will be annoying.

You could solve this problem by swapping one of your paladins for a priest which are arguably better healers in classic anyway. A priest can do everything a paladin can do and more -- with the exception of wearing plate and a shield. You can also spec your paladin to be a viable 5man tank while still having the key talents to swap into holy gear for PvP without needing to pay for a respec (20/31/0.)

You might also consider swapping one of the mages for a warlock for curse of the elements (+10% magic damage, -75fire/frost resist.)

This will give you more hp (fortitude, imp HP aura), fire shield for your tank, AoE fear, purge and CC for demons and undead (banish/shackles.)

I was interested when I heard Blizzard start talking about official classic servers. The more information they released, the less interested I became. They're making too many changes from the API to the ruleset to provide an authentic vanilla experience. Perhaps I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure PvP boxing on classic servers will be as castrated as it has been for years on modern retail. Not worth re-subscribing to a service that offers me less than something I can play for free elsewhere.

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I want this team to be build around the paladin tank for farming low level dungeons and aoe farming in general just to get started.Im going to build a second group with a warrior later. So i need those 2 paladins for auras and buffs like in my description. Sure priest is a better healer but this group is not meant to run raids or endcontent dungeons.There is no need for any offensive dispel or something. Also no PvP.

I could in deed switch a mage for a warlock but the big elefant question is still in the room : "can i quickly kill stuff like 55-57 trash packs with 3 mages spamming arcane explosions?"

Two mages and one warlock could 1x rainoffire +2xblizzard. Would that be more damage? Need to have a look how to make this possible when driving with the paladin tank. I remember a mirai video about it i think...

So like i said its all about aoe damage on trash.

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Originally Posted by Apatheist

I was interested when I heard Blizzard start talking about official classic servers. The more information they released, the less interested I became. They're making too many changes from the API to the ruleset to provide an authentic vanilla experience. Perhaps I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure PvP boxing on classic servers will be as castrated as it has been for years on modern retail. Not worth re-subscribing to a service that offers me less than something I can play for free elsewhere.

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What changes are you talking about in particular?

They went out of their way to keep everything as it was as far as I understand so far. Remember they have to strip the current client to be as close to 1.12 as possible. So some things might not be technically possible.

Yea, we won't get all the fancy ADDON possibilities we used to have, but to be fair that was never really in the spirit of the game... decursive anyone?

This just in

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(11:05 AM PDT): @WarcraftDevs has just tweeted that the time limits on the Classic Demo are removed! You can play for as long as you want until November 8!

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This just in

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Any idea how to setup isboxer to test classic? I dont know what to fill in server wise when creating a character set =)
Something like game server name BlizzCon Classic 20 doesnt work.

I tested isboxer with classic, It seems to work, just had to create macro for follow :) made a quick video on YouTube with 5 warlocks.

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Originally Posted by sethlan

I tested isboxer with classic, It seems to work, just had to create macro for follow :) made a quick video on YouTube with 5 warlocks.

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Show us the video? :)

so to get classic beta do I need to buy something ?