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Thanks for sharing that.
Haven't really looked at keybinds/hot keys to use yet.
Just ran the is-boxer wizard and traded gear across some toons to give everyone some starting yellow/blue stuff.
That and read a lot of posts for D3 and watched some movies too.
Minor tweaks to my hotkeys:
I made the pull hotkey reset exploding palm/cyclone strike as well; since usually when I need to re-cyclone in mid-fight I also end up with a new monster in front of me.
Changed punish's do not advance to 0.5 seconds before switching to fissure for 4 seconds.
So far my biggest issue is my monk going splat. She's not as durable as the crusaders. But its' getting better (more frequent application of Inner Sanctuary helps). Dev, any advice on gearing out a ZDPS monk? I remember you posting about strongarm bracers and some other synergistic legendaries, but I can't find it off hand.
Pastebin of mapped keys is here if anyone wants to take a look, though I doubt it's worth copying and modifying to suit, probably faster to just make your own. I tend to create lots of keymaps; it helps me keep track of what the spam button is supposed to do.
I also have a global keymap you might find inspirational where I have the actual keybindings, a show/hide vfx keymap, and create minimap/health/resource viewers and sources. This is so I don't have to mess with viewers or keybinds whenever I make a new team.
I'm half afraid one of the ISBoxer guru's will come along and tell me I'm doing something the wrong way, or there's something in there that's horribly broken=p
My ZDPS monk has:
Helm: Aughild's
Shoulders: Aughild's
Amulet: Blackthorne's
Chest: Blackthorne's
Bracers: Strongarms
Gloves: Asheara's
Belt: Blackthorne's
Pants: Asheara's
Boots: Asheara's
Ring1: RoRG
Ring2: Anything with IAS and Crit
Weap1: The Fist of Az'Turrasq
Weap2: Sledge Fist or Azurewrath
All sockets with Diamonds, weapons with Amethysts. Skills:
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculato...Rk!bXVa!cYZacY
I haven't added CDR to my items yet, but with 50% u have Inner Sanctuary every 4 secs which is very good. I will prolly ditch the 4 piece effect from Asheara's and Blackthorne's to add Captain's Belt + Pants. Inner Sanctuary + Laws of Justice Decaying Strenght should be enough to reduce all damage to a minimum.
Now, I didn't add Physical Damage to my items, but according to this thread and others in official forums, it does add damage to Exploding Palm explosion so I will change my items a bit. Maybe use a DoomBringer instead of the Sledge Fist and add diamonds to my weapons instead of amethysts. Also add some area damage somewhere.
I suppose you could combine Aughild's, BT, and captains. Might not be worth it though.
I swapped punish to consecration / shattered ground on round robin. My survivability went up. Or rather, the rate at which my monk goes splat was decreased.
4 crusaders. Blessed shield shattering rune thingy as my main attack (no generator) with shield of extra bounces ;)
To supplement that I use two wrath generators provoke (charged up for some extra damage) and shield glare with wrath per mob rune.
For some extra dmg for elites I use heaven's fury and bombardment.
Last skill is AC with firestarter. When it stacks a few times on rift bosses they just melt away.
My Crusaders project is on standby for now since I'm back to WDs doing T6 easy mode. I'll post my build soon.
Slightly off topic; but I got my 4th str/vit Cindercoat lastnight. So I'm thinking maybe leveling up some barbs; since the fire builds for 'saders are a bit overwhelming.
We seem to always cross post back and forth but Devile I'm interested on the WD build your using for T6. I did T4 after the patch which felt the same as T3, but I still felt somewhat weak.
*edit - I just saw a thread concerning this exact topic.. ignore.
Got a maximus; it revitalized my interest in Crusaders. So now I'm on a quest to get 3 more. [Seems like the Chains would have decent synergy with cyclone] Plus I think having 3 demons fire chained to my cluster of toons would just look awesome.
It would also be nice to get a fate of the fell / eberli charo to play around with.
Or heck, some more Foote's / Jenkaboards.
In other news, I went up to Torment 3 and seem to be doing it fairly comfortably.
grumble.
I have been looking for the Fate of the Fell as well, in that time I have 4 Maximus's and it's kind of hilarious with quad chains but I will note I don't play it effectively. Crusaders actually feel like a ranged class.
mumble mumble, jumped the gun on wrong info, edited.
Working on my no generator ZDPS monk to resume the Crusaders project but with mixed party. I'll report later how it goes.
I couldn't wait for your report, so I swapped out my main guy to a monk. So 1x Monk and 3x CrusadersQuote:
Originally Posted by Devile
I known almost nothing about Monks, but I tried to use a cold spec. My Monk is using almost all str drops reforged.
Any feedback would be awesome.
Key items for the monk: (I think)
1) Frostburn - chill effects will freeze the target 42% chance. Although I read it only procs off of ele cold weapons, so I found a weapon and reforged to cold damage.
2) Azurewrath - chance to freeze target
3) Strongarm Bracers - 30% more damage on knockback
Here is the spec: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculato...fj!bhUV!YYacZb
Here is the monk: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/K.../hero/30050343
So I basically spam cyclone strike every 3 or 4 seconds
Spam crippling wave
Strongarm keeps up 30% more damage to mobs, since I always have cyclone strike up.
Unity passive gives 20% more damage to group
Inner Sanc gives the group 55% damage reduction for 6 seconds out of ~15 seconds
Inner Sanc causes mobs inside to take 30% more damage for 6 seconds out of ~15 seconds
Blinding Flash 30% chance for elites to miss for 3 seconds out of ~11 seconds and heals group
In addition, Mobs appear to freeze quite a bit. I was able to just take my monk in T6 4 player and go into a pack of whites and spam my keys, and I never got close to getting killed.
I tried T6 and it was actually pretty easy with the monk and Crusaders. I did die a couple times in the rift because I stood in the fire, but stuff went down VERY VERY fast. Killing stuff was not a problem, even the rift guardian went down pretty quick.
Any suggestions on the monk build? My crusaders are all running Fate of the Fell, 50% reduction shield, Akarats Champ gear. So they basically stand pull stuff in and AOE.
Did you notice you took out targets faster with the monk than using 4x Crusaders? I'm assuming with that gear you were able to do T6 prior.
I haven't updated my build yet since the one I used in the past is not very efficient compared to the "no generator" current builds. Keep in mind a few things:
- The Unity passive only benefits the monk's damage, not the party. That goes for several monk skills/passive so keep that in mind. Only some skills can benefit the party.
- U are missing prolly the most important monk skill and the reason why it's used in most/all T6 efficient parties: Exploding Palm. Everything dies extremely fast with it, including elites. Paired with a Fist of Az'Turrasq is just brutal.
- U need to stack as much Physical Damage and Elite Damage as u can. That boosts the Exploding Palm explosion.
- Epiphany is an amazing skill. Not only it makes your monk Immune to all CC but the Soothing Mist rune heals your party for 20k+ for EVERY skill u cast during the Epiphany (15 secs). Not to mention that paired with Guiding Light passive, it gives a party buff up to 30% damage.
- I rather go with Mantra of Conviction for additional damage and mobility.
- If u have high CDR, u will be able to spam all those buffs/debuffs without the need of a generator since Epiphany gives 20 spirit regen per sec.
Monks suck right now. Everyone calls them followers because the only use for the class is support, nothing more. It's pointless to have any damage on them. Just use their party buffs/debuffs and stack as much toughness on them so they can support your party. The only damage u should care about in a monk right now is Elite Damage and Physical Damage. No DPS, no DEX. Roll the items on your barb so u stack STR everywhere. Stack a single resistance so u benefit from One with Everything passive. That way u will have high armor and high resistances.
With high CDR, those heals will keep everyone alive and with buffed DPS.
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Originally Posted by Devile
Are you sure about Unity? The description reads each ally gets 5% attack speed; though this would not perhaps apply to Mantra of Conviction since it doesn't hit allies.
I wasn't using Epiphany; but I could see switching it out for one of the generators. I'm confused though, because the generators in the traditionalish build add dps [breaking wave and then knockback through strongarm bracers]. The other 4 skills seem pretty static; so it'd be picking between one of the generators [as the no generator moniker seems to imply] for Epiphany. I'd be worried about Epiphany causing the monk to dash out of the stack though; since I sometimes drop Fissures that aren't immediately on top of my group [since not everything is sucked in all the time; its not every fight, but it happens]
Care to post a build?
This is the description for Unity:
As for Epiphany, sure, u can run into those issues, but the idea is to change your playstyle accordingly. U shouldn't be casting Fissures far from the group, instead Cyclone Strike and get those mobs close to u. Keep in mind I haven't fully tested this. I plan everything in my head first, then move to Excel for builds, get the items and then test. So it will take me a couple days since I mostly play on weekends.Quote:
Each ally affected by your Mantras increases your damage by 5%, up to a maximum of 20%, and has 5% increased damage.
As for a build/guide about no generator ZDPS, u can check this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3EfjJ8lqai0
His profile is here:
http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/K.../hero/42777107
U dont need Dashing Strike, so u can use a generator with long range like Deadly Reach, not because u need spirit, but to avoid teleporting around.
The and seems to imply otherwise:
Each ally affected by your Mantras [increases your damage by 5%, up to a maximum of 20%], and has 5% increased damage.
e.g. each ally does A and has B.
Interesting; I suppose you could also use something like seven sided strike and just save it for special occasions to avoid teleporting around.
You could also move something like EP onto primary [and not broadcast left click to the monk, mind you] and add something like breath of heaven - zephyr for the movement speed boost. [add it to your force-move key]. Since the goal is CDR over all; you could get a pretty decent uptime on zephyr. with this helm you could get 100% up time with a single monk; in theory. There are of course, other options. Pretty tempting.
The problem with adding a monk is that it makes your team melee ranged. With just pure crusaders I can range it up all day 40 yards away.
Let me know if the damage difference is noticable though. I have a monk I can swap in :)... I'll probably test this soon enough I imagine.
As for unity - here is the before and after on one of my crusaders:
It actually looks like it gives the monk 20%, but the crusaders around 5% boost. So not 20% per crusader.
http://screencast.com/t/FRELegg1jBg0
http://screencast.com/t/qEr7OZLbkd
As for my crusaders, they are all melee, they use fate of the fell with Heavens Fury, so I want them all in a big clump.
Here is a link to the 3 crusaders:
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/K.../hero/44419268
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/K.../hero/44419269
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/S.../hero/44419270
I haven't tried T6 with 4 crusaders recently since I've gotten a few more upgrades.
swapped my monk to this:
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculato...kX!bfcV!ZbcaYc
Seems to work about the same; bit zippier [yay zephyr]; about the same degree of durability; monk dies less. [Torment 3, I'm in rubbish gear compared to Kicksome though.] Prob going to swap my crusader's around a bit.
You don't have a wrath generator - do you ever run into wrath issues? I still don't have the 6 pc bonus on any of my crusaders so I'm guessing once that is achieved it becomes less of a reliance?
I don't either; I get wrath from reaper's wraps and Provoke/Charged Up.
RR the law that reduces costs help as well. Champion helps because it makes things melt [and theres the set bonus]. I don't use champion though, because no set and I have consecration round robin instead for survivability.
I don't generally run into wrath issues; when I do, I pop provoke. Part of it is a fissure + heaven's Fury + Exploding Fist , The Flesh is Weak usually = dead.
I really wanna complete my Akkhan set for all my Crusaders to do the shotgun build + zDPS monk. I'll be facerolling T6 np. Not as easy as with WDs (almost done full Jade sets for my whole party and will be even more OP), but something different to do when I'm bored of WDs. Just need a couple pieces here and there and I'll be good to go. That or get Darklights and continue with Fissures, sadly, I haven't found a single one, yet I had no problem to get 3 Fate of the Fell.
I've got 3 Darklights and... I'm just not a fan of that build at all for some reason. It feels very clunky.
A super quick video of monk + 3 crusaders. Thanks for the advice, still messing around with specs on the monk.
http://youtu.be/sR7MBspIVzs
Just swapped in a monk main, not sure if I'm sold on it though. You lose the ability to range monsters. Will continue to test.
I seriously can't believe how crazy easy t6 is now, it's mindless - no crazy techniques or kiting or anything. Just tank and spank 90% of the time, which I love.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ellay
I'm going to be streaming for a while, so if you are in the channel let me know and I can show you. http://www.twitch.tv/kicksomeone
Thanks for everyone's advice, I would have NEVER thought to put a Monk in there. I remember Ellay was saying that back in D3 Vanilla, I tried it but like my WD's more.
Also thanks everyone for the tip on Exploding Palm - I can't believe I overlooked this, this is without question the key.
I found a few upgrades on the monk also. I also found a unity on my last crusader thank god.
Here's the monk's latest gear: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/K.../hero/30050343
I went for all Freeze, Stun, Crowd Control. Although it just worked out that way because of the stuff I had in the bank, and the few monk drops I've got so far. (blind helm 40%, Sledge Fist 40% stun chance, frostburn, Azurewrath...) And 51% CDR so far.
I did some further monk testing last night and was able to do T6 with 1 monk / 3 crusaders. My gear is still lacking but it was doable. T5 is very smooth. I'd say this is probably the strongest combo for multiboxing with Crusaders involved.
I'm slumming on t3 but my gear isn't great. 450k dps and 10m toughness or so on the crusaders. Generally only die when I get scattered and am dealing with nasty affix combos.
It doesn't take too much to bump it up. I was riding T3/T4 for the longest time then decided to ramp it up and was surprised it was basically the same thing with higher hp pools.