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Originally Posted by MiRai
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Originally Posted by MiRai
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They are 1920 X 1200, which I bring down to 1920 X 1080. At 15fps each 9 minutes would be over 3.2G (and a 30fps file would be over 6G!), given that the file is 1.08G (after compression) now. Is it reasonable to expect people to download a 3G video for wow? Dosnt bother me to record at higher fps; I am thinking about the watcher.
does youtube not lower it for phones or am i being silly now....Quote:
Originally Posted by Sam DeathWalker
Youtube videos are all the same size regardless of how you encode them on your computer. You could record 4k 32 bit RED EPIC RAW footage and record 1TB for every minute of footage, fortunately, YouTube still converts that to their resolutions, and compresses them highly to fit into their bandwidth requirements.
YouTube is fixing your video for you, so you don't have to record at 1986 frame rates, Sam. Go ahead, record at 30 FPS, or go all Hobbit at 48 FPS if it suits you. YouTube and Vimeo will still fix it for you and play at 30 FPS on their player for you.
Compression is not magic. I use HandBreak with H.264 and an mp4 container. If, after you compress, you wish to reduce the file size you have to reduce resolution, which I don't wish to do, or framerate which seems to me to lose very little. If youtube recompresses an already compressed H.264 file then its not going to look so hots. Still it matters not to me, if you want to take 3X the time and disk space to load the video so you can watch at 15fps instead of 5fps that's fine, Ill upload at 15fps from now on.
No, I think you missed my point. What goes to YouTube from your computer doesnt matter. They have limits on how large and how long in time your movie can be, but you can upload the same video with H264 and one uncompressed, which would result in vastly different filesizes, but as long as the files are within the size requirements YouTube allows you to upload (you cant hit these with a 10 minute video without really trying) it will compress the video for you again, and it wont matter to the end user. The quality might change slightly because of recompression, but the point is, what you record at is not a problem. Record lossless if you like at 30 FPS and it will take YOU a lot longer to upload, but wont affect our download or viewing speeds.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sam DeathWalker
Some players will simply add captions afterwards, explaining what is going on. Might be faster and more convenient than a voice-over.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sam DeathWalker
This is correct, YouTube handles the video, and regardless of the framerate, container settings etc of the uploaded video, to the viewer the result will be the same: it's now a YouTube video.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mokoi
Generally speaking, always upload the best possible quality that you want to bother with as an uploader, as the better the source material, the more options your viewer will have when playing the YouTube video. That's why some videos won't allow you to select HD resolutions, if they were originally uploaded in a lower resolution.
Somehow the youtube logic from above reminded me of this chat log:
docsigma2000: jesus christ man
docsigma2000: my son is sooooooo dead
c8info: Why?
docsigma2000: hes been looking at internet web sites in fucking EUROPE
docsigma2000: HE IS SURFING LONG DISTANCE
docsigma2000: our fucking phone bill is gonna be nuts
c8info: Ooh, this is bad. Surfing long distance adds an extra $69.99 to your bill per hour.
docsigma2000: ...!!!!!! FUCK FUCK FUCK
docsigma2000: is there some plan we can sign up for???
docsigma2000: cuz theres some cool stuff in europe, but i dun wanna pauy that much
c8info: Sorry, no. There is no plan. you'll have to live with it.
docsigma2000: o well, i ccan live without europe intenet sites.
docsigma2000: but till i figure out how to block it hes sooooo dead
c8info: By the way, I'm from Europe, your chatting long distance.
** docsigma2000 has quit (Connection reset by peer)
from the famous bash.org website
*lol*
excellent.
at least replying to your posting is only a european-connection therefore it is cheaper
than creating a new thread in this forum or replying to Sams initial posting :D :D
You mean Sam is from the US? Damn, and I almost clicked his video! Long-distance YouTube is sooo expensive! *facedesk* :D
glad you haven't clicked it :D
try to connect a smaller monitor to your pc therefore the video won't be so big
or try to download it instead of streaming because download traffic is cheaper
than streaming traffic. e-mail traffic would be way cheaper but I think it is
too large to get it mailed
*lol*
:D
Back in the early days of the internet we would publish out videos with post pigeons. But my neighbours weren't too happy with it when I would watch porn, cause they had to clean their car when I was done. Not because of me but cause of all the pigeons flying over.
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Originally Posted by zenga
this is win!!!!!
NALAK DOWN!
5 min 37 sec
No Deaths
Ill post the video later tonight after I do the voice over. All I can do is 10fps cause I don’t have enough ram to go past 10G (I have the wow folder in Ram also).
http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/8k2vpedihw07kbpu/
I hate to say it Sam, but for the sake of argument against your self-proclaimed "most powerful" title, that's slower than the 5 Warlocks. From pull (~00:23) to death (~10:17) Xeneres took down Nalak in about 10 minutes... and there were only five of them. I don't believe the video was sped up at any point, but someone else can correct me on that because I'm not going to watch it all the way through again.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sam DeathWalker
So, about 1/6th of the team size (5 VS 28) at about twice the amount of time. I'll leave any other math up to other people, but I think you need to work on that 80+ step DPS rotation.
Sam, your knowledge of recording video is mind boggling. At 10FPS you could probably record to an old 5400 RPM drive which contained both your OS and WoW folder and still be okay.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sam DeathWalker
no no no, Mirai, he is STILL most powerful by his own definition. Jim Jong Il is the most powerful in all the world! (as long as he gets to define power, and then rig it to his benefit) (( even in Death )) ((( WAIT! DEATH WALKER! IT IS KIM JONG IL! )))
Sam, PLEASE don't do a voiceover. Nobody needs be subjected to your unadulterated thoughts, I'm just excited to see the arcane explosions I know are coming! I will eat a puppy if there's no arcane explosions in this fight haha.
Agreed. If there are no Arcane Explosions then I will be incredibly disappointed. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Mokoi
His ilevel is 540ish mine is 510ish. Obviously if you have fewer toons you are able to spend more time on each and have a higher ilevel.
I killed the mob in about 1/2 the time. You can see all the spells used from the world of logs information. Mostly pyroblast (45%) as there are not multiple mobs in this fight. I could go to a hard drive but it’s more efficient to go to ram.
Some request voice over and some don't want it, it’s less work for me to not include it. 10fps is more than enough, its twice what the other one was at, if there is some information that you are missing because of the 10fps just ask.
Here is the link to the damage:
http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/8...bpu/details/1/
- Oondasta was 25 boxed 3 weeks agoQuote:
Originally Posted by Sam DeathWalker
- Nalak was 25 boxed 3 weeks ago
- Nalak was 5 boxed all DPS, no healers, this week.
- Immerseus was 15+10 boxed a month ago with virtually no strategy.
- An 80 man Chi-Ji raid was wiped by a 15 boxer yesterday. Inside the court.
... can you ever just post something without first stating, before you have any idea of what others are doing or have done, that you are the most powerful, best, most amazing, whatever?
This fight is straight forward as long as you can stay at 40 yards out of arc nova range. I was able to position the mob about 40 yards from my dps and healing for the whole fight (I think I got hit by arc nova once).
I put my 2nd tank (DK) on the far side so that if the main tank (Pal) lost agro the mob would move away from the dps/healers. And I redid my 90 step macro to be most all 40 yard spells (pyroblast, mage bomb and smite /with glyph/) so the dps/healers could stay out of arc nova.
The rest was about positioning.
This fight in many ways is easier then Galleon, as long as it can be done at range; as there are no adds and this mobs melee is less
Enjoy: http://youtu.be/LgdqWHXU40k
Anything prior to 5.4 means nothing.Quote:
Originally Posted by heyaz
If Nalak was not done faster then 5m37s then I am still better.
Provide link to the Oondasta please, that’s sounds like something.
Wiping people while they are engaging a mob is kinda hard to duplicate, the only one that might beat me is the Oondasta if its 5.4.
All of this was post 5.4. It came out what, 5-6 weeks ago?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sam DeathWalker
Nalak was killed in 9 minutes by 5.
Agree, but the accomplishment is if you actually reset the boss kill. You could run into Oondasta, Nalak, anything and kill a lot of people then die and the fight would keep going. It was almost never possible on Nalak, but on Oondasta you could reset the fight. First celestials reset (at about 10%) I saw yesterday.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sam DeathWalker
Provide links and Ill watch them, I can't find the Oon with a google search. Yes we know Nalak was killed in 9 minutes by 5, and I killed him in 5 minutes. So far I am the fastest Nalak kill by one person ever. Just provide links where there is one person killing the mob, others don't count. Rewatching the video I hammered Nalak there was nothing close about that fight, he could have had 10X the HP and still lost. If someone else has done something of note I will try and do it also, from the Nalak video I have lots of spare power.
Agreed. This is getting really annoying. In order to be the bestest most amazingest you really have to do something which other players of the game find impressive or at least interesting. Zerging world bosses that have been out for six months just isn't it. Even if you do it twice as fast as a person with 1/6th your number of toons.Quote:
Originally Posted by heyaz
I am up for the next challenge what do you suggest? Seems that the bar just gets higher and higher with no end in sight. To be the "best" the question is not "what is impressive" its "who has actually done the most". Clearly no one has done both Nalak and Galleon, and we have no link to this Oondasta kill by anyone, and its 7 hours later already. The last two in his list don't count and we know of the 3rd in his list. The first two we have no links. 25 box? By who? There is prepared, me, and there is a 25 boxer but last I looked his ilevels were not high enough, but I could be wrong. But there are not a lot of 25 boxers around. Zerging (how someone who can control two tanks, 6 healers /two classes/ and 20 dps /two classes/ is a no skill zerger now is beyond me) a world boss by one person is very very difficult judging by the number of people who have actually done it with a video in 5.4 (so far me and a warlock 5 boxer). Ill look up the 25 boxer and see if its him Hayaz is posting about. Here is the 25 boxer: http://sig.lanjelin.com/user/themipband two of his guys are 470 ilevel and I assume the rest are also, he is not taking down Oon with that crew. He does have an interesting mix of classes (dk, shaman, druid) which seem to have a TON of possible healing lol it will be good to see how it plays out when he gets higher ilevel.
Is this just about you wanting us to congratulate you on killing something in an unimpressive and boring fashion? Do you really consider your requirements for "worlds most powerful wow player" valid and interesting? I find it self-serving and disrespectful to those in our community who have and are accomplishing worthy goals which have taken skill and ingenuity, instead of throwing money at the game until you have the most characters under your control so you can power your way through content the rest of the community and normal wow players have been killing for months with far less "power" than you potentially wield.
Sam, the reason nobody is climbing the walls to beat "your" record is that nobody considers it worthy of a record in the first place. I consider what the 5 boxing warlock did with Nalak far more impressive, powerful and worthy of praise. Don't you feel a bit ashamed that he did it with 1/6 the toons as you, and managed to do 2-4x the DPS of your best toons? Would you bow down to a 100 boxing player who completes the same thing you did in a slightly shorter time? Even if that player had terrible macros, mechanics and just threw money at the game until he beat it? Would you consider that an accomplishment of any caliber?
We have already told you what WE wont consider impressive and worthy of a title. Complete current raid content in a similar or faster time than an average PuG in LFR. When we did this, your response was "Oh, I don't need to do that, nobody else here is"
Correct, THATS what makes it impressive.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion, and if you feel that it’s better to have fewer stronger characters (the warlocks are higher ilevel) rather than more but weaker characters that's great. If I put the time into 5 that I did into 28 my 5 would be higher ilevel then his 5.
At some point Nalak will be down to a single very high ilevel character, but not in 5.4, what will your argument be at that point?
I would give the title of most powerful to anyone who does it faster than I did with any number of characters under their control at the same time.Quote:
Would you bow down to a 100 boxing player who completes the same thing you did in a slightly shorter time?
You can name some impossible task that no one can do and set that as the standard if you wish, and that would be impressive to be sure yet because no one else has done it who can claim they are the best. If I am not the best then who is? If it’s so easy then do what I did. This argument that I am throwing money at the game might be valid if you get a free level 90 with 520 ilevel when you pay for an account but that’s not the case. I leveled up and geared up my guys within the rules and that is no small feat.Quote:
Complete current raid content in a similar or faster time than an average PuG in LFR
There are two types of skill, one skill is what you do when you face the mob and the other is what you did before you faced the mob. The guy with more characters did more work and showed more skill prior to the engagement, the guy with the fewer characters (assuming same ilevel) shows more skill during the engagement.
My skill is in leveling up 28 characters to 510ish ilevel. Thus I need less skill during the encounter, even though I have the most complex macros of anyone, and am able to change them from an aoe encounter (Galleon) to a single target encounter (Nalak) within a day or two. You can claim that my macros are not the best but I show my logs, and no one else does. If you think a 3 step macro is superior to a 90 step macro then keep on believing that. And let’s not forget it’s 6 times harder to write macros for six classes then it is for one class. Also if your macros are small because you are writing fall through castsequence macros to get around something that was taken out of the game that’s kind of questionable, I am sure some would argue.
Of course my defeat of Nalak looks like it took no skill during the encounter due to the fact it didn’t, because of my extremely high skill preparation prior to the encounter. Choosing only 40 yard spells to keep me out of arc nova range, choosing the right classes years ago instead of going with the “shaman are best for boxers”, and leveling up all my guys to level 28 and 510 ilevel, gearing and gemming and chanting them all and making the gold ligit to do it with.
Does it take more skill to level up 5 characters to ilevel 540 or 28 characters to ilevel 510?
I started wow in 2008 and it was not until 5.4 did I claim to be the best, that’s a very long time.
You do realize that every time you press a single key that sends a command to two accounts at the same time from that single key press, in an mmo, you are relying upon MY ingenuity given that I am the person who invented the concept in the first place ……Quote:
“skill and ingenuity”.
Due to the fact it’s been a long time now with no links I can only assume that the first two of Hayaz list do not actually exist. Thus we are down to me and the 5X warlock. If you think that a guy who does something in 9 minutes is more powerful than someone who does that same in 5.6 minutes then that is your opinion and you are entitled to it. Also he has not done galleon.
I don't get all this hate. For some of us managing something we couldn't do before is an accomplishment to ourselves. I thought we were all here because we had something in common? I managed to solo yogg Saron alone in the darkness on my frost dk in Blood presence, but to you that's prob crap because it's already been done.. but to me it was huge.
I think Sam is very theatrical - it's a little bit of an act.. I think he's quite entertaining and he means no harm at the end of it.
I only use Keyclone, and I do think that some of the software goes way too far.. being able to program multiple macros from within the program that press 5 buttons at once, aoe in 1 click for all windows, a workaround within the program to use mounts in battlegrounds where Blizz have clearly said they don't want follow enabled? I'd like to see some of the top pvpers who claim they multibox do it without a complex program.. oh and without a pocket healer of course!
Who are you to say that he isn't very impressive? I was happy that I managed to multibox heroics in crap gear using only Keyclone.. but now people are probably put off from posting (especially newcomers) because of the amount of epeen flying around here.
My point is though that each to their own.. Sam is clearly winding you up with a bit of banter and you bite like a good-un!
But that is how it always is with persistent-world games. More challenges are added, more power is given to characters, and the bar keeps being raised. It's the same for raid guilds who compete for world firsts.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sam DeathWalker
I think what is missing is a place where people can agree on what makes a person "most powerful" and keep track of people who try to meet that standard. That is dependent on interest, of course, but it could also be good publicity for multiboxing in general. Having one person define "most powerful" and post his accomplishments should really only be the first step.
As for doing "the impossible" do not underestimate what you can accomplish as a multiboxer. Didn't Vyndree and her boyfriend finish Karazhan at level 70 by each boxing half the raid? And I recall that there was a multiboxer who did at least a few of the Ice Crown Citadel bosses by ten-boxing his own group, when WotLK was the current expansion. Lots of things seem impossible until someone does them. Heck, isn't this topic showing that a boss that seemed impossible at one point (especially on a PVP server) can be defeated? Getting to the title of "most powerful" should be less fun than trying to keep it, I would think.
At first, I had a different reply, but then I thought this would be more fun.
You're backing yourself into a corner with your own arrogance, a disrespect for the common multiboxer, and a delusional mindset that you're the best there ever was. You disregard any attempt to reason with you, so you leave me no choice...
Sam Deathwalker of The Deathwalker Imperium, formerly of The Deathwalker Empire, I, MiRai, of Multiboxology, as a moderator of the dual-boxing forum, and as a fellow multiboxer, publicly denounce you and challenge your self-proclaimed title of "most powerful multiboxer."
My proposal is as follows:
You must successfully progress through instanced raid content with a team comprised entirely of characters controlled by you -- This includes, but is not limited to, 25-man LFR or any number of your choosing in Flex-Raid.
Any combination of the following raid instances will be accepted:
Mogu'shan Vaults (hereafter referred to as MSV)
Terrace of Endless Spring (hereafter referred to as ToES)
Heart of Fear (hereafter referred to as HoF)
Throne of Thunder (hereafter referred to as ToT)
Siege of Orgrimmar (hereafter referred to as SoO)
The amount of progression will be left up to you, but in the end, you will be judged by your fellow peers -- The members of this forum. I am leaving the amount of progression up to you because I think it would be unreasonable to believe any multboxer would be able to fully clear any tier of raid content at this stage in the game.
If you accept and succeed, then you will be given the forum title of Most Powerful Multiboxer which you will wear below your name at all times. This title shall stand until one, or more, of the following occur:
A) You are dethroned by another multiboxer who will have been judged by the same members of this forum and will have been found to have achieved an accomplishment of higher caliber.
B) The next expansion is released which would then deem your accomplishments "old news."
C) You are banned and removed from this forum.
If you accept and fail, then you will receive the following for the remainder of the Mists of Pandaria expansion:
You have until 9AM EDT on October 25th, 2013 (seven (7) days from now) to decide. If you choose to accept within these seven (7) days, you will be given thirty (30) more days, in addition to the remaining days, to present your instanced raid progression to the members of this forum. During those thirty (30) days you are allowed to continue forward with your normal unrestricted gameplay and any upgrades you receive in that time period can be equipped and used during any raid progression if you so desire.
A) Your forum title will be changed to Terrible Multiboxer which you will bear until you can redeem yourself with a worthy accomplishment.
B) Your signature on this forum that appears below each of your posts will tell the story of a man who believed he had achieved greatness, but was then stripped of it all when his arrogance and conceit got the best of him.
C) Threads or posts that you create which are filled with an exuberant amount of ridiculous claims will immediately be locked or deleted without question.
If you choose not to accept my proposal, then you will continue to be ridiculed on this forum in one way or another, multiboxers of the free world will continue to find it difficult to take you seriously, and your self-proclaimed achievements will fade away as if they had never happened.
Do you think you have what it takes? This forum awaits your decision, Deathwalker.
awesome.
What an interesting challenge! This is a great idea to get everyone trying to out do each other to really try and push the limits of multiboxing in raids! To be honest, these forums have been lacking that lately. We might need MiRai or someone to do a video on how to record one's multiboxing efforts just in case there are people who have no idea on how to create videos. (Pointing at himself)Quote:
Originally Posted by MiRai
I am up for any fair challenge but I don’t really see how you are able to compare a 5 boxer to a 25 boxer or even a 25 boxer to a 40 boxer. How do you compare a 5 boxer to a 10 boxer?
I’m like in the heavyweight boxing division and I claim I can beat anyone in any division, thus I am the most powerful, you are claiming to be like ‘pound for pound” the best due to superior skill at a lighter weight. Both claims can be true. Character for Character the Warlock did better than I did, yet there is no question I am more powerful overall.
For someone who boxes fewer than 25 in a 25 man raid the raid itself changes, I get no credit for the substantial skill I put in before the battle.
Just as a 5 boxer who is forced to do 1 man content will be beat by a 1 boxer because the 1 boxer didn’t have to level up 5 characters.
No reasonable person will say that the 5 boxer warlock team is more powerful than my 28 man team, if we were to meet in pvp I would slaughter him. Just like no reasonable person would say that a single character with higher ilevel then the warlocks is more powerful or better than the 5 warlocks because the one character was able to do something the 5 were not.
Wasn’t there some kind of guild vs. guild pvp? Did that get implemented? What is that training thing about is that viable?
If the 5 boxer or 10 boxer or 15 boxer has to enter a 25 man raid, with 25 then drop all the characters that he does not control so that the raid is the same I have to face then sure, I will compare against anyone that has to go against the exact same opponent or conditions that I have to.
Basically you want me to throw out 23 of my guys and run 5 of my weaker against your 5 stronger, or course you will win, just as if you have to go up against swifty one v one you will lose.
You don’t require someone like the warlocks to take off his ilevel 540 gear to compare with others in 490 ilevel gear to make it “fair”. And you don’t’ require a level 90 to delevel to level 85 before he can claim to be more powerful than the level 85.
When I was being camped by a 5 boxer 5 or so levels higher than me and he wiped me out I didn’t see anyone complain that it wasn’t “fair”, and I didn’t claim it was unfair either (it’s a pvp server) knowing that someday the tables would turn. Now that I destroy a 5 boxer suddenly I am “unreasonable” and “unfair”.
I would think the next target is Oon or the celestials, but if you can come up with something else that is fair I am up for it.
We picked a mob that all can attack (I picked Galleon but you guys came up with Nalak) and I say ok throw whatever you have against it and kill it, and of those who were able to do it the one who did it the fastest is the best, and somehow you say I am unreasonable?
Also Mirai you might want to look up some of the old posts in this forum and review the very first few posts by Lax. There were many who objected to Lax posting on this forum, yet one voice spoke up in his defense when others would not, and that one lone voice was me.
Also my support for IsBoxer is unwavering, I doubt I would be able to do what I do without Isboxer, and much credit for my great accomplishments should go to Lax and IsBoxer.
Anyway think about how to compare a 5 boxer to a 10 boxer and be fair to both, recognizing the 5 boxer will have higher ilevels but the 10 boxer has twice as many accounts. And you can’t force the 10 boxer to fight 5 man content, just like you can’t force the 5 boxer to fight 1 man content.
I am sure we all agree that some kind of ladder or competition to compare all would be fun and enjoyable.
Basically I am accepting your challenge but with the condition that I compare against others, not some unknown yardstick and they must be in a 25 man normal raid, as I will be in.
After playing and/or watching someone like Kruschpakx, Kenchen, Shodokan or anyone who had a gladiator title via multiboxing or close to it... They are better than 99% of the Arena players out there on one player with no addons or on 4 with advanced software - IMHO. It's nuts how good these guys are, even on 1 guy. i.e. They are already great arena players.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andreauk
And one reason I am not afraid of the 40 boxer is that if he ever does get his gear ligit (assuming that he win traded to get it now) is that he doesn't use IsBoxer and I do. There is little doubt in my mind that Lax's software will give me a tremendous edge over him so much so that I don't need more accounts to beat him. And I have better classes.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_pMW5obBcjL...horse_shit.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by Sam DeathWalker
And the worst. Your logs are absolutely horrible, in every possible aspect. You do damage that players did in cataclysm. It doesn't matter at all if you play 1,5 or 300 times the same class, your keybind gets auto broadcasted and you auto spam abilities. If you have the hardware and infrastructure, then if 2 toons can do 100 dps, then adding 8 more with the same gear will do 100 dps as well, and not 30 dps.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sam DeathWalker
So because you show logs and no one else bothers to do so, you automatically assume that your macro's are the best?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sam DeathWalker
DPS specs have a priority order for optimal performance, developed and tested by the smartest fucks in WoW. Claiming other wise is like saying the moon doesn't exist.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sam DeathWalker
It's not harder, it just takes more time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sam DeathWalker
you might have put effort into it, but I wouldn't quantify that as skill, since the result is plain horrible (i.e. dps performance)Quote:
Originally Posted by Sam DeathWalker
that's an absolutely ridiculous statement. there are plenty of classes/specs who can perform on par if not better with your magesQuote:
Originally Posted by Sam DeathWalker
time devoted does not equal skill in my book, to get 540 ilvl you have to do harder content than you have to do for ilvl 510Quote:
Originally Posted by Sam DeathWalker
So you invented multiboxing? -_-Quote:
Originally Posted by Sam DeathWalker
So because people haven't recorded anything or recorded logs, you just assume they are talking out of their asses? Well not everyone feels the need to get confirmation from the community and need to see proof to be credible.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sam DeathWalker
I consider myself to be a reasonable person. Yet I'm not too sure about that. Five warlocks played by a skilled player have the tools to obliterate any group that is stacked. Definitely when it's you, who to my humble opinion does not have a clue (and that's based on all your - again to my humble opinion - absolutely ridiculous claims and statements).Quote:
Originally Posted by Sam DeathWalker
I think that the first and foremost reason why Mirai made that sarcastic challenge, was to make you shut up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sam DeathWalker