ah... but will there be targetting capability.. and can you run it in windowed mode?
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ah... but will there be targetting capability.. and can you run it in windowed mode?
In regards to a few things:
I'm positive that WAR will have a customizable UI. Even DAoC had that, even though it wasn't quite as simple to setup as WoW is.
And as far as nerfs, Ugh I don't want to hear it... I played a scout from day 1. I went from one-shotting anybody to having a chance to impale myself (slightly exaggerated, but still...)
Now if anybody knows of a way for me to sneak into the beta...
Try doing a preorder of the CE if it's not too late, suposedly you'll get three beta entry codes out of that. If I only get one preorder of the CE I'll be using my three
WAR's got LUA going on, targetting yes, everything you need for multiboxing, but I don't know about windowed action. Hopefully though..
Or working with ATIs 3D acceleration with multiple monitors properly so I can dual monitor dualbox at full framerate. Something happened that made WoW a choppy (not performance-wise) experience when using two monitors
If someone is in the EU beta english server, I suggest /chan join multiboxing if on destruction side, /chan join multiboxing2 on order side. Respect the NDA and lets keep all the stuff in there until the NDA is torn up later this year. Need some people to theorycraft and try things with.
I've got a Pre order, and I wish you luck to get one ;) so we could start together , Hope to come into Closed to get expierence because I don't know which class especially which side to chose.
Warriorpriest/Witchhunter (this is one I first hated)
Engineer? Or these Emo darkelves I mean these with this Armor that's going into the the Face like it's going to be devoured by evil power or something, that looks cool, and they are healers ,too. Disciple of Khaine (?).
And the more I read about it (and watch...watched all Podcasts about 100 times) the more I wanna test things. I could Imagine to only Dualbox it and Quit WoW for it, because it's boring me for some reason.
Hope the Crafting system is gonna be cool ;) I'm more addicted to it, then WoW for 4 Years or so.
ARGH , CAN'T WAIT FOR IT ...
btw, got no Beta keys, only one for the open beta , and starting before other people start.
That pre-order thing is sweet. I'm not going to break any NDA so here's what I've got from official material and wrote a while back:
Ranged classes will be The Thing, doesn't look like there are any AEs or things that require mouse-targetting (various videos), even engineer grenades (gamespot videos), you just point, assist and click and the multiboxed folks all throw their grenades, so that's sweet. Squig Hunter and Engineer have a five feet minimum range, whereas the casters do not. They might be a tiny bit more squishy though
As for chosing your career; (cut and paste this for people who cant decide elsewhere)
Once you enter beta or retail with a mind full of indecisions, get a regular six sided die:
-
A) Faction
1,2,3 - Destruction
4,5,6 - Order
-
B) Race
1,2 - Dwarf/Greenskin
3,4 - Empire/Chaos
5,6 - High Elf/Dark Elf
-
C) Career
1 - Career 1
2 - Career 2
3 - Career 3
4 - Career 4
5,6 - Roll again
Haha, that's a nice Idea, but then I get something I'm not really addicted to .. that's going to be really annoying ;) I prefer a healer(because I love healing, and the style of healing in this game sounds to me most interesting. Like the shaman, if he casts nukes his healing spells get stronger), so I only had to choose the Race which healer I'm going to play , guess I roll only once to get the race ;) But this Idea sounds really cool, That's so easy, I would have never figured it out for myself.
*cry* I wanna play it ...
I am soo boxing Zealots for this reason alone :PQuote:
Originally Posted by 'Shaitan256',index.php?page=Thread&postID=68548#po st68548
http://www.warhammeronline.com/engli...ers/Zealot.php <3
So theres someone that could tell me if theres a class that can dot and cast spells? I'm really looking for a class similar to a Warlock
I think that's like most casters including healers. Try the videos on Curse, they're from really old versions of the game shown at meetings but still give a good idea of how the action worksQuote:
Originally Posted by 'Neverheal',index.php?page=Thread&postID=72473#pos t72473
thanks, but what is the website?
[quote='Neverheal',index.php?page=Thread&postID=724 73#post72473]So theres someone that could tell me if theres a class that can dot and cast spells? I'm really looking for a class similar to a Warlock[/quote]
well the zealot is probably the closest. Even though there isn't really any life leeching you have the ability to heal and cast "Harbringers" that weaken your opponent and "Marks" that strengthen you or your allies.
While primarily s buff/debuff class with some focus on healing/doting, there are some very nice AoE DOT/healing spells that should allow you to be amazingly powerful with boxed multiple times
[url='http://warhammerinfo.com/c-zealot.shtml']Some Info[/url]
EDIT: although careful.. there are rumours of this being a semi healbot class, but read up on them a bit and you may be pleasantly surprised that they are capable of healboting, but much much more :P
Zealot masteries:
Path of Alchemy
The Path of Alchemy is the Zealot's primary healing mastery. A specialist in Alchemy will become a mighty healer, capable of mending the most grievous wounds and ensuring that Tzeentch's armies live to see their enemies fall before them. While a player who selects this mastery may not necessarily gain the most powerful offensive capabilities, they will have absolutely no problems finding allies to protect them and do their bidding.
Path of Ritual
The Path of Rituals is focused on warping the entire balance of power across a battlefield, skewing the fight to bring about the inevitable triumph of Tzeentch's followers. They are just as proficient at enhancing their allies as they are at stunting their enemies - and, in fact, can do both at the same time.
Path of Witchcraft
The Path of Witchcraft is for a Zealot who chooses to make himself into a talon of Tzeentch, reaching out to slaughter his enemies through magical attacks. These manifest themselves as deadly portents of chaos. Flocks of shrieking ravens may fall upon a Zealot’s foe to consume their flesh, or strange demonic manifestations may appear out of thin air to lash at his foes.
Don't go assuming that these dots will stack though. In DAOC a lot of stuff did not stack, thats why you saw the boxers playing pure casters mostly.
hmm you may have a point there :S To be fair I was looking at all the AoE stuff more and figured as it's all damage or healing it would stack :) but the harbringers/marks thing may be a problem :SQuote:
Originally Posted by 'Morganti',index.php?page=Thread&postID=73566#post 73566
I was in the closed beta of Warhammer, i want to tell you that it is nothing like wow. I had pre-ordered my copies ready to quit wow and play. I played the beta and I am not impressed. Can't really go into details, but I cancelled my order and now I am multiboxing.
If anyone with WAR beta access doesn't want it anymore, feel free to PM me the details which I need to play :p
Ha...ha...yes....only kidding....(no seriously).
Hmmm my brother is in the beta and says it's a combination of WoW and DAoC, more towards DAoC and a little of WoW thrown in. I just signed up and well, we'll see if I get a chance to play it[crossing my fingers but I doubt it]. My brother said he signed up for the news letter a year ago and was surpirised to see a invite into close beta. It seems he's already hooked on it and maybe I can convience him to dual box too, hehe. I'm wondering if Fileplanet members will get a shot at the open beta. It got me into AoC but I really didn't like it that much. Yeap I miss not being followed around by my healer. What can I say once you dual box, you never want to live without it lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by 'Saphfyer',index.php?page=Thread&postID=81059#post 81059
All you lucky beta tester please report on it if you can, otherwise I won't ask if it's against ToS for beta. I'll be waiting to read up more on it and hopefully it's really easy to dual box in it. I know Mythic took a nuetral stance on dual boxing in DAoC, trying to be fair to the rest, but not dumb enough to ban it, as it gave them more money. Peace out to all my fellow dual boxers. :thumbsup:
Hehe, I wanna log onto my brothers account so bad just to play it. He won't let me, that bastard......He's too scared that Mythic will find out so I can only watch him play and got a little bit of playing time, like 5 minutes.Quote:
Originally Posted by 'Lokked',index.php?page=Thread&postID=84957#post84 957
If i post about Warhammer windowed capabilities, maximiser compatibility,multiple instances capabilities on one pc, command /follow etc availabilty. Is a NDA break? or not.
Because i ve three Beta test account and i got good and bad news.
I'm going to make a guess that posting about things like multiboxing viability is not against the NDA, as the NDA is meant to protect storyline/lore and gameplay criteria is prohibited, but talking about whether or not /follow is in game (as this has already been discussed), or if you can run multiple instances or if Software keystrokes are passed to inactive windows is ok.
I believe talking about ingame macros, targetting commands, etc would be against the NDA as well.
ok !! then moderate if NDA break.
Then yesterday i tried 3 Beta test account on one machine with keyclone.
Good news : - I can launch 3 windowed instances in same time (surely more) while daoc only 2
- I have a Old GT 6600 and a 2800 XP AMD (dont laugh) and 3 instances run (1 or 2 fps) BUT dont crash and dont lost connection with server while daoc lost connection if there is a little too loong lag.(with 2 sessions).
- I have only One folder for 3 sessions then it could be better with 3 folder or more.
- keyclone maximiser works fine!!
Very bad news:
- War doesnt receive keystroke on non active window ..... ;( (with keyclone)
- /face /stick dont work or not implemented yet
- /follow seems to work because i ve no error but doesnt work yesterday (maybe desactivated?) and if i remember well there was implented when i played at the beginning of the year.
I can post screenshot but that is NDA break because we see the game.
feel free to post some questions.
and sorry for my english
If WAR does not receive Keystrokes while in the background, I can write you an open script using HotkeyNet that you could try.
Although if you only get 1-2 FPS you probably won't be able to play anyways.
I guess I could still provide the script, via copy/paste, and you could try it out with 2 instances, if your computer can handle that.
As I said above, the script will be copied into this thread, and can be scrutinized by the community. No harm.
If there is no /follow, however, I don't see the point :p Might just be temporarily broken.
no problem i can test it.
I will receive my Q9450 cpu with 4go ram and HD4850 ,so i will test in good condition, but for the moment even at 1 fps i can test ^^ because the game is very stable (with lost connection) and i m very surprised.
send me the stuff on my email ^^ or here.
i really hope that /follow will repop because MB seems not to be welcome on WAR.
imo there isn't as much point to MBing in WAR as other games. Its a PVP (RVR) game, and most of the RvR fights are heavy zerg fests with 3, 6, 20, 45, etc vs similar numbers. You will have a very hard time keeping everyone together. Theres a lot of outdoor PVP (kinda like AoC sieging - keeps, siege weapons, NPC defenders, NPC attackers, etc) and then a lot of instanced PVP (kind of like WoW battlegrounds with flags, capture points, goals, NPC bosses, etc).
ok but , I'm annoyed because mythic has never ruled on teamwizzy (and other )(To my knowledge) unlike blizzard.
OT, but Mythic banned Team Wizzy. He was able to get the ban lifted once he Emailed them pictures of his setup (1 box, keyboard, mouse, LCD per client) to show them he was controlling each character individually, and not using any sort of automation or even software/hardware help to achieve his playstyle.
Anyways, I'll have that script posted in the next couple of days. I'm actually fairly certain that mythic will not prohibit Multiboxing, as they allowed it in DAoC. I doubt they will launch the game without /follow as well. /follow is the only thing necessary to box in PvE. PvP also requires some sort of targetting and assist system, so we shall see about that.
Keeping everyone together sounds easier then in WoW, as there doesn't appear to be an AoE Chaotic CC (IE. Fear).
As long as /follow isn't as bugged as in AoC, I'm sure the game will be fine. The fact that it does not accept keystrokes on Inactive windows is a minor inconvenience.
Team wizzy uses a KVW broadcast even if he doesnt want to say it.
but i hope you are right!
in daoc /face and /assist take time and i m afraid without pbaoe MB in war is not intersting if macro assist and follow are too long .
we will see it!
!!! i m free to test whatever u want.!!!
Or not bother playing a game that won't cater to the kind of gaming style I have now.Quote:
Originally Posted by 'empeha',index.php?page=Thread&postID=32698#post32 698
WAR would have to come up with some good content that I would be willing to stop playing WoW and "invest" my entertainment funds towards Mythic instead of Blizzard.
good news today:
/follow works fine in BG and i see /assist and /target in command list menu but doesnt work yet.
I forgot all about that script until I saw this recent post.
I've decided that its gonna be hard for me to write something without a way to test it, but here is a very rough script to send 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 and 6 from the Number Bar to 2 instances of WAR. This script is pretty disgusting, but that's all I got so far. I wish I could test it out myself before posting it, but oh well :p
You need to download AHK from here: AutoHotkey Download and install. Copy and past the script into a file called something.AHK and double click the file to start the script.
You must not have any other windows starting with the word Warhammer open for this to work.
SetTitleMatchMode, 1
WinGet, warid, List, Warhammer
~1::
KeyWait, 1, D
#IfWinActive, Warhammer
{
BlockInput, On
WinActivate, ahk_id %warid2%
ControlSend,, 1, ahk_id %warid2%
WinActivate, ahk_id %warid1%
BlockInput, Off
}
Return
~2::
KeyWait, 2, D
#IfWinActive, Warhammer
{
BlockInput, On
WinActivate, ahk_id %warid2%
ControlSend,, 2, ahk_id %warid2%
WinActivate, ahk_id %warid1%
BlockInput, Off
}
Return
~3::
KeyWait, 3, D
#IfWinActive, Warhammer
{
BlockInput, On
WinActivate, ahk_id %warid2%
ControlSend,, 3, ahk_id %warid2%
WinActivate, ahk_id %warid1%
BlockInput, Off
}
Return
~4::
KeyWait, 4, D
#IfWinActive, Warhammer
{
BlockInput, On
WinActivate, ahk_id %warid2%
ControlSend,, 4, ahk_id %warid2%
WinActivate, ahk_id %warid1%
BlockInput, Off
}
Return
~5::
KeyWait, 5, D
#IfWinActive, Warhammer
{
BlockInput, On
WinActivate, ahk_id %warid2%
ControlSend,, 5, ahk_id %warid2%
WinActivate, ahk_id %warid1%
BlockInput, Off
}
Return
~6::
KeyWait, 6, D
#IfWinActive, Warhammer
{
BlockInput, On
WinActivate, ahk_id %warid2%
ControlSend,, 6, ahk_id %warid2%
WinActivate, ahk_id %warid1%
BlockInput, Off
}
Return
[s]the name of the window is exactly:
Warhammer: Age of Reckoning, Copyright 2001-2008 Electronic Arts, Inc.
how put it in the screen , because with comma i had errors when i lauch the script.
literal commas must be escaped error line 6[/s]
error ok ^^ just type ALT GR 7 before commas
doesnt work, the script runs but no action in the window WAR.
I've editted the previous script and would also like you to try this one:
SetTitleMatchMode, 1
SendMode InputThenPlay
WinGet, warid, List, Warhammer
~1::
#IfWinActive, Warhammer
{
BlockInput, On
WinActivate, ahk_id %warid2%
Send 1
WinActivate, ahk_id %warid1%
BlockInput, Off
}
Return
~2::
#IfWinActive, Warhammer
{
BlockInput, On
WinActivate, ahk_id %warid2%
Send 2
WinActivate, ahk_id %warid1%
BlockInput, Off
}
Return
~3::
#IfWinActive, Warhammer
{
BlockInput, On
WinActivate, ahk_id %warid2%
Send 3
WinActivate, ahk_id %warid1%
BlockInput, Off
}
Return
~4::
#IfWinActive, Warhammer
{
BlockInput, On
WinActivate, ahk_id %warid2%
Send 4
WinActivate, ahk_id %warid1%
BlockInput, Off
}
Return
~5::
#IfWinActive, Warhammer
{
BlockInput, On
WinActivate, ahk_id %warid2%
Send 5
WinActivate, ahk_id %warid1%
BlockInput, Off
}
Return
~6::
#IfWinActive, Warhammer
{
BlockInput, On
WinActivate, ahk_id %warid2%
Send 6
WinActivate, ahk_id %warid1%
BlockInput, Off
}
Return
And, just in case we missed the obvious method, try this script as well, just for the 1 key:
SetTitleMatchMode, 1
SendMode InputThenPlay
WinGet, warid, List, Warhammer
~1::ControlSend,,1,ahk_id %warid2%
SetTitleMatchMode, 1
SendMode InputThenPlay
WinGet, warid, List, Warhammer: Age of Reckoning`, Copyright 2001-2008 Electronic Arts`, Inc.
~1::
#IfWinActive, Warhammer: Age of Reckoning`, Copyright 2001-2008 Electronic Arts`, Inc.
{
BlockInput, On
WinActivate, ahk_id %warid2%
Send 1
WinActivate, ahk_id %warid1%
BlockInput, Off
}
Return
~2::
#IfWinActive, Warhammer: Age of Reckoning`, Copyright 2001-2008 Electronic Arts`, Inc.
{
BlockInput, On
WinActivate, ahk_id %warid2%
Send 2
WinActivate, ahk_id %warid1%
BlockInput, Off
}
Return
~3::
#IfWinActive, Warhammer: Age of Reckoning`, Copyright 2001-2008 Electronic Arts`, Inc.
{
BlockInput, On
WinActivate, ahk_id %warid2%
Send 3
WinActivate, ahk_id %warid1%
BlockInput, Off
}
Return
~4::
#IfWinActive, Warhammer: Age of Reckoning`, Copyright 2001-2008 Electronic Arts`, Inc.
{
BlockInput, On
WinActivate, ahk_id %warid2%
Send 4
WinActivate, ahk_id %warid1%
BlockInput, Off
}
Return
~5::
#IfWinActive, Warhammer: Age of Reckoning`, Copyright 2001-2008 Electronic Arts`, Inc.
{
BlockInput, On
WinActivate, ahk_id %warid2%
Send 5
WinActivate, ahk_id %warid1%
BlockInput, Off
}
Return
~6::
#IfWinActive, Warhammer: Age of Reckoning`, Copyright 2001-2008 Electronic Arts`, Inc.
{
BlockInput, On
WinActivate, ahk_id %warid2%
Send 6
WinActivate, ahk_id %warid1%
BlockInput, Off
}
Return
with this script no action, i must use the name of the window like this? (i put the name found by keyclone to be sure)
i try this too
SetTitleMatchMode, 1
SendMode InputThenPlay
WinGet, warid, List, Warhammer: Age of Reckoning`, Copyright 2001-2008 Electronic Arts`, Inc.
~1::ControlSend,,1,ahk_id %warid2%
Return
but no results too..
please send me your msn.
I'm still at work, but i've no more time for this this weekend. Possibly on Sat I will make some more attempts. I don't use MSN nor any other instant messaging service. Next time I post, I'll just get you to try a few more things. Do try the first script exactly as I typed it. As long as the first word is Warhammer it will work without putting the rest of the title in.
If you aren't even getting a keystroke on your first Warhammer window (the one you are playing), then there is something wrong in targetting the windows. In the very least, the keystroke should go through to the active window, as denoted by the Tilde (~) in front of the hotkey. This allows that key to be passed through without altering it and without AHK influencing where it comes from (the keyboard input).
I'm trying to determine if a keypress can be sent through to a Control, which is not allowed in games like EQ2, DAoC and AoC. I suspect that it will not work in WAR.
With the second script (changing active WARs and then Sending the keystroke) I'm trying to determine if WAR will accept low level windows functions while active. It's possible WAR just doesn't accept input at all while Inactive.
I am curious how well boxing will work in WAR. With the announcment that Mythic will be partnering with Punkbuster (who I always thought where pretty shit anyway) I'm feeling a bit edgy for the software boxers. All they have to do is put keyclone, autohotkey, octopus, synergy etc on the list and thats the end of that.
I'm curious to see there stance on it though, if they do allow it I think I might invest in some machines again and pull my vetras, monitor stands and tonne of mice and ps2 cables out of the cupboard. :)
Been looking at the classes and they do seem a bit more interactive than WoW classes making them not as boxer friendly. Going to be interesting to see come open beta/release.
Is anybody set to box this from day one? With multiple CE's ordered?
-Slats
i want to, but keyclone and octopus dont work on multiple instances on 1 pc, WAR doesnt accept key in unactive windows.
Maybe AHK but doesnt work yet.
I will not rebuy PCs ..
My 4 wow's pc are too slow in war unlike wow
Tatamx, did you try my revised scripts? I ask that you copy them directly to a blank AHK file and not alter them.
I can wait until Open Beta opens, and then try it myself, I suppose as well.
yes i use them exactly like you said. without changing them and nothing.
Knock backs will ruin your day as a multiboxer in Warhammer.
I was planning to multibox. However I am now reconsidering my position on it.
Just a heads up for everyone. While there is a /follow command and /assist and /aid command (1st targets your target's hostile target, 2nd targets your target's defensive target) that's about the full range of useful macro options at this point.
There is no ability to globally accept quests, there is no /cast, /castsequence, /use, conditional button press or targeting modifiers or any of the other rich macroing tools that WoW spoiled us with. Fortunately or (un) there are also far fewer skills than in WoW so you don't need nearly as many key options.
BTW, the devs do say that the system underlaying their UI is on or better than a WoW level for flexibility, but I have yet to see any APIs to give some ideas about addons. I suspect that it may be THEORETICALLY more flexible than WoW, but I highly doubt that EAMythic will allow a lot of the really interesting mods that really expand WoW's functionality.