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whoa ... uh ... so, besides acheivements and the daily heroic (for frost emblems), there's no point in running heroics? Could you not get full T9 in less time by simply running ICC5 normal over and over?
or did they make the ICC5mans really difficult on normal mode if you're not really geared?Quote:
Originally Posted by Maxion
I think if your some what geared some of the old wrath heroics will be faster per badge than say PoS (even on normal there still is a lot of trash). 2 badges from FoS, 3 from HoR... which you could possibly do both reasonably in about 40 minutes,and faster once servers stabalize and people start getting used to the pulls. So by comparison a lot of the old wrath heroics can be done by most in under 30 minutes. If your using the random heroic then you could see 7 badges for Gundrack or CoS or Nexus... which for 30minutes of blasting is hard to beat.
A lot of the shammy teams will be farming normal PoS for the caster shield, so I guess that would be the one I would keep running on normal. Once your all T9'd out and you have what ever drop you need from the instances... yeah most people will go back to doing the random heroic and then work on other things. Farming battered hilts would be high on my list (lots-o-alts). I have to check on trash respawn times tonight, PoS seems like the obvious choice for hilt farming to me.
Random LFG gives badges per boss + 2 at the end + 13g each character.
So for every random heroic you do... you are guaranteed 5 to 7 badges. Assuming you can do 2 OG heroics per hour with "ok" gear that means you get 10-14 badges per hour. If you can do 3 per hour that is 15-21 badges per hour. If you are REALLY good... you can get 20-28 badges per hour.
Considering t9 takes 190 badges that is...
15 hours (with OK gear) - 12 per hour Average
10 hours (with medium gear) - 18 per hour average
8 hours (with t8 or better gear) - 24 per hour average
After each run you get 65 gold total not including DE + selling greys + gold from drops. So you are looking at... minimum of 300 gold per heroic.
Heroic trash resets 15 minutes after no player has been inside the instance, even after bosses are dead the trash can be endlessly reset
So it would have to be an instance where there are no "waves" for boss events.Quote:
Originally Posted by suprafro
The only nastiness I found is that you can't join as 5 shammys. It says the group is not viable for lack of tank. The workaround I did was queued with 4 shammys and 1 of my druids, then kicked the druid, and put a shaman back. He won't get the badge or gold, but you can do another random heroic, and kick a different shaman for a tank, and replace. So in order for me to farm the frost emblems on the dailies, I have to run 2 heroics.
Sweet.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zappy
I really like the new tool, especially the instant porting saves so much time.
I just wish Blizz had been a bit more generous when they did upgrade their instant server capacity a while back.
I am getting full slots almost all day and even these things will ease out over time it still annoys me to pieces ;)
Contrary to what blizzard blue postings state, the random heroic instance feature is not bypassing heroic instance lockouts. If you've already done a heroic for the day, and you later get a random heroic for that instance, you are screwed. The bosses will be non-existent.
I'm hoping this is an isolated glitch, or else a known bug, and is not now intended to be the way things work.
I did heroic Nexus earlier, and just now got Nexus as the random heroic. I ported in, cleared trash to Omorok, only to discover Omorok was MIA, backtracked and Keristraza MIA also.
I'm hit or miss on this one. One instance we only missed one boss, but had the last boss. Another one had no bosses at all. Still another ran perfectly normal.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mystic
Lies!Quote:
Originally Posted by Zappy
Lies? Reread my post. I didn't say it's not possible, as I've ran almost every heroic with my 5 shammys -- http://www.dual-boxing.com/showthread.php?t=26153Quote:
Originally Posted by yaki
What I'm saying is the blizzard dungeon tool sucks for random heroics for a 5 shammy group. Since you must select your "role" for each toon, the tank icon is greyed out, so by not having a tank for the group, it will reject the group saying it's not a viable group.
If you ONLY use the LFG tool, and do not do any outside of it, it works as intended. But if you do them outside of LFG random heroic then you can run into problems.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mystic
Not true. I did first boss Oculus, since that's fast...with lfg.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shodokan
Got into it latet and thought, ok i can do first boss fast again...Wasnt there, just like every other instance is bugged when you do it with same grp....Even had first AND second boss spawning in pit, but last boss missing, and the 'event' was missing...
So its bugged.
You reread MY post. All I'm saying is that non-viable doesn't mean what Blizzard thinks it means.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zappy
I would still call a 5x dps group "non-viable" for a traditional PUG. Imagine if you were playing a solo shammy and got grouped with 4 more ele shaman..... even if they COULD do it, I doubt the group would be excited for it, and getting totems organized would be a nightmare...
I'm just going to run them with a tank for simplicitys sake, and if I feel like doing 5 shaman heroics, Ill fly there myself.
The 'town portal' feature is really handy, esp when going through the new instances (i.e. wiping a bunch).
If you park your toons next to a repairer before you port into a dungeon, you can port out mid instance, repair straight away and port back in. Who needs repair bots? :D
Also handy if you forget to stock up on reagents before heading into an istance... ;)
Cheers,
S.
I got UP yesterday for my daily, and got stuck on Skadi ... tried 5 or 6 times, and decided to give up, so I hearthed back (didn't realize i could have ported out for free). I fired up LFD tool again, and clicked "OK" on everyone, and got UP again!
If i'm stuck on one heroic, how do I chose another random dungeon?
I think you're a little unclear on the meaning of random.Quote:
Originally Posted by gitcho
If the problem is that it's incomplete and assumes you want back in, you could try a "reset all instances" command or deliberately give yourself the dungeon deserter debuff and then wait for it to time out.
it's not a logical fallacy to "choose" a "random" dungeon. Thanks for the suggestion though, taking the debuff, waiting the 15 minutes, and resetting all instances worked.Quote:
I think you're a little unclear on the meaning of random.
If the problem is that it's incomplete and assumes you want back in, you could try a "reset all instances" command or deliberately give yourself the dungeon deserter debuff and then wait for it to time out.
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Originally Posted by blbjtb
i got good news for you.... new kick system, 4 vs 1. kick pug invite number 5.
owned ;)
So you form a group of your 4 characters (with a fifth character waiting to be invited), use the LFG / random dungeon, vote kick the guy and then invite your 5th character and still get the bonus?Quote:
Originally Posted by boxblizzard
I think the 5th character doesn't get it since they didn't join the group through the system.
And you definitely won't get the bonus for running with pugs.
Ok, I used Dungeon Finder exclusively last night for heroics.
I got Anh'Khet, Violet Hold, CoS, Gundrak, Nexus, all completed. Then I Violet Hold again. With Violet Hold the second time, entering showed that it was spent, no event starter NPC, no instance reset, no instance lock bypass. The extra 10 emblems from the first five were great, but I certainly was hoping what blue posts said about DF bypassing instance locks. Now every time I get a repeat instance I have to wait for the DF deserter debuff to expire before trying again, and the odds of course get worse on repeats as more are completed.
in thoery, just read above about bonus not applied if you didnt join the random.Quote:
Originally Posted by HPAVC
i needs testing out, i see what i can do 2nite