Why are you on your server? Why haven't you transfered to be with more boxers?

I'm actually looking at xferring at least my shamans at the end of the season.

I'm at a point where I hate my server as it seems to always be in the low pop category even shortly after free transfers get opened to it. In addition, our battlegroup (vengeance) isn't nearly as active as the others, so it's very hard to keep my team above 1800. What I've been looking for is a higher pop server that's in a decent battlegroup. So after compiling the list several times, I finally wrote a small program that takes the census data and combines it with the arena rankings to make a better decision on the US-PVP only realms:

The problem with the census sites is that they only show you the server population, and not the # of 80s, where their datafiles contain that information. I'm also looking to where horde is either outnumbered or close. After running my program, I get the following data:

http://www.garysdecks.com/WoW/RealmData.png

So from the list, it looks like Ner'zhul will likely be my destination (1.3 : 1 alliance/horde ratio), over 6000 active alliance 80s, and the #1 battlegroup.

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Originally Posted by daviddoran

What time is that? We have one guy who lives in Korea, some east coast, mostly west coast. I play until like 1AM PST usually.

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Two guys actually. Mokoi and that Air Force dude... :)

I think that airforce dude /gquit shortly after he joined. unless that was someone else I'm thinking of

What does the "491 / 491 100% Thaurissan" at the top of the screenshot mean?

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Originally Posted by daviddoran

I think that airforce dude /gquit shortly after he joined. unless that was someone else I'm thinking of

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Naa, you're thinking of the wrong one.

AF dude is still there, leveling his warlocks. He brought over an 80 warrior too.

OK. I was thinking of the solo guy also in the military stationed abroad.

Wow how many people are in Korea and in the Air Force? I'm over on Azgalor Horde, Stationed in Korea, with the Air Force. I might make my way over to KJ from here after the new year. I basically don't want to transfer in the middle of a content patch...

I did transfer to Mag with my rogues to pvp but it was hard with the time zone difference :/

Having started the game on Darkspear (PvP), I have come to detest PvP. Perhaps I'm too old fashioned or believe in honorable combat to enjoy WoW PvP. To me PvP is not being 10 levels or more higher and one shotting someone or 5 on 1. I also really hate getting ganked when I'm fighting a mob. OK, yeah I have been ganked too much and I play a Priest (the squishiest of the clothies IMO). So, I went to a PVE server and I do love not having to worry about getting ganked.

That said, I am still learning how to play a group of different classes (I suck at PvP, so I would hate to multi-suck :)). I might be tempted to come over since running around with other MBxers would provide safety in numbers. I know, gank does happen. :).

The cost can be an issue depending on the current bills, most of my friends have went different directions. Isn't KJ in PST? Since I am EST, that means that I would be three hours ahead (not a show stopper).

(oh my macros are self sharding, so I beat Fur to it. :))

KJ is PST.

lol @ self sharding macros

I have a few reasons I stay on Nathrezim, even though it's a mediocre server (but then again, everyone says that about their server). The reasons are:

- I'm the only level 80 multiboxer, on either side. Or at least, I've never encountered another. I've been around long enough and I'm well known (and hopefully respected) at this point. Although I'm pretty much immune to the hate (and jealousy), having a reputation helps.
- There are no high rated multiboxing teams in arena on my battlegroup. Opponents are less accustomed to the comp
- Being well known makes it much easier to get into raids, and anytime I play WG and other BGs I constantly have healers following me around and helping, which is nice
- I've server transferred several times before, both single and multiboxing, and there's always pros and cons. I never found one server to be significantly better than another,.. When I left Sargeras I lost the benefits of a high pop server and good economy, but I got out of that awful battlegroup. Sargeras also seemed to be swarming with punk little kids and elitists, which were irritating to play with no matter what, but I recognized more people... Nathrezim is really transient, but the people seem to be decent as far as wow goes

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Originally Posted by thinus

What does the "491 / 491 100% Thaurissan" at the top of the screenshot mean?

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I'm loading it from the census data:

http://www.warcraftrealms.com/dataexport.php

There are 490 servers listed in http://www.warcraftrealms.com/export...mposite.csv.gz

My program reads that file, and then grabs each server file for PVP and US only to compile all the data. Since it takes it about 10-15 seconds to read it all, it's nothing more than a progress indicator showing how much data it's loaded. I didn't take the time to remove the header row, so it's off by 1. ;)

Love to join you all... but its expensive.... I could maybe transfer 1 char at most, one of my shaman.

Already established on Aman'thul, and not enough multiboxers on other Oceanic realms to transfer to another Oceanic server. And no way am I going back to the US servers, same lag, but every body is asleep during my peak hour, so the realms are dead.

can we get multiple choices ?

I'm considering transfering/rerolling but I have a nice ecology of a lot of toons and a lot of professions etc... and transfering them all (say at least 3 "good" toons accross 6 accounts = 18 characters is a bit expensive ) - not counting 2 guild , one of which has 3 tabs

What I think I will do is roll a new team with BF wow @4.99 and then transfer that team - or transfer just the booster back and forth (but then I need to carefully plan what I send with him, money and mats wise)

Edit: Question about that btw - if you transfer RAF toons do they keep their "grantable" levels across the transfer or you must use or loose before transfer ? (obviously it's probably safer to use before transfer but if it would work to use after that be better as my booster account is "full" on my main realm): found the answer in blizz FAQ: no I'd have to grant before transfer - so that kind of shoots one of the benefits.... maybe I have to transfer a booster and some money and mats to KJ then...

And then there is the potential reason that it may not "work out"

Is there a boxer vent / ts somewhere?

i like the "Don't want to be in guild with Gurblash / Fursphere / Svpernova" option. made me lol.

i choose too established. i dont really db enough to consider myself one. mostly i have the alt one logged when i need stuff and dont want to be bothered with goin to the bank or need ore mined. but primarily because ive got a good amount of people on my server that i know. they all seem to be drifting away so maybe in the future, but we'll see.

For those who like to read meaningless stories:

Why I'm on my current server? Cause it was the 'selected' server when I signed up 5 weeks ago. Played 1 week solo to see if i'd like the game, however I decided to multibox before i signed up.

WoW is my first 3D game. I started with Dark Castle on my Mac in 1986. Never ever played a 3D game. Joined my first text based rpg somewhere in the mid 90s. Was never a big gamer. In 2004 I joined a popular mafia text based rpg. As I wanted to have several builds I had to violate the TOS (only 1 char allowed per person), which resulted in a whole suite to manage that. Played that game for 4 years. Last year i joined a static 2D 'fantasy' rpg, played up to 12 toons simultaneous when someone showed me a link to a 'crazy wow player' article, which turns out to be prepared. While most found that crazy, i found that cook :P Thats how i learned it was possible to box.

Back to october: i got bored with the game i was playing after reaching everything possible. A friend told me about warhammer. Went to the shop to buy it, but to no avail, out of stock. So I bought a copy of WoW classic by accident. Took me a couple of days before I installed it, a few more to sign up, Ever since I first logged in I'm hooked. A week later I started to box with 5 toons. Got 5 more fully upgraded accounts ready to box 10 toons in the future.

I'm boxing cause I don't like to count on other players. I'm not a social gamer, only with people who share the same interests. Which turns out to be boxing.

Why I haven't changed servers yet? First want to ding 80 (hope somwhere next week). Then want to make use of my raf to boost 4 more teams. Signed up on the EU pvp realm mentioned above. Still unsure if i'll transfer my toons or if i will stay on my current server and level up a few teams there. My biggest doubt is that being active on 2 servers. If there was an option to transfer all my toons (besides my main team) at once, i'd probably do it right away (so account transfer instead of toon transfer). But transfering 15 toons is a bit expensive after purchasing tig copies of the game with the upgrades just a month ago.

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Originally Posted by Fursphere

Where is the "boxers transfer to my server" option? :)

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second this

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Originally Posted by Coltimar

I would be in the same boat I'm in now. No one plays when I play.

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Yeah, I play WEIRD hours due to being in Korea, and with so many of us, there's always someone on, never say never :P

Edit: deleted: read the edit the post author I replied to did already

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Originally Posted by zenga

For those who like to read meaningless stories:

Why I'm on my current server? Cause it was the 'selected' server when I signed up 5 weeks ago. Played 1 week solo to see if i'd like the game, however I decided to multibox before i signed up.

WoW is my first 3D game. I started with Dark Castle on my Mac in 1986. Never ever played a 3D game. Joined my first text based rpg somewhere in the mid 90s. Was never a big gamer. In 2004 I joined a popular mafia text based rpg. As I wanted to have several builds I had to violate the TOS (only 1 char allowed per person), which resulted in a whole suite to manage that. Played that game for 4 years. Last year i joined a static 2D 'fantasy' rpg, played up to 12 toons simultaneous when someone showed me a link to a 'crazy wow player' article, which turns out to be prepared. While most found that crazy, i found that cook :P Thats how i learned it was possible to box.

Back to october: i got bored with the game i was playing after reaching everything possible. A friend told me about warhammer. Went to the shop to buy it, but to no avail, out of stock. So I bought a copy of WoW classic by accident. Took me a couple of days before I installed it, a few more to sign up, Ever since I first logged in I'm hooked. A week later I started to box with 5 toons. Got 5 more fully upgraded accounts ready to box 10 toons in the future.

I'm boxing cause I don't like to count on other players. I'm not a social gamer, only with people who share the same interests. Which turns out to be boxing.

Why I haven't changed servers yet? First want to ding 80 (hope somwhere next week). Then want to make use of my raf to boost 4 more teams. Signed up on the EU pvp realm mentioned above. Still unsure if i'll transfer my toons or if i will stay on my current server and level up a few teams there. My biggest doubt is that being active on 2 servers. If there was an option to transfer all my toons (besides my main team) at once, i'd probably do it right away (so account transfer instead of toon transfer). But transfering 15 toons is a bit expensive after purchasing tig copies of the game with the upgrades just a month ago.

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good read - welcome to wow boxing ! also grats to you if you can get your first team to 80 and still have time to boost 4 more teams in a single RAF ? it took me a lot more than 90 days I think to get my first team/toons to 80

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Originally Posted by thinus

Is there a boxer vent / ts somewhere?

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My guild has a vent server (thanks mikey! :D ). But its only for my guild members. :)

I choose my server because the data center is close to me (under 100 pings) and at the time there was a lot more ally then horde (Im horde) so I would have more targets/victims.

I did see 2 other boxers though so far one horde and one ally iirc.

Im on Ner'zhul and it seems ok. I wouldnt go to a non pvp server anyways.

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Originally Posted by Moorea

good read - welcome to wow boxing ! also grats to you if you can get your first team to 80 and still have time to boost 4 more teams in a single RAF ? it took me a lot more than 90 days I think to get my first team/toons to 80

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thanks
Well my first team dinged 60 after about 2 weeks. Not very spectacular given
- the excellent info that is available here
- the great attitude of boxers willing to help noobs and put them in the right direction here
- a guide that tells you basically what to click, where to go and what to do ... one has to be rather retarded to get lost with such a tool
- having enough free time to play, or create the time eventually cancelling a free lance project with the reason being 'too busy' :P
- having 3x xp ....

I figured I can level a team to 60 once I hit 80 with my main in a day or 2-3 (have read stories here from people that can do it way faster, but i guess i'll have to learn the instances first). It's simple math. Since my raf is valid till 18/01/10 I should have plenty of time to level 4 more teams to 60.

Sorry for going off topic

I usually play 8:30 a.m - 3 p.m. CST.

I was a server gypsy, moved so many times as a single boxer looking for the 'right' server:
Mags
Jubei Thos
Frostmourne
Ghostlands
Tichondrius (ally and horde) still have an ally mage there
Barthilas - (almost perfect)

and finally found it - Caelestrasz. I wouldn't move if you paid me and don't transfer here - we have enough boxers. Caelestrasz is not for you ;)

Mostly because I have a lot of chars and it'll be costly to move. I'm not going to start from scratch again, so moving is the only option. However, the company of other boxers would be very nice - especially when rated BGs hit.

I've reached the point where I'd be willing to shell out for a transfer, now I'm just making sure I'm making the right choice ($275 for transfers + faction change - eek) by moving to the EU boxer capital. My current battlegroup (Cyclone) seems pretty soft, but the alleged nasty Misery battlegroup is another matter and I'm a PvP noob since last I PvP'ed was back in BC :-)

but i did move to KJ and even joined LoB. i have too much free floating cash not to waste some of it on wows :)

It very interesting to read your stories :)

Keep em comming, so my day at work will feel shorter :p

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Originally Posted by zenga

thanks
Well my first team dinged 60 after about 2 weeks. Not very spectacular given
- the excellent info that is available here
- the great attitude of boxers willing to help noobs and put them in the right direction here
- a guide that tells you basically what to click, where to go and what to do ... one has to be rather retarded to get lost with such a tool
- having enough free time to play, or create the time eventually cancelling a free lance project with the reason being 'too busy' :P
- having 3x xp ....

I figured I can level a team to 60 once I hit 80 with my main in a day or 2-3 (have read stories here from people that can do it way faster, but i guess i'll have to learn the instances first). It's simple math. Since my raf is valid till 18/01/10 I should have plenty of time to level 4 more teams to 60.

Sorry for going off topic

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Offtopic is my fault

I was mostly curious about the getting to 80 part - I know 1-60 with RAF is very fast - after it gets a lot slower - though I suppose now 60-70 is also very fast as thet gimped the xp needed there too but 71-80 is slow and painful from my recollection, that's the part I'm curious about - I suppose it depends how many hours a day you can play

In any case good luck !

I'm on my server because pretty much most of my RL friends also play on this server. WoW is far more of a social tool for me than a game probably. We were friends long before WoW and will be after. As far as multiboxing goes....this is a fairly recent thing for me.

I'm in the same boat as Ragawaga.

I play online with friends - and just multibox when things are quiet or when they've taken wow breaks.

I only play 3 nights a week, and a recent attempt to split my time over 2 servers isn't really working.

I have already said I wanted to go over there. I guess I can move/level a group on KJ. I have 4-5 Druids on Nethingway doing little. And will RAF the rest. They have some money and skills just been slowing learning to box with them in HFP.
Had to say last option, as the other were reason not to go, and I have none :D

So, I tried to create a team over there, but alas nobody was on. Then I remembered it is an American server - guess its no go for me then since Im oceanic, and as much as Id love to play with you all, when I play on an american server I can only log on at obscure ST times, which really limits what I would be able to do (since Im only 3 boxing and not 5).

Oh well, maybe next time!

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So, I tried to create a team over there, but alas nobody was on. Then I remembered it is an American server - guess its no go for me then since Im oceanic, and as much as Id love to play with you all, when I play on an american server I can only log on at obscure ST times, which really limits what I would be able to do (since Im only 3 boxing and not 5).

Oh well, maybe next time!

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Again, as stated, I am an oceanic boxer as well, I play from about 10am Seoul time (same as perth time maybe?) to 1pm and then again from 10pm to 3am or so weekdays.

I am usually on every day on the weekends and I save money here in Korea so i don't go out much, as its too expensive. I have a lot of people on my friends list who run raids and such, BGs and world PvP oceanic hours too, so even if they aren't in the guild it doesn't mean there's nothing to do! =)

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Originally Posted by olipcs

for me its simple:

I joined a nice not raid orientated guild, some nice guyes from my molten core raid where in and I simply found the perfect home:

- a nice casual family like guild
- nice people, which i have met on several guild meetings in real life
- most of them are 20+, in some kind of job or studing
- not raid oriented
- very open minded about me multiboxing (I never recieved a bad comment from them about it, only a 'cool' and 'how to do it')

..so for me leaving the server or the guild, would be like loosing my 'WoW-home', so a strict no-go.

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Thats pretty much how I started as well.

Except that I started my own guild and got some nice people in there.

Then when we were all at lvl 70 and doing hc's and stuff, some friends in another guild were using my main (holy pally) as their tank healer in Kara and someone brought up the idea of merging guilds so that we would have enough regulars online so we wouldnt have to pug the last few spots in a raid... and end up with assholes.

I still have my original guild where I have my multiboxers and the guys in my main guild all know who to look for if they need me in a raid (although I havent been raiding for the last 3 weeks because of my arm) they would summon me if they needed either of my main healers or my hunter for a raid.

If I was to move servers, it would involve moving them and changing factions as well because I would go to the horde side to play with some friends who moved to another server.

So for now, I am sticking on Anachronos where there is a couple of other boxers, one of which is in my friends list and we are chatting a fair amount as we are playing our boxing team :)

Well I play where the wife plays. :D


We just had a bbq over at our house for our guilds/friends. There were a number of people who are from the denver/springs/front range who made the trip. It was alot of fun and we plan to do it again next summer. As long as the wife plays, I will play.


Edit: Horde for Life!

I play on elune. I've been there launch, played with alot of friends which I still play with there, however there are not any other boxers on Elune. There was one, but I haven't seen him in over a year.
The thought of moving, sounds intriguing, but too costly atm.

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Originally Posted by Mokoi

Again, as stated, I am an oceanic boxer as well, I play from about 10am Seoul time (same as perth time maybe?) to 1pm and then again from 10pm to 3am or so weekdays.

I am usually on every day on the weekends and I save money here in Korea so i don't go out much, as its too expensive. I have a lot of people on my friends list who run raids and such, BGs and world PvP oceanic hours too, so even if they aren't in the guild it doesn't mean there's nothing to do! =)

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Thats really cool, but at the moment on Khaz Im in a guild with 4 other boxers and we have fun on there together. Im quite content on there. And while your method lets you do things at oceanic hours, it kind of defeats the purpose of being on the realm with a whole bunch of boxers if you dont even get to play with em heh.