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Just a followup : over the weekend I leveled 2 more toons from 71 to 75 so far and was averaging between 390 000 to 500 000 xp per hour (according to titan panel): 500k on good streaks of wins and 390 when alliance were being their usual idiots ;-)
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Questions:
Do AV burn Rested XP?
I still have few 68ish. Has anyone tried 60-70 bracket? How's the XP? or is it better to stay in Underbogs or UK
no rested xp burnt ... like questing ...
AV xp is only good in the 71-80 bracket - tried it at 68 and was much slower than questing ... quest till you get to 71...
I really hope they dont nerf this tomorrow =(
no kidding ... it's actually fun to level again ... tons of xp + honor + 3 pieces of free deadly gear when you hit 80? I expect something of a correction by blizzard ... I joined an AV #23 game last night - never seen that many games goin ...Quote:
I really hope they dont nerf this tomorrow =(
I am inclined to believe it would go up rather than down.
I am basing this on the following post. Scroll down for Blue Post.
http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/th...sid=1&pageNo=1
I hope I am not just being overly optimistic.
that post was in response to AV in the 51-60 bracket, where XP does suck ... the 71-80 bracket grants significantly more XP.Quote:
I am inclined to believe it would go up rather than down.
I am basing this on the following post. Scroll down for Blue Post.
http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/th...sid=1&pageNo=1
I hope I am not just being overly optimistic.
Blue post here talks about XP changes in AV (see player vs player heading) : http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?%3Btpstart=10
BAH I did not see that response about 71+ That might not be good at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by gitcho
Blizzard just can not make up their mind they want us to get to 80 faster (RAF, account items) but yet they are thinking about doing something to fix 71+. I am hoping they mean fix the AFK'ers and not the experience. I will be optimistic and hope they are doing something to fix AFK'ers now that would be a very positive thing.
Well I've gone from 71 to 77 on 3 of my shaman in super quick time.
I dinged 3 times on saturday alone - but was playing all day.
Thing is i'm enjoying the hell out of it, and each level brings more fun.
Had to laugh when one moron in BG chat was telling us all to go level, that levelling is quicker, outside of a battleground.
Never ceases to amaze me that people will argue against those with actual practical experience.
One big problem - I have no supporting 80's. So money has been an issue. i had to start training only certain abilities for a while and it's looking like I will only have a flying mount on one of my 80s. However I found something to help with that.
I got to 40k honour on my guys quite quickly and as I had quite a few levels I figured I would hit the level cap too soon, so I used the honour to buy Cardinal Rubys from the Jewelcrafting vendor in the hall of legends.
On alliance side these go for about 150 gold each. On horde on my server they go for about 120. I'd list only a couple at a time, making sure they were lower than any others. 16 of those x 120 was a nice chunk of cash.
I'm now back up to 71k honour on all my guys, but I figure I'll buy two pieces of deadly (the shoulders and gloves) tomorrow ready for me to step in to at 80. It shouldn't take too long to get a third piece either.
I've pretty much only quested in the borean tundra and a chunk of sholazaar, so I'll have to go do questing in all the other areas I skipped to get enough gold for flappers on all, so I can unlock dailies.
Oh - and I meant to say if you have a jewelcraft you could cut the cardinal rubies and make even more money.
(just wish I had a jewelcrafter).
Wait until next week to buy the regular honor gear as it will change with the change of season ? (at least I expect it to be upgraded to 213 or something next level - no ?)
The arena vendors were saying that the new season changes on Tuesday, today they said the new season had started, but the vendors have all the old stuff.
I'm on an Eu server so I suspect they've not quite got the message right.
I will of course wait till the deadly stuff is able to be bought with straight honour.
The message is garbage. It's said 0 minutes till arena season 7 for the last few hours. I'm pretty sure it begins After maintenance.
Im praying this is still true as soon as servers come back up, it will suck if they nerfed the 71-80 bracket of AV.
just hit 80 friday night, did 71-80 in av in 3 days!!! its really insane. In regards to saving the honor for season 7. there is no point. They announce that with the coming of season 7 all gear costs will stay the same. as far as I read you will Not be able to purchase deadly for just Honor.... (then again I could have totally miss understand the blue post lol :eek: /doh)
Anyone check AV xp in 71-80 bracket yet? I dont have a character at that level (below 80 I mean).
I'll check the 71-80 bracket out tonight again. Hopefully not too big a nerf to XP gain if it has been nerfed.
I thought that deadly would be available for honour now - and that the cost for items hadn't changed.
e.g Last seasons gloves and shoulders were 31600 honour, this seasons gloves and shoulders (deadly) would be the same.... please oh please oh please let this be true.
I can confirm that honor and arena gear has been upgraded to 213 (head/shoulder/...) and 226 (for boots, ring, trinkets...)
I should have save some more honor as somehow I thought the boots would stay 213 and I spent 49k honor this past weekend on a pair... oh well...
Excellent. I'll get home, buy two items on each of my shaman and store them for when I hit 80.
Any word on whether this was nerfed? My paladins are almost 71!
I was in there on my shaman last night, and I have to say it hasn't been nerfed significantly.
As far as I could tell bunker caps and belinda kills still yielded the same amount.
Managed to ding 78 and 79 on my guys. Lost most of the games last night but they all involved bunker caps
and belinda kills so a big chunk XP.
I don't think it's been nerfed - I had a bad streak with lots of losses (because there was a lot of afkers and despite giving information people just can't get into their heads to stay on top of towers...) and I still was getting ~300k xp/hour on my now level 76/77 toons
oh its on!
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Originally Posted by heyaz2
I've leveled from 75 to 79.5 and have 75k in honor points. No arena points though. Where do I go to get my mage a "full deadly/furious stuff the day they hit 80".
In the sewers there is a vendor who sells gear for just arena points but its about 35k per piece.
Please let me know where to go... Thanks!
Alliance - Stormwind. Near the test dummies there is a room with a bunch of vendors.
Horde - Orgrimmar. Hall of legends (Across rope bridge from flight master).
75 k honour will get you about 2 pieces. Shoulders and gloves gost 31600 honour a piece. Other gear such as helm cost about 49k.
You can buy the pieces before 80. I bought two pieces when I was 77(obviously can't wear them) but it allowed me to accumulate more honour towards a third piece before I hit 80.
My son ran his Hunter yesterday....6-hours he got almost a level an a half 75-77 ...They won most of the AV he ran in...
Well Im 71 and its sucking. 150k and hour, not exactly something to shout about.
edit: ya been playin for 5 hours and just under 1 million xp. Pretty lame.
Multiblocks sounds like you are getting the worst case scenario. On the upside it takes me ~6 hours to get a level questing. Soooooo start winning some games and everything should be good to go!
Seriously though this AV leveling is something I am really excited to try out. If you have level 80's that can go into AV with lowbies then it should be awesome. I would think alone you can guarantee at least one tower being destroyed.
I went from 71.25 to 72.2 on my Alliance Hunter, Swapped to my 77 Horde Rogue, did 1 AV and got 3k exp.
It all depends on capping towers / killing bosses.
What I was trying to say was
Worst Case Scenario : Leveling in BG's will be approximately as fast as questing
Best Case Scenario: Leveling in BG's will be faster than questing
Was cool to run into you Multibocks.
I am using my 80 Prot Pally and my 4x Shamans @ 72. Due to the high Horde population on Blackrock levelling can take me quite some time questing wise as I get rolled alot.
I wait a few seconds at the start, then head to Galv. If it looks like Fields of Strife are going to be contested then I run up Snowfall and down the other side to avoid them.
I run in help finish of Galv and then sit in IBT till it burns. Every tower your near that burns you get XP it seems - havn't tested the range. Havn't really tested Graveyards properly either.
Once IBT burns (and omg its so fun punting groups of the edge with thunderstorm) I run to TP and help out there and wait till it burns then move in to the maint town and if only one or two towers are up and Horde are getting close to taking Relief Hut I will use initiate the Drek pull and just tank everything - otherwise wait for them to burn and take on Drek.
If I have a really really good game where it goes smooth like that I'm doing about 10% of a level a game. If I have a crap game maybe 5%.
As long as you do Galv/Belinda and camp towers you should be making pretty good honor and XP. This is a crazy fun way to level and sure beats the hell out of questing.
Does anybody else have anymore tips/suggestions?
There is a discussion on Horde AV tactics going on in the PVP forum http://www.dual-boxing.com/showthread.php?t=24166Quote:
Originally Posted by Slats
I never got under 200k/hour even on bad streaks; to get 150k only I guess you must have very long turtle AVs where your team fail to cap anything ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Multibocks
Just so you know how the xp works...
- Destroying a tower or bunker awards roughly 1.16% of a level.
- Defeating Galvangar or Balinda awards roughly 1.16% of a level.
- Winning the match awards roughly 1.55% of a level.
- Players are awarded an extra 0.78% for every remaining tower or bunker their team still has when the match is over, regardless of win or loss.
- Successfully rescuing a Wing Commander awards 0.39% of a level
Xp is for everyone so you don't have to be within a certain range to get it, just in the bg.
Ok so maybe that info isn't very accurate. I just hit 71 and went to the last bracket.
At 70 burning a bunker gives about 5.5k xp.
At 71 burning a bunker gives about 18k xp.
Level 70 and 71 are very similar in the xp requirements to level. Does anyone know if you keep getting about 18k per tower/bal/galv through 80 or does it go up with levels?
I thought I heard it was a percentage of a level, but I have noticed my 70 gets very little experience (probably better to quest from 71). Haven't noticed a difference in leveling time from 71-74 though on my priest, seems about 4-6 hours each time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Smoooth
it goes up slightly ... i've got the BOA shoulders and was getting low 18k at 71, and mid 19k at 79.Quote:
Level 70 and 71 are very similar in the xp requirements to level. Does anyone know if you keep getting about 18k per tower/bal/galv through 80 or does it go up with levels?
I dinged 77 now on my rogue & pally but I'm stopping/pausing because I can't stand AV anymore :-)
(all of 71->77 was entirely in AV) - my average went down to around 300k xp/hour because people in AV really suck - had some fun times too though (like recapping the bunkers and winning with around 500 left)
ps : to use you marks; get the epic ground mound (50 marks), the battle standard (+10% damage bonus) for 30 and the tabbard for 60 marks... after that I got 10 of each potion for 2 mark each (another 40 marks) : total 180 marks consumed but I still have a ton left that I have no use of
Nice to meet you as well! At least no one was really giving us a hard time in AV for multiboxing. I had a few interesting conversations as well. Some guy started in on me later and I told him I had no idea why those 4 guys were following, but if they didnt stop I was going to page a GM for harassment.Quote:
Originally Posted by Slats
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Originally Posted by Schwarz
If you are familiar with all quests in WoTLK you can do a level in 4 hours, less if you have access to flyers. I was literally taking a quest, flying over all the trash, taking out the quest guy and turning in quest in about 45 secs. Flyers are that OP in northrend =)