Damn, I learned a lot from this too thanks for the bump :)
Damn, I learned a lot from this too thanks for the bump :)
I feel like I'm an old guy I refuse to change my ways and make a FTL setup, haha. I just don't have the keybinds to make it happen.
Thanks Asonimie!!!
Great stuff
Software key translations FTW.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ellay
Wow that one button Hex macro is the bomb, I think I'm going to try it out when I get home from vacation tomorrow.
with the hexing whats the best time to do it right before you are about to nuke someone?
To be honest I haven't been using the hex setup yet, although I do use the [target=arena1] for other purposes.
I plan on using the hex system soon, and have been thinking about it. I believe you need to relieve some pressure before stopping to hex, so 1 target needs to die before you waste time hexing. The best situation might be for melee cleave or anyone else who is hard to target.... drop that first noob and then hex to relieve some healing pressure on your healer.
UPDATED AGAIN - MORE OF MY SECRETS!!
You guys are gonna absolutely love this one. I have been using it since 3.2 came out... and it works flawlessly.
Wind Shear huh? could be useful...
My offensive casting in arena consists mostly of the following kill combos(not in any order): EM+FS+LvB, FS+LvB, LB+CL+FrS, Nova+CL+TSx4. These are all capable of killing any target (except destros of course, who require about 60k damage to kill). So the first spell cast is either FlameShock, LB, or CL.. pretty simple.
Soooo, everyone was talking about how to best use wind shear in boxed 5v5... and I believe I've found it lol.
At the beginning of my shamans LB, CL, and Flameshock (both the EM kill button... and normal FS+LvB - I have 2), there is a Wind Shear macro'd to go off first.... except...... its split across 4 targets with the above mentioned [target=arena1] targeting system.
In short - every 6 seconds, 4 different toons on the enemy team get spell interrupted... and it requires absolutely zero thought or attention on my part lol.
I can't tell you how funny it is against caster teams when they rush, and 3-4 people get hit with a little green animation... interrupted... and start backpedaling wondering what the hell just hit them, meanwhile I've launched 8-12 spells at them already.
EXAMPLE
Shaman 1:
/cast [target=arena1,exists,nodead,harm] wind shear
/cast lightning bolt
Shaman 2:
/cast [target=arena2,exists,nodead,harm] wind shear
<assist system here>
/cast lightning bolt
etc etc.
(Updated on initial post)
Sticky Worthy yet?? :P Maybe call it arena macro magic.
Now I was looking at the Gladius keys to enter on here, is this the same one? Or do these need to be each shaman's focus target?
Either way it sounds badass.
I think answering my own question looking previously, these are default in the game? Blahh simple answer I know just wondering what it is.
Neither gladius nor focus.
Ya they are "default" commands, altho I suspect you may need to leave blizz arena frames enabled for them to work... maybe not but I'm guessing the "target=arena1" calls upon blizz arena frames... havent tried turning them off I should do that.
They basically are default macro commands that fit in the "target variable" position of the macro. Use them the same as any other /target XXX or [target=XXX] type call. Options are: arena1, arena2, arena3, arena4, arena5.
Who knows, maybe theres some use for /assist arena1 that I haven't thought of yet. Theres prolly some other way to use this, I'll think of it :P
What does this mean? I've tried /assist focus, even /assist name - doesn't work.Quote:
Originally Posted by asonimie
If you want to use a focus based assist system, I believe the command is:
/assist [target=focus]
If you just want to assist a person, they must be in your party or raid, and its:
/assist toonname
If you are using a Follow The Leader or Focus-less/Target-less system, you'd insert the assist line there.
Just a note that arena1..arena5 are valid unitids that don't require using Blizz's UI.Quote:
Originally Posted by asonimie
If you're curious, all the unitids are documented at: http://www.wowwiki.com/UnitId
I suspected as much. Turned off my blizz frames this week. Thanks for the info!Quote:
Originally Posted by Reglar
Will it get stuck on the first cast if wind shear is on cooldown?Quote:
Originally Posted by asonimie
does it?Quote:
Originally Posted by heyaz
If it doesent im gonna sooo use this. But how is the mana efficency on it? and how does it work if the mob is out of range of the shock but not the LB?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Eloxy
It doesn't get stuck by anything (out of range, on cooldown, facing wrong way etc). I've been using it for about a month now and I've never had a LB or CL stall. Probably cause it's two different /cast calls... instead of a castsequence. I was worried about mana efficiency in the beginning too... and to be honest the difference isn't very noticable. Season6 I would drink once in a while... feels about the same now. Its hax :)
It means that's where your assist system goes. When focus for the macro hasn't been declared yet, it will rely on good old /assist system targeting to pick a target - just like any other multiboxed spellcast..Quote:
Originally Posted by thedreameater
Different types of Follow/Assist control setups, and corresponding macro example:
Group leader setup (/assist party1),
Specific toon leader setup (/assist Frank),
FTL system (/assist [mod:ctrl,nomod:alt,nomod:shift] Toon1; [mod:ctrl,mod:alt,nomod:shift] Toon2; [mod:ctrl,mod:shift,nomod:alt] Toon3)
Focus Leader System: (/assist focus)
If you are using a focus leader setup... then half this thread will be unusable to you(focus needs to be available for targeting), and for arena purposes I would recommend going group leader or specific toon leader before using focus leader. If you are confused what I'm talking about, then this thread is honestly over your head and you need to read more on introductory multiboxing setup.
Hope this helps.
Anyone know if I could add the windshear part if I use a /cast sequence macro for my main nuke with the /click method?
IE:
cast [target=arena1,exists,nodead,harm] wind shear
/castsequence flame shock reset=8 ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
???
My other ones are fine because its a normal /cast macro but for my main nuke I use the /click method from the PVE threads in PVP still
I would think the wind shear could go just about anywhere, as it's free to use whenever since it is off the GCD.
I'm not terribly familiar with how you're using /click, but maybe this will help.
You can add target specifications to a /castsequence just like you can add to a /cast macro.
example(my clones entire EM+LvB macro):
#showtooltip elemental mastery
/assist [mod:ctrl,nomod:alt,nomod:shift] Taj; [mod:ctrl,mod:alt,nomod:shift] Maj; [mod:ctrl,mod:shift,nomod:alt] Haj
/cast [target=focus,exists,nodead][] furious gladiator's mail gauntlets
/cast [target=arena3] wind shear
/cast elemental mastery
/castsequence [target=focus,exists,nodead][] reset=8 flame shock,lava burst,chain lightning
as you can see, you can add targeting information to a /castsequence as well... hopefully that will help as well.
WORKING!
I implemented both the hex and windshear macros this morning and i must say i am most pleased :) U imideatly can feel the pressure on you vs a caster team is realy reduced =)
And half of the time those heals ure thinking "crap... i got him to 10% and now hes getting healed" the heals dont come off due the the 6 sec interupt ;)
I can feel the mana is slightly faster gone, but i finish the games faster to so its gg ;)
I recomend this to anyone doing arenas!
thx asonimie!
(ps. sticky this)
i am having some mana issues implementing this method as a couple games I have 3 shamans + 1 healer left where my shamans are just out of mana. The other team has 1 dps + 1 healer left. and they just pick me apart 1 by 1. kinda frustrating to lose it that way.
I wonder if it is worth taking the mana regen talent in elemental tree over lightning overload as i didn't get many LB out anyway.
With max'd out pvp gear and water shield up the whole match, I do really well on mana. If this is a strain on your gear then remove it until your gear improves. It works really well for me in max gear tho, so I would eventually recommend this to everyone.
hmm, let me try water shield. was using lightning shield lol. what was i thinking. I guess cleave teams really got to my head. The wind sheer macro is great. I just couldn't keep up with the mana.
I've got this little guy bound to everything now, I can't wait to try some 5s games with it :) It should make wizard cleave a hell of a lot easier.
line 1: (keep track of important cooldown)
line 2:(*** = insert your assist system)
line 3: (I use platinum disks of sorcery (best clickable SP trinket for arena) instead of pyro rocket, if you use engineering pyro rockets, just replace this line with /use rockets)
line 4: this is the great part. Its both a target AND focus based macro, if your focus is set to someone, and they're alive... it will fire on the focus. If the focus is dead, OR hasn't been assigned yet (no focus), it will default to and fire on your current target. Awesome for focus gibbing your first target in arena, then using it again as a normal FS+LvB combo against new targets... without having to re-assign focus). Also works as my instant gib in WG/Bgs, where I never stop to assign focii.
Here is the dilemma for me:
The pyro rocked will hit instantly to the Main's target, or, shoot random enemy if there is NO target assigned...the end result is: it won't hit the "focus" target that I want. In order to make it hit the "focus" target, Line 3 need to be changed to something like "/use [@focus] 10". However, it seems still not working for me 100%. Certainly, I could put "/tar areanX"before using the rocket, but it defeats the main purpose of stealth focus target.
Wondering anyone has a work around?
Update:
Never mind: I think I have found the answer from asonimie:
#showtooltip elemental mastery
/assist [mod:ctrl,nomod:alt,nomod:shift] Taj; [mod:ctrl,mod:alt,nomod:shift] Maj; [mod:ctrl,mod:shift,nomod:alt] Haj
/cast [target=focus,exists,nodead][] furious gladiator's mail gauntlets
/cast [target=arena3] wind shear
/cast elemental mastery
/castsequence [target=focus,exists,nodead][] reset=8 flame shock,lava burst,chain lightning
Need to learn reading full threads first.. my bad. :P