I am ready for ten boxing raids but I am taking a break from the game for a few weeks.
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I am ready for ten boxing raids but I am taking a break from the game for a few weeks.
Update: Currently have Archavon, Noth, Heigan, and Loatheb down.
Awesome! Gratz! Can you please share Heigan and Loatheb starts on the other post? Thanks a lot!Quote:
Originally Posted by 'Bigfish',index.php?page=Thread&postID=185662#post 185662
Heigan is tricky. I had a disease cleansing totem dropped for one party, and the other I had my priest focusing on casting Renew, PW: Shield, Circle of Healing and Cure Disease for the 5 not covered by the totem. My druid kept hots up.
I kept everyone on the platform for phase one. My caster DPS took a hit, but it saved on the confusion of managing two independant groups, and my Melee DPS didn't notice at all. When Phase two starts, I would run my lead out to the first safe spot with everyone on follow, and used strafe keybinds to keep everyone moving. Took some getting used to, but not too bad once you get the movement down. If you can get everyone through Phase 1 and Phase 2, its just a wash, rinse, repeat. I even managed to get The Safety Dance.
Loatheb isn't nearly as tricky, although will still be bad if you don't do it right. I've found it best to run my tank away from the group and try to avoid getting him the spore "buff" until about a minute in to the fight, at which point I find it shouldn't really matter. I kept PW: Shield up on my tank at all times, and when there were 2 seconds left on Necrotic Aura, I'd cast Wildgrowth and start a Healing Touch on my druid, and start casting Prayer of healing on my priest, and follow with a Circle of Healing and a Holy Nova on my priest. This kept everyone topped off until near the end of the fight. Once Healing and Threat Building are figured out, its just a DPS race to kill him before damage becomes unmanagable.
Going to try Spider Wing tonight. Not sure how I'm going to handle any of these fights, but should be interesting.
i dont box, anymore but im sure you can handel sartharion easy, all you have to do is awoid walls on 9 of your toons it dosent matter if your tank eats the walls, iv 4 manned the instance, so if you bring your 10 toons im sure you can handel him
I tried Sartharian instead of spider wing last night. Got 2 drakes down, but the one that goes immune caused a few problem. I think it's doable, its just a matter of positioning and control.
ah ye i totaly forgot about shadron, he might make give you a ghard time since you must enter the portal there
Arachnid wing down. Will post strategies tomorrow.
I have to say, the difficulty of bosses in some of the wings seems kind of out of whack. Spider wing goes Hard, Easy, Easy, while the plague wing goes Easy, Hard, Easy. Seems kind of weird. Just an observation on my part though.
Anub'Rehkan
The two difficult aspects of this fight are the Crypt Guards and Locust Swarm. I set up my off-tank as the main assist. I positioned my group at the edge of the arena, and pulled the boss tot he green circle in the center, just in range of the casters. With the boss in position, I run my melee up, and we DPS the boss until a crypt guard spawns. The off tank picks it up and all DPS switches to it until it is dead. DPS switch back to the boss. At around 160k left on the boss, the melee pull back to where the casters are in preparation for the incoming locust swarm. When the swarm hits, I spam the Main Tank with heals, while the off tank picks up the simultaneously spawned crypt guard, and the DPS kill it. Locust Swarm has worn off by about the time the guard dies, at which point the fight becomes a rinse and repeat affair.
Grand Widow Faerlina
This fight is a fairly simple tank and spank. She does minimal damage out of enrage, and she and her 4 adds can all be tanked together. A poison cleansing totem helps. When I fought her, her adds died more or less at nice intervals from AOE damage, although the last two died at the same time and she got a few seconds of enrage off just before she died.
Maexna
Another simple fight. Poison cleansing totem on the tank saves a lot of trouble. When someone get's wrapped, I would use a line of "/petattack [target=web wrap]" and just enter-alt up-enter to get the pets to kill it. It wasn't perfect, but with only a little over 2-million HP, the fight doesn't last long regardless. Remember to AOE the spiderlings.
Update: Apparently Maexxna didn't like my strategy. Turns out , Army of the dead REALLY helps out with this encounter, as the zombies help keep your actualy raid members from getting glued to the wall. Also, Ret Aura and Thorns really help during this fight.
Thanks for all the strategies and stories of success. They motivated me to finally put my toons together into solo 10 man raids. Here are the results:
VoA - couple of wipes figuring things out, but finished it... twice. I have 20 level 80s and once I was successful with one group I figured I'd try the less geared one. They downed him as well. Too bad 2 rogue pieces dropped - DKs and rogues are the only classes not represented in my teams.
Patch (Naxx) - Downed him on the 4th attempt. Setting up all the healing macros and getting things set up took a while. In the last two attempts he killed both tanks at his <5% enrage, then started after my healers/DPSers. The first time he took them out, the 2nd time I took him out with four toons left standing.
Noth (Naxx) - 1st attempt got him to 28% so I figured it would be easy. Took 5 more attempts to actually get him down. Ended up switching out my OT and adding another DPS. Makes it busy as the MT maintainng agro on everything but overall it is less complex.
Heigan (Naxx) - Spent the day wiping on this guy. Strafing is definitely the way to go when dancing - follow has way too much lag to have a chance. My big problem wasn't the disease or dancing, it was trying to do the slow dance with my tank while staying between 25 feet and 35 feet (or so - whatever that narrow band is between "out of range to heal, so dead" and "too close, heals take 3X as long, so dead"). The transitions between fast and slow dancing are a bit tough as well, but the hard part is staying in the "healing band". Those of you who have done it, any tips for this? I'm playing with 2 priest healers, so they are keeping up renew and PW: Shield, but those alone don't do it.
Haven't tried anything else yet. Would like to get Heigan down so I can do the easier boss with better loot (Loetheb).
Again, thanks for the encouragement and stories of success. I'm pumped at getting VoA and two Naxx bosses down, even if I have spent over 1K on repairs :P
for heigan have your casters stay on the platform and your melee slow dance at 30 yards during phase1. When he teleports you have about 5 seconds for your tank to head to the start of the room and your casters to do the same (you can follow and hope they make it in time, throw off some COHs, holy novas, etc to heal everyone up), get into strafe spot, and then start strafe dancing during the fast phase. rinse and repeat, shouldn't hopefully have to go through more than 2 or 3 dances.
Thanks for the reply puppychow. I understand the mechanics very well (after doing it like 12 times playing one toon in Naxx raids - never died in all those dance phases after the very first time). My problem is during phase 1 - keeping the tank in the "healing zone".Quote:
Originally Posted by 'puppychow',index.php?page=Thread&postID=188292#po st188292
Too close = healer casting speed debuff = no heals = dead tank. Too far = heals don't land b/c tank is too far = dead tank. That's what causes me to fail. Is this not a problem for other people?
his aura is 30 yards, so yeah you need to judge the distance pretty well since heal max is usually around 35-40 yards -- some of the healing spells with 30 yard ranges will be worthless during phase1. Usually you'll want your caster pit in the middle of the platform, and then your tank/melee about 15-20 yards away from the platform. I don't have any pics of his room but once you find that sweet spot its pretty easy to keep that distance always.
There IS another strat, especially if you have a druid healer. Remember, the debuff only causes 300% casting speed for mpm=instants. So you use only instant heals and tank and DPS him on the platform - the damage taken on the platform is minimal, especially if you have disease totem/cleansing. If most of your DPS is melee this is great, if most of your DPS is casters this won't work. You still need to dance in phase2 either way. Also remember in phase2 there is no aura debuff, so you don't have to maintain 30 yard distance from him - just remember his platform erupts as well so you can't stay on it.
I set up from the beginning to have only ranged DPS, so other than my hunter autoshots and a random dot from a druid, shammy, or lock, this would be a very slow process. With only priests to heal the best I can do is Renews, PW: Shields, and Prayers of Mending. Guess I could throw in a binding heal or 3 and even CoH or Holy Nova, but mana wouldn't last long.
Then again, I could add in two balance druid's HoTs and that would probably keep me up till the healers ran out of mana. It would give me lots and lots of time to practice dancing and the transitions and I suppose he'd eventually go down after 30 mins or so - depending on the healer's mana.
A halfway technique that would take the whole healing distance thing from wiping me would be to go ahead and dance in phase 1 as normal, make the druids solely HoT, use only instants on the priests, and attack with everyone else. If I got too close it would mean less DPS but staying alive. Well, off to try some of this stuff out...
We run this with 3 drivers so not quite your shoes, but I have one healer perma-spamming on the MT, and the other perma-spamming on the off tank. My MT healer is a paladin so I just have her keep beacon up on herself so if I miss moving out of a void zone while fiddling on the other side of the portal it's not fatal. Everyone else goes through the portal. All assists set to the OT. The add inside is pretty squishy and will go down fast. By putting the follow and assist on the OT you can more easily get everyone facing the right way on either side of the portal and hitting the right target. At least this system works well for our setup.Quote:
Originally Posted by 'Bigfish',index.php?page=Thread&postID=186977#post 186977
Instructor Razuvius down. Will post strat tomorrow.
Interesting obeservation on Razuvius: if you have a DK or warrior as a controller, you can't have a macro that uses /cast Blood Strike or /cast Taunt, as it tries to use the class ability instead of the pet one. Also, apparently the controller can still take action while controling (I think), so I may have to look in to putting in some ranged classes as controllers to see about upping my DPS.
Instructor Razuvius
For this fight, I had to write some specific /castsequences for my controllers.
Fight starts with the MT taking control of an understudy. Takes position in green circle. OT taunts the other understudy, because the orb tries to take control of the nearest one, which is a REALLY stupid mechanic. Once the two understudies are under control, they begin their taunt dance, refreshing the control orb every 2 taunts. At this point, its just a matter of DPSing down the boss and hoping nothing goes wrong, spot healing as necesary.Code:Paladin MT macro
/target i
/castsequence reset=combat Bone Barrier,taunt,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
/cast Blood Strike
DK OT macro
/target i
/castsequence reset=combat ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,bone barrier,taunt,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
/click PetActionBar4
I tried this last night. Killed several waves on live side, and mobs just piled up on dead. Next thing I knew, gate opens and I had 20 angry ghosts Arcane Explosioning my Raid.Quote:
Originally Posted by 'puppychow',index.php?page=Thread&postID=179804#po st179804
Ok, i took the plunge yesterday to 10 boxing.
But im currently RAFing so it will take some time i guess before i make my first raid.
Anyway, I dont have much ells to do when the wife is working then to play wow waiting for summer to come so i can spend some time on the beach. :D
Been a busy week, so I haven't had much time for progression. Mostly been farming. I am moderately annoyed at the loot tables so far, since I seem to be getting at least 1 repeated item per boss, if not 2. Staves off Loatheb I don't mind so much. Repeat drops of Holy Pally Plate kind of make me cry. Gothik and 4 Horsemen are next on my list. Gotta run some daililes for cash first thoughQuote:
Originally Posted by 'Fursphere',index.php?page=Thread&postID=190230#po st190230
Actually, come to think of it, I might take a break for a while. Not that any of this stuff is impossible, just that its overly frustrating and I'm only getting slight marginal improvements in gear. I'm just not a push-content-for-the-sake-of-pushing-content sort of guy.
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Yeah, Bigfish, I know what you mean. I went and downed VoA twice this week on my two 10-man teams and got four PvP drops :\. (One wipe on one group.)
Went into Naxx and got Patch down on the third try (but between soulstones and shammy reincarnates not painful at all), downed Noth on the first try, then tried Heigan again. After dying twice I decided not to spend five hours on him like last weekend and left, happy with two bosses down in a couple hours.
Seems like once you get the fights down they are easy to farm, but I wiped seven times or so figuring things out last week the first times I did Patch and Noth. I'll keep farming those every week since they are pretty quick now, but I just didn't feel like blowing half a day figuring Heigan out. It'll come - there is no rush and there are plenty other things to do in-game. (Like doing a few more dailies and buying three more epic flyers to add to my current 17).
I just took the plunge in to 10 boxing after 5 boxing for the past year and a half, Just downed VoA and gonna move on to naxx soon! I got my original 5 man team which are pretty much got heroic and t7 stuff and my brand new all in blue shammys and dk
Prot pally, afflication warlock, fire mage, shadow priest, holy priest, elemental shammy x3, resto shammy, frost dk (on Arthas - PvP - Us)
Has anyone downed the new boss in VOA as a solo multiboxer (ie you are the only person controlling all 10 chars)? Just curious, even after the nerf this week it seems pretty hard to multibox.
I only 7 boxed it before nerf. As I posted in another thread, the key is positioning. I place them in a way that it becomes a totally static fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by 'puppychow',index.php?page=Thread&postID=199305#po st199305
I'm sure I could at least 9 box it without many problems. 10 box it would, in my opinion require a tank with gear I don't have (so he could take both adds and boss).
The boss isn't the problem, since with a DK it can just mitigate almost all damage (magic), nor the adds by themselves, the problem is more the 5 sources of damage during the enrage.
The nerf on the hp was huge (220k to 140k). While 7 boxing it (6 dpsers 1 Healer) I was able pre nerf to down the add at around 7th mark. Now, I believe it's no longer a challenge. So, it also means that the tank tanking the adds will suffer less damage which might then make it possible to 10 box it. I don't think I'll try because it wouldn't be fair to my friends playing with me. Pugging it can still suck...
I don't know if they nerfed the damage they do but in reality reducing the hp in this precise case = reduce overall damage for the fight.
they definitely nerfed the chain lightning damage too, before it would kill anyone it jumped more than 1 jump to (25k+ dmg) now it seems to do a flat 10k dmg no matter how many jumps it takes. it was funny in 25 last night it jumped to around 12 people, would have been a wipe but everyone lived haha
Good to know but with this method it's 100% guaranteed 0 CL damage throughout the whole fight. Any idea about the damage on basic attacks they make? If it has been nerfed too?Quote:
Originally Posted by 'puppychow',index.php?page=Thread&postID=200545#po st200545
I soloed Emalon last weekend. I made a couple posts about it in my Naxx thread that Aelly put on the main page. Check it out if you want.
Good luck!