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This makes me want to roll 5 boomkins too! Just got my death knight to 80, my pally + 4 shammy team is still only 66, and i'm a little bored with them. I'm not willing to buy more accounts, so no RAF for me.
I'd like to do a lot of instances to level the druids, so how good are they at low level? Are instances like RFC and WC even doable with 5 boomkins? Only advantage i see over 5 shamans at low levels is 5 x root
You can't get moonkin form until level 40. Also, the success of 5 moonkin relies heavily on simultaneous targetting and there's no managable legit way of doing this at the moment and there's no guarantee (or even indication) that the tool he is talking about is real or legit (although I do hope it is).Quote:
Originally Posted by 'Piecemaker',index.php?page=Thread&postID=156600#p ost156600
For what it is worth, Hotkeynet handles the aoe targetting very easily. You can either bind a ctrl mouseclick to transmit mouseclick to your slaves, or you can bind a button to transmit mouseclicks.
I think one of the problems with mouse-cursor broadcasting (as far as I understand) is that it wont place the AE spell in the same area unless all the chars have same view settings and are standing in the same place?Quote:
Originally Posted by 'BoxerFest',index.php?page=Thread&postID=156606#po st156606
Well.....it seems to work for targetting Rain of Fire......I broadcast a click in the general area in front of me and it seems to work fine. My settings are probably the same, but the toons are definitely not in the same place.Quote:
Originally Posted by 'Fuzzyboy',index.php?page=Thread&postID=156615#pos t156615
Basically with my 5x druid team (lvl 76 now) this is what I did...
1 - 44 w/RAF took about 6-8 hours or so. I had a team waiting by to assist with SFK/SM runs which is why the low /played time was so low. I didn't even mess with talents as I didn't want to be slowed down. I did kitty form when got it the whole way.
44 - 58 was done doing pure Strathome runs with my trusty pally friend. Great times. I trained boomkin while in Strat and start having amazing fun with hurricanes, though at the time it had a cooldown.
58-70 was done about 20% questing in BC and 80% running mana tombs. Over and over and over. By level 68 I could do mana tombs in just a handful of pulls thanks to AOEing massive groups of elites (my largest was 8 groups in 1 aoe pull.. lol don't ask :)
70-72 was pure questing. Very fast I might add (thanks to http://wtbblue.com).
72-74 I did UK. Easy as pie thanks to a ton of roots and trees.
74+ I am starting to grind out instances. I'm not sure which one is the best but I'm learning it. I can say without a doubt that every instance so far with 5x boomkins is easily AOEable and can be run extraordinarily fast. I simply hot heal my guys up, switch to boomkin, run around and aggro, then AOE often 2-3 pulls at once which are the same level as my druids. Sometimes 1 druid will die, but I'm getting the hang of it. The key is to grab the mobs all together in the first 3 seconds and start AOEing on the 5th second. This maintains a ginormous amount of HOT heals while doing hurricains. It takes 2 hurricains to kill an infinite amount of elites, which all can be done in the timespan of the HOT heals for the most part.
I've seen a few posts debating the mouse targeting. I've spent the past 3 months creating something I'm going to release to the multiboxing public. It is extreeemly easy to use, requires no scripting of any sort, 100% pure GUI, easy as cake to use. There isn't scripting because the program is very dumb in its operations. Some people have made queries if tools like this are against the TOS. Well, at one point, it was in the gray if tools like Keyclone was. The facts are the Keyclone has a lot more intelligence than my program, and my program is built around the whole concept of "1 switch throws 5 switches" that I saw a Blizzard employee stat was okay. Obviously I cannot guarentee anything, however, my tool is created specifically to be as easy on the rules of the game as possible.
Anyway, I'm proud to say it is damn near done. I'm just working on a couple tweaks. I'm even tempted to post a screenshot of it in action :) Bear with me a little while longer and it'll be up and ready.
PS - For those who PM'd me, give me about a week and I'll get you a beta copy before the others have it. I'm just working out a few bugs as I've recently decided to port it from .NET to standard C++ WPL and have a tiny few bugs to work out.
Reading your story makes me remember how happy I am that i rolled a team of Druids with RAF. They are level 62 now. I was thinking of jumping on my level 65 hunters to get them to NR but reading this makes me miss my druids. Maybe they will be next in line! Before I do this I need to get my main shaman team on epic flyers and am about 25.5K Gold short. :)
BTW, I also have a team of Rogues at level 60. I was thinking about 10 boxing down the road and was thinking how much fun 5 rogues and 5 boomkins could be. Looking foward to that as well!
I never used mouse-cursor broadcasting but what i did was bound a castsequence macro for dropping trees following up with hurricane. Works pretty good. Once your trees start dropping they aggro everything and give you time to finish switching to the other windows to finish the sequence.Quote:
Originally Posted by 'Fuzzyboy',index.php?page=Thread&postID=156615#pos t156615
my 5x boomkin are 77 atm :]
here's the main:
http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...erfist&n=Allai
leveling has been a blast, but I'm kind of burned out on it right now-- I've leveled straight from 1-77 without stopping at 70 (i went to northrend at 68 ) so i'm trying to mix it up with other games (like Left 4 Dead, check it out!)
mostly i like popping all my trees + starfall. it works great against large groups of alliance! :D
Sounds like an awesome team for sure, later on when you get some free time post up a few video clips, I bet alot of folks here would enjoy them (I definitely would) the AOE crazyness that you use to kill multiple trash packs in instances sounds OP! Also some PVP trees involving gankage via 15x trees would also be most welcome :thumbsup:
man, i prefer casters, but i wasn't ever going to touch druids with my 5box team ... but I will totally change my mind and run up a team if this is true!
NEED VIDEOS!!! (or it didn't happen?) :P or pics at the very least, or combat log or SOMETHING! (i vote for video!) 8o puleeze and thank you
i had been planning on making some sort of pvp vids at 80, but i'll see if i can't get a decent boomkin pwnage video tonight :thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by 'gitcho',index.php?page=Thread&postID=156718#post1 56718
Okay I'd love to make a video but I know absolutely nothing about making videos. I own a copy of Sony Vegas Platinum but I've no idea how to use it.
Could somebody here take a video I record and do some editing and toss in tight music? That'd be hella awesome!!!
if you need hosting for the original file, PM me
well i got some decent footage while i was running around tonight, you can watch it here:
http://files.filefront.com/druidswmv/;12609496;/fi
i don't use filefront usually... can you 'Download Now' to get higher quality?
nothing special, just running around killing some alliance and some mobs.. there's a lvl 80 elite there with 75k hp that i take down pretty fast. also aoe'd quite a few mobs outside argent strand, ganked a few alliance, etc. so you can kind of get an idea of what 5 druids can do. btw if you don't like screamo/hardcore, turn down the volume. song is We Are the Sound - Alexisonfire
Very very imba. Don`t want to meet 5boomkins in the arena lol.
How did you level them? As feral or caster? Instances or quests? RAF or not?
That video makes me happy. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by 'David',index.php?page=Thread&postID=156936#post15 6936
I have a Boomer, who's the main for my little team - druid, lock, mage, and she does a great job, and I've wondered how 5 would do. I know it's a lot to ask, but any chance of a Mac version of your software? (if not, I'll be getting it and using it in BootCamp on my iMac!)
Also, can your software be used for other classes? Like Locks?
Also, how are you dealing with mana management? With my 3, the Boomer runs out fast, the lock second (still working on drain macros), and the mage seems to never need any.
A run down of your gear would be very cool, too. :) How did you glyph them?
And if it's not too much trouble, how are the buffs working? I'd miss the Int buff from my mage, but it looks like you don't need it- or I guess you could beg a mage. Heh.
Excellent work, Boomers rock - and you don't have trees, you have a friggin' FOREST! :)
I leveled them caster all the way, RAF'd through azerothQuote:
Originally Posted by 'David',index.php?page=Thread&postID=156936#post15 6936
First off, every time you said 'Boomer' i thought of left 4 dead...Quote:
Originally Posted by 'Gadzooks',index.php?page=Thread&postID=156986#pos t156986
here's the main's armory page:
http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...erfist&n=Allai
i don't remember what all the glyphs they have are... i know i got 4 of them the insect swarm glyph, they all have the reagent-less battle rez glyph, i don't remember other than that.
as far as mana management, i pretty much just kill stuff til my guys start getting low, then pop innervate on them all (just remembered, i have the innervate glyph too )
the software i use is Keyclone, i don't think there's a mac version out there but you could probably look around in the software forum for help there.
Hi Evilseed! I'm very excited to hear about your program for simulcasting druid ae abilities. I have had a 5x boomkin team for a while now so I'd be happy to test that program for you if you still need a tester. Please PM me if you do and I'd be happy to help. Otherwise can you please make another post when it's released? thanks so much in advance for your hardwork! :)
I have my three moonkins up and running (still fairly new to multiboxing 61, 61, 60) but this is really making me want to 5-box. Is it even possible on a latop (I have an ASUS gaming laptop that is about one year old)?
I almost feel like 3-boxing would be halfassing it after reading this. Plus, I'm not sure 9 treants would take down much... certainly not nearly as powerful as 15 treants.
You'd need to list the specs of the laptop for us to be able to get an idea of your limits.Quote:
Originally Posted by 'Owltoid',index.php?page=Thread&postID=157040#post 157040
i'd like to see a glyph that does something for the trees, like maybe increase duration, decrease cooldown, idc. Maybe add an extra tree? that would take me up to 20 ^^
Quote:
Originally Posted by 'pengwynman',index.php?page=Thread&postID=157043#p ost157043
Sorry for the thread hijack! I'm getting a bit jealous after hearing the super moonkin power!
Here are the specs for my laptop:
Asus G1 gaming laptop, Intel Core 2 Duo T7200 2.0GHz processor, 2GB of DDR2 667 RAM, NVIDIA GeForceGo 7700 GPU with 512 MB RAM
Any chance of success with running 5 at once? Are players receptive to doing 10 man instances while you control 5 of the players?
5 would really be pushing it, i don't think you'd be able to get playable performance with a 2.0 dual core and 2 GB of memoryQuote:
Originally Posted by 'Owltoid',index.php?page=Thread&postID=157049#post 157049
Depends on the players. I have some friends that are pretty stoked about trying raids with me. If you can do your job in the raid well, then you should be able to find a group for it without too much trouble. It would be best to find a group that is willing to stick with it and try new things with you.Quote:
Are players receptive to doing 10 man instances while you control 5 of the players?
That laptop won't work for 5. My desktop is getting upgraded as I am not happy with 5 accounts on it and Lich King zone performance. 2GB would mean you are using HD as extra ram and it would mean long load times and lots of lag.
I can't wait to see how heroics go for you on Druids. I'm skeptical as the stuff I have seen that was ranked "normal" on difficulty has been pretty hard for my group. Also I imagine you will have to use resilience so your main doesnt get crit by bosses (7500 health per second healing is great, but if you get crit for 20k... well it's game over.) Also your targetting system will be a boon for all DK MBers too.
How do you setted up your healing keys?
I was thinking of:
Shift+1=Healing Touch on focus
Shift+2=Healing Touch assist focus
Shift+3=Rejuvenation on focus
Shift+4=Rejuenation assist focus
Shift+5=Regrowth on focus
Shift+6=Regrowth assist focus
But i dont know. I only have chainheal and lesser healing wave assist and heal main(focus) on shift1+2+3
How did you setted up urs?
-Totemic
i don't really have anything special set up, basically just shift+1-4 are my heals, all of them are just /cast [target=focustarget, exists, help]... there are a few extra mods in there like alt for self-target, but i don't have any *heal focus* macrosQuote:
Originally Posted by 'Negativ1337',index.php?page=Thread&postID=157073# post157073
okay :>
One of my laptops are comparable and i can 4 box on it fine with toned down graphics and sound disabled on 3 of the wow instances. Found that out when i was hurt and trying to wow on my couch lol. I wouldnt want to PVP with it but for just instancing it was ok.
If you need anymore beta testers toss me a PM, i have several teams that would make good use of such a utility. Right now i m click broadcasting with good results but it would be cool to try none the less.
Peace
Good rule of thumb--
1 core per client = good performance
2 cores per client = OK performance
more than 2 cores per client = asking for trouble
Quadboxing a dual-core system is not bad, GENERALLY SPEAKING. Depends on the details of the rest of your system, which may be a challenge for some laptops.
Definitely turn off sound on all but the lead client.
If you can run 3 clients OK, it's worth a shot to try 4. 4-->5 is a big step up because it requires asking a dual-core system to run 3 clients on a core.
I´m 5 boxing on a laptop nearly like this it works fine (for me) I only have to avoid bg's but 5er instances or questing are ok.Quote:
Originally Posted by 'pengwynman',index.php?page=Thread&postID=157054#p ost157054
But I´m still in outland so I don´t know how it is in wotlk then.
I have all at very low settings and just one monitor.
Intel Core Duo T2450 2.0 GHz, 2Gb Ram NVIDIA GeForceGo 7600
Hey guys,
I do know that some laptops can play 5 at once. I have an alienware m-51 with a core 2 duo (desktop version) with dual video cards SLI Gefore 7900gtx OC and 4gigs of ram, solid state hard drive for main OS and raptor 10krpm hard drive for my WoWs. The key is to have some extreme graphic processing power. It plays 5 wows just fine.
Too bad I never use the laptop. Ever. Wanna buy it? :)
have you tried walking around in shatt or especially dalaran?Quote:
Originally Posted by 'btw82',index.php?page=Thread&postID=157168#post15 7168
Think you meant to say "clients per core" rather than "cores per client", but I agree with your rule of thumb.Quote:
Originally Posted by 'Boylston',index.php?page=Thread&postID=157149#pos t157149
I run 5 clients on 4 cores and the asymmetry just irks me. Not so much I'd quad box though.
WTB multi-box friendly CPU (Penta-core FTW).
Mark
Dalaran not because i´m still in bc shat yes but i avoid it like the bgs it´s not worth to get there.Quote:
Originally Posted by 'pengwynman',index.php?page=Thread&postID=157170#p ost157170
Every other city is ok.
LOL sorry for that but had to laugh at comments of people saying pushing it with a laptop. I have a dell xps m1350 with intel core duo t9300 @ 2.50 ghz 4gb of ram 32 bit operating system with a NVIDIA GeForceGo 7700 GPU with 512 MB RAM graphics card. I multi- box with 5 accounts on this computer and have np at all. I mean it maybe really killing the graphics card at points but i havent seen any real problem. My main screen sits at 34 fps and my alts are sitting at 25 fps and in major cities the worse they get is 18 on alts and around 24 on main. Manageable and not a problem to move around but hey i bet i could do better.
I haven't booted it since I bought it (No joke, the laptop cost $5250) but it ran in Shittrath just fine.Quote:
Originally Posted by 'pengwynman',index.php?page=Thread&postID=157170#p ost157170
And that's why ill always use a desktop for gamingQuote:
Originally Posted by 'Evilseed',index.php?page=Thread&postID=157188#pos t157188
Yea I don't use it either. It was a gift anyway. It is UBER powerful. Funny thing is, with a full battery charge which is a 12 cell extended battery, it only goes 32 minutes LOL. I have 3 batteries tho.Quote:
Originally Posted by 'Grimmace',index.php?page=Thread&postID=157191#pos t157191
Somebody buy it off me :p
Just as an FYI I was using a Dell laptop (e1705, or Inspiron 9400) with 1.8g dual core pentium M, 4 gigs of ram and an nvidia 7900gs card and I was 5 boxing fine. the biggest difference was symbolic linking of the directories.Quote:
Originally Posted by 'Owltoid',index.php?page=Thread&postID=157049#post 157049
i think you'd be fine but cities like shatt or dalaran (and probably PVP) would really lower the framerate.
instances and raids were fine (10man)
Update on my boomkins:
http://img68.imageshack.us/my.php?im...8224838sd0.jpg
http://img68.imageshack.us/my.php?im...8215144ns5.jpg
I created them on monday evening and i dinged them level 30 on wednesday night :>
-Totemic