Multiboxing Wiki - My 5 (Now 10!) Boxing WoW Writeup

if your time is worth $500,000 for the 6 months of game play... then $10 should be no big problem for you. of course, you are here begging for it to be free... so what does that say?

if my software solution saved anyone the expense of a single computer, the i've saved them thousands.

considering the time it would take you to drive to all the different stores to pick up the equipment, or find it on the net and have it shipped, then install it.. and then noodle with it until you get it working... total time spent, probably around 8-16+ hours or more depending on shipping. compare that to the <2 minutes with keyclone (assuming you have a credit card or paypal account)

on second thought, maybe i've made it too cheap

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Originally Posted by keyclone

if your time is worth $500,000 for the 6 months of game play... then $10 should be no big problem for you. of course, you are here begging for it to be free... so what does that say?

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Erh.. no I'm not.

As for the ½ million.. what can I say, I'm in the upper class of a country with significantly higher prices than the US - my sister and mother tend to take weekends in New York simply because the money saved on shopping pays both planetickets and hotel stay.
Really it's below the average of the area, seeing as I got a billionaire living around the corner. Helps pull it up a bit.

Admittedly setting it up does seem quite a bit easier than AHK, and adding Synergy and Broadcasting to that..
Well, I don't have any need for it as I haven't got a 3rd account, but if I find a good game in open beta I'll try it out.. should b possible to configure G15 to work with it with a few funny keybindings.

so let me see if I understand this.

With this system I would have 1 mouse and keyboard controlling all my computers and if I click on something with one character that would happen for all characters? So basically say I press 1 which on my hunter is "Hunters Mark" if on my warior its charge then the warior would charge?

All characters also would move forward at the same time, etc, etc. ?

thanks.

basically, yes. (you can see what happens in the video in my sig... i just clicked on the target with my main, hit the '/assist <leader>' key... which was broadcast to all clones... and they all selected the same target... then i hit '3'.. which broadcasts.. and is tied to 'fireball'.. which they all cast

if they were warriors and '3' was charge, they'd all run in and hit the target.

note: there is a bug with the mouse cloning (it's new).. don't bother using it yet. when the bugs are out, it would behave as you describe

also, i personally run synergy on all machines so i can mouse over and sign in the accounts. this allows me to avoid all the keyboards and mice. (synergy allows a virtual keyboard/mouse combo)

i also start up my keyclones on each machine, then add the clones... tie the keyclones together... and away i go ;)

Reasons Keyclone is worth 10$

1. 10$ is nothing, you could work at Mcdonalds and earn keyclone in less than 2 hours.

2. For someone like me those 2 hours are less then the amount of time it would take to figure out autohotkey.

3. It's a great program, works flawlessly and can be setup in under 5mins.

4. Free updates.

5. Keyclone very likely spent a lot of time programming it, Why is it wrong that he charges 10$ for it, I would gladly pay 20.

Just get over it, all you cheap bastards that are flaming him for letting someone know about his inexpensive solution to a problem they where likely going to spend a ton on need to go get a job.

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Originally Posted by brick

Reasons Keyclone is worth 10$

1. 10$ is nothing, you could work at Mcdonalds and earn keyclone in less than 2 hours.

2. For someone like me those 2 hours are less then the amount of time it would take to figure out autohotkey.

3. It's a great program, works flawlessly and can be setup in under 5mins.

4. Free updates.

5. Keyclone very likely spent a lot of time programming it, Why is it wrong that he charges 10$ for it, I would gladly pay 20.

Just get over it, all you cheap bastards that are flaming him for letting someone know about his inexpensive solution to a problem they where likely going to spend a ton on need to go get a job.

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Same reasons I happily bought 3 copies. If you're that broke you could wash some neighbours cars to pay for it ;)

If you ar ethat broke..... you probably should not be boxing....

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Originally Posted by Xzin

If you ar ethat broke..... you probably should not be boxing....

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True :)

Would a 4port kvm and a 2port kvm work for 5-boxing? And would two different brands have any meaning?

problem with kvm's is that they do not broadcast keys to all connected machines, they route keys to the currently selected one.

not that great for multi-boxing... but i could be wrong.

a keyboard splitter and mouse splitter might work, if you want to go the hardware route.

also consider looking into synergy, it might help

(whoa...being so restrained...)

Who is to say that port 1 could not be a broadcast to all keys though? That is what I do.

you use a kvm?

Nevermind my previous question, found a fairly cheap one. Wonder if it's as crap as it is cheap, though. What should I look for to determine that? I'd link the page, but it's in danish :P

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Originally Posted by Xzin

KEYBOARD
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INPUT - Vetra KM SWITCH (8 Port) VIP-708-KM
1 2 3 4 5 78 (Output Port 1-8)
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| | | | | | | |-----Port 8 (Unused)
| | | | | | |-----Port 7 (Unused)
| | | | | |----To PC X (Port 6)
| | | | |----To PC D (Port 5)
| | | |----To PC C (Port 4)
| | |----To PC B (Port 3)
| |-----To PC A (Port 2)
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Input---| Keyboard Multiplier (8 Port) 2 4 Ports Can Be Daisychained
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 (Output Port 1-8)
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A B C D X (Computer A-D,X (5x total Y-Mouse or USB to PS/2 input to add a second PS/2 port on CPU A-D,X)) Ports 7 and 8 Unused.

KVM Output 1 will send to all, Output 2 will send to only PC A, 3 to only B and 4 to only C, etc. Use Scrl Lock + 1-8 to nearly instantly select a PC. (I personally use an X-keys Stick for this). Multiple 8 Port VIP-708-KMs can be chained together. The 2 and 4 ports cannot. I believe the limit is 64 units, if you want to pay for that many.

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Planning was going good (comps, monitors, monitor stands ordered), but now I'm stuck on working out what control hardware I need to buy.

I quoted the diagram and the paragraph that seems to relate to it, but the rest of the text in that section of the Wiki is based upon a main or all 5 concept, right?

Am I interpreting the diagram correctly, that it's a setup for individual control of 5 PCs and broadcasting to all 5? I think it's indicating that port 1 of the KM/KVM goes to the input of the Multiplier and the next 5 ports go directly to the PCs. And then ports 1 to 5 of the Multiplier also go the PCs thus requiring 5 Y-mouse to connect both the KM and Multiplier to each PC.


Edit: Argh, turned emoticons off so as not to butcher Xzin's quote

Any ideas on quality cable tagging/labeling solutions?

I used a sharpie.

lol ... didn't quite expect that answer, Xzin. :)

Sometimes when you need to drive a nail, a hammer works just fine :)

buy 4 identical wireless keyboards
(cheap and easy)

A sharpie hahaha, i was also expecting some elaborate system =)

One could buy sheets of thinnish hard plastic, cut them to size and punch a hole in them then ziptie them on, THEN use a sharpie :)

I bought Belkin brand velcro...my cables are rainbow patterened cause the strips all come in different colors :(. Not cool.

I would have needed more colors. I did bundle with black velcro and corrugated tubing though.

Could you help me with AutoHot Keys as i am really having some problems - runnin 2 wow, 2 monitors on 1 PC.
Just need some1 2 post a step by step noob guide 4 me or something along them lines :o
Cos i run it Autohoykey, then all of suddent he guide is on about scripts an stuff

hi piggy,

sorry about the slow response.

unit187 put an extensive guide for AHK together here:
http://www.dual-boxing.com/forums2/viewtopic.php?t=807

if you are unsure of scripting and would rather just get up and running, there is keyclone here:
http://www.dual-boxing.com/forums2/viewtopic.php?t=883

keyclone is easier to set up and has a few tricks AHK doesn't have. on the other hand, keyclone has a one-time $10 price tag (all updates free).

i might be biased as i wrote it.. and continue to update it. my goal has been to get people up and multi-boxing in minimal time... reducing the hardware cost along the way. you should be able to find plenty of references to keyclone using 'search' here.

if you have any questions, just spend me a PM.

Does keyclone work with EQ2?

i have never used EQ2 but... i understand that keyclone does not work immediately with EQ2... i have been told that InnerSpace by LavishSoft is required.

again, this is what i have been told... i have not verified it (if anyone has verified this approach... please post your results)

as an FYI... InnerSpace is one of those applications that would most likely get you busted (whatever that means for the game you are playing)... i believe its due to the stealth keyboard injection they make possible... and the macroing/botting that results. any such behavior just gets us multi-boxers in trouble... so its best to stay away

just giving you a heads up

Heh heh, wow! Quick responce..

I got keyclone for when I was dual boxing in wow where it was great, but recently switched to EQ2 to try out legally selling characters and what not..

A shame it doesn't work there. =(

Thanks for the reply though!

I just started 5 boxing and i have read almost every post on this website but no where have i seen instruction on EXACTLY how to set your characters into perfect formation so that the vetra multicaster works effectively (where the characters stay together instead of splitting off) Can you please tell me exactly how this is done. I dont have programmable x keys so is there anyway with in-game macros or any other way that i can get in these fancy formations and keep my characters together well?

I understand that this can't be done... there will always be inconsistencies between your machines, the effect of which will magnify over time.

the way to do it is to have a "main" which the "clones" follow... there are various methods of switching mains on the fly but I think focus is the preferred method (a simple search on assist and focus should produce lots of results)

Hello everyone and thank you Xzin for such a great write up.
I read it many times to make sure I understood all the steps and decided to start my 5 box project myself.

I already sent an order for my next 4 computer, since I already have a brand new one only a few months old. I'm sure I'll have some questions as it comes up so I'll be posting again soon.

-D

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Well it wasn't long for the first question.
I was shopping for the Xkeys pad, I'll go with the Xkeys Pro one. Now I was wondering how this all connects with my keyboard. Do I need to buy a keyboard with a PS/2 slot on it? Or a USB one? I'm pretty confused on that part, could someone reexplain it to me please.

The PS/2 Xkeys comes with a passthrough. So you hook it up to your existing kb.

If my keyboard has a USB plug in, is it ok if I use the adaptor to make it PS/2? Or I really need a PS/2 only keyboard?

Well I ordered the same KB as Brad so I'd guess it's gonna be ok.

Awesome Xzin :D

I wonder why your not boxing all your mages to 70. It will cost a bit on the TBC disks, but then you can get merci gear ^^. You got any explanation i didnt readed somewhere on the forums? :P

for those of us who live in africa without paypal access,can you accept egold or wu or wire info

please respond keyclone

It'd be great if you could post this in the Beginner's Section! I'm new here, and have pretty much spent all my time there. This was a very very good guide and comprehensive overview that would have been great for me as one of my first reads!

added to the wiki.

I have 1PC w/ HotkeyNet. and 4 Accounts...Cost tons less and is very sufficient.

here is my Computer Specs:

Phenom triple core processor
4gigs of ram
3200 HD Video OnBoard.

1 Monitor, I dont need to see the other windows cause I can see them fine on my main.
Very easy setup and save tons of money!!

g man, gz!