Reports of SoE Services taken down

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Originally Posted by Kromtor

get a new credit card number from your bank if your'e worried. It will cost you nothing except some time on the phone. what more compensation do you think you deserve? they got your CC # - so does every waitress and cashier you've handed it to except the waitress/cashier actually has your 3 digit security code as well. the sky is not falling.

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So, it's completely okay that Sony let this happen and they should just be able to walk away from all of this scot-free? What if
PayPal treated bank accounts and credit cards the same way that Sony did? Would they be in more trouble? What if your bank
was following the same unsecure procedures that Sony had. Would it matter then?

I'm pretty sure that waitress isn't stealing CC#'s and selling them to the highest bidder. If you don't care maybe you should
just walk around with your credit card information on your shirt.

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Originally Posted by Kromtor

get a new credit card number from your bank if your'e worried. It will cost you nothing except some time on the phone. what more compensation do you think you deserve? they got your CC # - so does every waitress and cashier you've handed it to except the waitress/cashier actually has your 3 digit security code as well. the sky is not falling.

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The difference is that in Sony's case, all these stolen datas now are guaranteed to be in the hand of ill-intentioned people who aimed for the thief ...

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Originally Posted by Kromtor

get a new credit card number from your bank if your'e worried. It will cost you nothing except some time on the phone. what more compensation do you think you deserve? they got your CC # - so does every waitress and cashier you've handed it to except the waitress/cashier actually has your 3 digit security code as well. the sky is not falling.

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My time must be A LOT more valuable than your time. As someone who just went through the process of switching banks and getting all new credit cards it was a giant hassle and a good bit more than "some time on the phone"

I second what Daeri and Fenril have said above.

I tried to get to the EQ website to make some account changes and every address I try redirects to the SOE press releases. So I guess everything is frozen for the time being. I wonder if they wipe all the auto-pays on file and make everyone redo them?

lol like it helps after the fact that they wipe account pay info.

It means I don't have to login and wipe it myself. I am feeling real lazy about account management.

From my understanding, there were 2 seperate attacks. The one hitting the PSN secured systems, and then another hitting the SOE secured systems. The PSN attack did get credit cards from the PSN and Qriocity systems. However the SOE attack hit only user identity info and about ~22k credit/debit cards from Germany, Austria, Netherlands and Spain.

If you have a PS3 and never bought anything via it's store or Qriocity, your bank accounts should be ok from this perspective.

If you have a SOE account and are not in the above listed counties, your bank accounts should be ok from this perspective.

However, most everyone will have to worry about identity theft.

These stolen accounts have most likely already been sold to chinese gold farmers. I used an e-mail to sign up for the PSN
network a few months ago that I only use for 3 different things. I've had it for years and, believe it or not, I've never gotten
a spam mail. Just last week I received my first spam mail about my WoW accounts that don't exist on this particular e-mail.

In addition to that, my roommate, who owns the PS3, had used the same e-mail/password on his PSN account and his WoW
account and it was miraculously hacked last week. He was using the dial-in authenticator but now he's obviously moving to
a real one after this.

Coincidence?

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Originally Posted by sedory

From my understanding, there were 2 seperate attacks. The one hitting the PSN secured systems, and then another hitting the SOE secured systems. The PSN attack did get credit cards from the PSN and Qriocity systems. However the SOE attack hit only user identity info and about ~22k credit/debit cards from Germany, Austria, Netherlands and Spain.

If you have a PS3 and never bought anything via it's store or Qriocity, your bank accounts should be ok from this perspective.

If you have a SOE account and are not in the above listed counties, your bank accounts should be ok from this perspective.

However, most everyone will have to worry about identity theft.

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Believing Sony would be the ultimate display of naivety.

I had a Steam authentication request sent to my email that I use for PS3 - just like 2 days ago. I can't even figure out how to change my stupid steam password.