Making gold in cata

Example from what i just did:

Prices on gems are low, after a weekend of reposting and undercutting. There where 5 types of gems that were under 15g each, with 5-6 listed. It'd be dumb to undercut those. So I bought those out and reset them.
Even if you are not JC thats a good opportunity: sunday night is like the busiest day for gems, so monday morning there can be found quite some bargains on the AH.

Another thing you can pay attention to: scan AH half an hour before the reset, select auctions on duration, and make a bit on stuff that's going to expire in during the reset. Been able to get some sweet deals when i happen to be around.

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Originally Posted by zenga

Another thing you can pay attention to: scan AH half an hour before the reset, select auctions on duration, and make a bit on stuff that's going to expire in during the reset. Been able to get some sweet deals when i happen to be around.

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Auction houses have been changed to game time in late 2006? so that time wouldn't tick for auctions during maintenance.
Have they changed that back?
Or are you saying that people don't typically check as soon as the servers are up and you have a god chance to get the items.

It used to be a fun sport to try and be the last one to bid in those fateful seconds before the servers went down.

zub, don't know not been around that long. All I can say is that when I list an auction for 12h at 02h00 when there is weekly reset at 03h00-11h00 am, and I check back late afternoon, the auction expired. Whereas I should still be up according to your logic.

On top of that would 've been extremely lucky with the bids I place that none is overbidding me when the servers are back up, for months. So yeah I do believe it just keeps counting during downtime.

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Originally Posted by zenga

zub, don't know not been around that long. All I can say is that when I list an auction for 12h at 02h00 when there is weekly reset at 03h00-11h00 am, and I check back late afternoon, the auction expired. Whereas I should still be up according to your logic.

On top of that would 've been extremely lucky with the bids I place that none is overbidding me when the servers are back up, for months. So yeah I do believe it just keeps counting during downtime.

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I've ust read all the patch notes since the AH were added (patch 0.8) and also found this: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/to...7589384?page=1
Seems i must have dreamed it, i was sure they made that change long ago.
Sorry for the confusion.

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Originally Posted by Zub

Sorry for the confusion.

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thats why i'm rich and u are poor!

just kidding :P

How much of that is profit though? I did some checking on my server using the list of your sales, and its a pretty slim profit.

As an example, Dragonscale leg armor has a market price of 690 gold while the mats needed have market price of 600. Granted that is a 15% profit and in the real world it would be great but in WoW it seems alot of work.

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Originally Posted by JohnGabriel

How much of that is profit though? I did some checking on my server using the list of your sales, and its a pretty slim profit.

As an example, Dragonscale leg armor has a market price of 690 gold while the mats needed have market price of 600. Granted that is a 15% profit and in the real world it would be great but in WoW it seems alot of work.

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it depends really, at least for me. If I have a whole lot of gold not tied up into other things, I might spend some of it for mats depending on the price. Most of the mats I have come from characters, farming, or undercutters in the auction house or people who make mistakes pricing the mats and putting them in the AH (i love that :P).

Remember that each server's economy is different, so his list might not work for your server. But I would spend some gold to make some gold as long as I see at least 5+% profit.
I think it was mentioned. but if you get on WoW on weekends, check the AH for undercutted and/or wrong prices that are lower then usual then snatch them up and sell during the week :)

Some people like selling during weekdays at prime time for your server, I however like doing that and selling late night on the weekdays. That is when I really jack up the prices of, lets say glyphs, mats, or any other high in demand items. Also look for other markets to dip your feet in, do not stick to one thing like enchanting. If you have many different items that are from different professions or other high demand stuff like low/high level gear, you will bring in more gold per hour.

Another thing is if you are lazy and do not want to put in the effort to learn the AH, addons, and or your servers economy, you will not make the amount of gold you want. It takes awhile to get setup but once setup everything will just fall into place :)

I always look at it like this...

If you don't have a whole lot of gold, then farming your own stuff...
Whether that is herbs, ore, skin or cloth to sell...
Or whether it is mats for a combine...

It all makes you a decent amount of gold for your time, and is basically pure profit.

Once you have a bit of capital to work with.
And you want to mass produce something.
You're likely better off buying the mats and making it... for a smaller profit per piece.
But doing 35 transactions at a profit of 50g each...
Then you are in farming everything yourself, and making one transaction in the same amount of time that makes your 300g.

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Originally Posted by JohnGabriel

How much of that is profit though? I did some checking on my server using the list of your sales, and its a pretty slim profit.

As an example, Dragonscale leg armor has a market price of 690 gold while the mats needed have market price of 600. Granted that is a 15% profit and in the real world it would be great but in WoW it seems alot of work.

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That's the big question. I don't keep track of indvidual profit for each item, I just try to sell in large volumes. Blackened Dragonscale costs around 10g to me, so thats 200g in total, you need 50 savage leathers to get the pristine orb iirc. At 2g or less each, that means a total crafting cost of 300g. So basically everything above that is pure profit.

However about 'alot of work'.yeah that is true if you were to buy mats, do the whole crafting up savage leather, go to twilight highlands to swap hides for pristine orb, etc ... each time you gonna craft one.

1) But I have my mats buyer setup such that he buys out all savage leather under 2g, and all blackened dragonscale under 15g. That + many other mats. It's a push on the button, and then a few quick successive clicks to confirm buyout/bd.
2) Open mailbox, and my mats buyer auto mails the proper mats to my respective crafters. Takes a minute.
3) If I have these crafters open, TradeSkillMaster automatically tells me how many of the crafted items I still have in stock.
4) 1 push on the button and he converts all my savage leathers gathered over the course of 1-2 weeks into heavy, take portal to twilight highlands, buy pristine orbs, and craft the enchantments. Last time I crafted 40 of each. But meanwhile my other 4 toons are crafting stuff as well.
5) Done, open mailbox, and my addon automagically sends the crafted stuff to my seller.
6) Whevener I have my seller open, the stuff is just sitting in his bags, and they 'll be automatically listed on the AH, matching the rules I've set for buyout, fallback, min. treshhold, etc ..

Long story short: if you have to do this process each time for 1-2 of those enchants then it's poor time/gold ratio. If as a multiboxer you are able to craft enough stuff for a whole week, then the 2-3k I gain from this item alone (its more) then the 10 minutes are well spend. The more because my other toons do something similar meanwhile.

It's all about addons, knowing them and setting them up properly.

I still do 6 of the Argent Tournament daily quest - Every day that`s 101G and 9 Champion's Seals on every toon.
Everytime i have 40 Champion's Seals, I buy one of the Companion Pet and send it over to the other side. Sell for 3-4.5k Gold

and it only take me 15 min a groupe to do with us of the Argent Crusader's Tabard.