pvp and haters

Why care if you win or not?
I find the idea completely insane, after all you've invested in this form of advanced entertainment that you can play a game and have a bad time doing so..
I win around 50% of my battlegrounds but Im having fun in 100% of them.
The problem is not the whiners but your attitude, you are ruining your own fun. The reason why the problem is yourself is because that's the only thing you can change. You can't change everyone into approve if neither you or multiboxing in general.

Seriously, every damn second should be fun else its a complete waste of time and you will get more out of other things you enjoy more.

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Originally Posted by zenga

If you take up 5 spots in 10-15m BG , and you don't play excellent (i.e. better than 5 decent individual players could do), it's understandable that you will be blamed/hated for the loss.

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Originally Posted by valkry

Don't turn off BG chat, you will limit your communication with the rest of the team and unlikely be able to help with an agreed strat because you can't see what it is... in which case they would be right in insulting you.

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+1 to the above quotes.

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Originally Posted by Pycno

Why care if you win or not?
I find the idea completely insane, after all you've invested in this form of advanced entertainment that you can play a game and have a bad time doing so..
I win around 50% of my battlegrounds but Im having fun in 100% of them.
The problem is not the whiners but your attitude, you are ruining your own fun. The reason why the problem is yourself is because that's the only thing you can change. You can't change everyone into approve if neither you or multiboxing in general.

Seriously, every damn second should be fun else its a complete waste of time and you will get more out of other things you enjoy more.

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Well, everyone his/her own opinion, but i play a BG to win it mostly. That's what gives me the most fun, so if there would be some random boxer who thought he'd be pro by being as effective as the random HKfarmer, then that's not something I would like. I really don't see what you're trying to aim at though. You want us to change ourself so we don't care at all what happens and if you get offended or not and to "just have fun." ? All i can say, good for you you're having fun. But that's not gonna work for me. :D

I've found that hate is inversely proportional to the size of the BG. If I'm in AV or IoC, people love me. Wintergrast, pfft, I'm a hero there...since I can nearly global a tank.

When I made the mistake of going into AB (my favorite vanilla BG on my solo mage), the 'almost' loss was my fault. Go figure.

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Originally Posted by Siaea

I've found that hate is inversely proportional to the size of the BG. If I'm in AV or IoC, people love me. Wintergrast, pfft, I'm a hero there...since I can nearly global a tank.

When I made the mistake of going into AB (my favorite vanilla BG on my solo mage), the 'almost' loss was my fault. Go figure.

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That's very easy to explain. The smaller the Bg, the more boxing is a handicap. You're always 4-5 chars at the same spot. In smaller BG's that can indead be devastating. The others have to adept to it to be really effective. In AV, you're a much smaller portion of the whole raid. So the fact that you'll always have 4-5 chars is more a positive things because it makes you more effective, then that it's a handicap.

I cringe when the random tosses me into WG.

As an entry level 4 shammie team, I'm losing more than winning in WG and I feel bad about it.

That said, I've gotten literally 3 or 4 tells along the lines of "Reported" and a TON more folks who notice my team and are like "Cool".

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Originally Posted by Littleburst

Well, everyone his/her own opinion, but i play a BG to win it mostly. That's what gives me the most fun, so if there would be some random boxer who thought he'd be pro by being as effective as the random HKfarmer, then that's not something I would like. I really don't see what you're trying to aim at though. You want us to change ourself so we don't care at all what happens and if you get offended or not and to "just have fun." ? All i can say, good for you you're having fun. But that's not gonna work for me. :D

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There can be different opinions but some facts will always remain the same, like how games are supposed to be fun and the ultimate goal of playing a game is to kill time and have fun. If you played a game and did not find it relaxing or fun you completely wasted the time you spent and would be better off doing something you enjoyed more. If you disagree with this you are delussional - the only exception to this MIGHT be for professional gamers but one can argue that they should spend their time getting out of the gaming tournaments and do something else instead.


Im not saying its boring to win, Im saying losing is inevitable nomatter what you do - but you should be having fun regardless or log out and do something else long before it gets to you. The only thing you need to do in the game is to have fun, everything else is optional.
I do always try and help my team but I cant win alone, I need my team to be somewhat capable the same way they need me to be somewhat capable. If its a hopeless situation I dont do what most players seem to do: charge alone into a large crowd of enemies and die everytime then complain while waiting for ress, I find other fun things to do such as mindless honor kill farming. Ultimately I dont need to win a battleground as I tend to have honor cap all the time anyway (cba buying even more gems).

Paying money and spending your precious free time volunterily on an activity that can be unpleasant isnt the smartest way to spend ones free time. Its sort of like traveling to a country you hate and have a miserable vacation over and over again :p


Complaining/venting out anger onto other players will not change anything and it will only be a matter of time before you need to vent out even more frustration at other innocent players. The only thing you are able to change is your own perception, if you want to you can have fun all of the time in the game and never be frustrated or annoyed by anything. You can be in an AV and not care if you are playing with 1 or 39 retards, they cant influence you in any way unless you let them.

Ultimately I dont care if others are right or not, I only care that my own opinion is right. I usually disagree with most people and I think thats good because I really dont think too highly of most people, few people are really worth taking advice from and listening to :)


Check out my comment to some dude that bashed my old guild after he supposedly soloed 3 members in it alone. Im in general very friendly, patient and helpful but that changes when I encounter players such as the one quoted below. I dont get angry I just think its fun to see how fragile they are and how soon they lose their tempers. Im not perfect, I like bullying internet bullies :)

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bunch of *@%% players of which the only thing they "gank" is npcs, they kill more npcs each week than all the raiding guilds on the alliance side combined

http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/9514/abog.jpg

have fun with your 'world pvp'

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ABOG maybe the most fun guild I have had the pleasure of playing with making it as far as Im concerned one of the best guilds to be in.

Basically they have more fun and waste less time and this makes them superior to most other guilds around.

You having average ilvl of 274+, Shadowmourne, 7k+ achievement points and Grand Crusader title will probably just shrug at this.

Games are not about skill, they are about fun, anyone saying otherwise (except for MAYBE professional players) are delussional. You are among the last players I would listen to for gameplay advice, I wouldnt be surprised if you are planning to take time off from work to play Cataclysm when it is released.

You do deserve praise for killing three players alone, that requires skill and gear which I guess is your reward for being addicted to epics. This addiction can be fueled by lack of real and actual accomplishments, typically the lesser one feels in real life the stronger the urge to feel superior in games become.

IMHO - Who cares what anyone else thinks about you and your team? You pay your sub fee, go and have fun. I ignore pretty much everything people say and play for the objectives. If people want to fight off flags on the roads, try to take stables, solo run the flag, sit in the middle in EOTS, more power to them. I'll fight for the objectives and you can blame me for the loss all you want.

My standard response in bg chat now to whatever they say?

"You sound cute. Can we be friends?"

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Originally Posted by Alemi

My standard response in bg chat now to whatever they say?

"You sound cute. Can we be friends?"

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Just awesome :) Anyone fall for it?

I like that.

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Originally Posted by Pycno

Just awesome :) Anyone fall for it?

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Not yet, but I'm sure someone will. It basically just disarms them and denies them the drama they need. Usually the response is "fag" "pussy bitch" or something of the like.

"Your choice of words intrigues me. Where did you learn such masterful English skills?"

Generally, the ones who try to call me out the most are the most unproductive in the BG.

Oh, and if people call me bots? I spam /train on 4 female orcs and /moo on one male tauren. It's pretty damn obnoxious but amuses me to no end.